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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 17:59:58 GMT
I just went on this morning, and underneath the title is a red box with all these websites to anonymously write papers for academic purposes. I hope this is an ad, but I don't think so. I don't understand why someone like Wes would do something like that. Anyone else saw this? thoughts?
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Post by ML on Mar 18, 2018 3:58:31 GMT
Wes announced that he will delete the forum.
That was approximately 24 hrs before deletion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 5:26:36 GMT
I find it strange Wes appointed bomadics as moderator/administrator then closes the site a week later. might be for the best.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 12:00:33 GMT
I think the real "Wes" was gone over a year ago.
His site has had viruses off and on over many years. I have no clue how an attacker uses a virus but had two computers destroyed by them. I was attacked from his site a month ago and Norton blocked it. I told "Wes" about that in an email and it didn't happen again. Our email exchange was matter of fact, no personal conversation at all, no "Love, Wes" as he signs all of his correspondence.
Having been attacked by the government, once when the CIA did destroy a computer and another time when Norton blocked the exact same attack, I'm sure it's possible to attack a specific computer and not just stick a virus somewhere to infect whoever clicks on it.
Here's the general reply I received from "Wes" when I let him know about the attack: "Hi!
Yes, it is a global, international thing. Hackers are hacking into many alternative media websites. They can't be tracked at this time, and no one seems to be able to remedy it.Â
Thanks for you heads up, though..
Wes"
Was "Wes" attacking me? I don't know. Might he have had reason to after what I had said on a thread by Jim Chan about "the new Wes Penre" in which I voiced my suspicion that "Wes" wasn't Wes?
I don't think there is any way that the real Wes would have deleted that forum on such short notice. Facebook would delete this sort of forum but Wes would not.
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Post by IW on Mar 18, 2018 12:21:55 GMT
I agree johnbest. there was a lot of new people coming onboard the last month or so. The real Wes would have seen the need for the forum to continue.
The general problem of no moderator, seems fairly mild, and with bomadic readily taking over that job. IT seems extremely strange to shut it down (in less than a day).
Wes leaving to do personal work also felt a bit strange to me, as he spent so many years researching and helping others.. to just quit and disappear for months.
Anyhow I'm not sure if the site is recoverable, or what happened to Wes. How is anyone to know?
Unfortunately I was somewhat a new member and don't have a ton of history on the forum to know what was going on in the undercurrents.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 12:40:59 GMT
The forum always had trolls. I didn't read a lot of the posts so I didn't see much of the trouble. I saw that a troll named "Prime" had been banned recently, a vicious, persistent troll who was pretty well skilled at his lies. I couldn't get that weasel banned a year or so ago so I had to block him. He fooled some people. I was able to have Orionra banned not too long after the forum began, a prolific poster who also fooled some people into believing blatant lies.
I've been suspicious of "Wes" since I saw his "Soulution" section in his book about The Singularity. It just didn't fit, given the knowledge that I knew Wes possessed.
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Post by IW on Mar 18, 2018 12:52:57 GMT
Your welcome to be here johnbest, although this place is not meant to be a replacement of Wes' forum. I don't expect people to all be agreeing to everything and be all buddy buddy. That is impossible.
We all know there are paid government trolls, just have to take things as they come.
There are several people who care about this forum, and like truelight said, we are hoping the problems from Wes' forum don't start up here..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 13:00:31 GMT
Trolls typically do certain things like refusing to answer direct questions or purposely derailing threads. That's when I block them with no second thoughts.
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Post by merlin on Mar 18, 2018 13:53:08 GMT
I believe Wes is going through some serious problems in his personal life.
It's possible he's being attacked.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 23:52:45 GMT
I hope Wes is ok, it's really disappointing that his forum is gone.
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Post by ML on Mar 19, 2018 0:39:24 GMT
I share Johns's sentiment about Wes' writing's about the Nam'lu'u.
I was pretty excited at the time. That was after the 'bath tub' therapy Wes was undergoing.
That would have been an excellent read and very helpful in my estimate.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 13:06:10 GMT
My computer was attacked again yesterday when I clicked on a link on Wes's site.
Would any author who put this much time into research and writing take actions that would cause fewer people to see his work? Would any sane person bring almost 900 people together to talk about that work and then take that ability away from them?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 3:53:57 GMT
My computer was attacked again yesterday when I clicked on a link on Wes's site. Would any author who put this much time into research and writing take actions that would cause fewer people to see his work? Would any sane person bring almost 900 people together to talk about that work and then take that ability away from them? My mobile devices get hit. Desktop and laptop not so much. Get this ok and not first time it has happened. My phone took like 1000 photos of nothing while sitting atop of a dresser. same photo. took near an hour to get rid of them all.
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Post by ML on Mar 20, 2018 4:31:15 GMT
Wespenre.com Update March 19, 2018: My Forum, "The Wes Penre Discussion Board" was discontinued as of March 17. My Facebook was discontinued a few days earlier, as well. The real reason for this (despite some conspiracy theories and wild assumption that are circulaing on the Internet about my "untimely death" and that I was "taken over" by the ETs and/or the Intelligence Agencies), is that I want to get off social media. I am taking a new step on my personal journey, and being present on social media is no longer part of that journey. I am moving away from all that. wespenre.com/news.htm
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 5:00:07 GMT
It all gets just to weird
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 12:11:05 GMT
I don't care what "Wes" says now. "His" lame excuse that "he" wants to get off social media is not a valid reason to throw about 900 people off of a forum that they enjoyed. Nobody builds something like that and obliterates it, destroying a network of like-minded people. Is this how "Wes" would stop The Singularity, by making sure people who were fully aware of the consequences couldn't talk to each other?
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Post by girlscout on Mar 20, 2018 14:00:53 GMT
Flawed humans, which we all are, can make mistakes, change their minds, go off on tangents. It is what it is, to me.
Moving on.
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Post by duckie on Mar 20, 2018 16:52:58 GMT
Flawed humans, which we all are, can make mistakes, change their minds, go off on tangents. It is what it is, to me. Moving on. But, at the same time, once you become a public figure (which Wes certainly is), you have a responsibility to your community (the forum). Heck, as a human being, we have our responsibilities to our community. We don't just set up a village and then one day say "I'm done with this" and set fire to it. A person can leave the village. But burn it down, like removing the forum, what happens to the people who live there? That's not the Wes we knew. At least, not in my opinion.
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Mar 21, 2018 9:58:21 GMT
I actually dreamed about Wes a few days ago. Problem was that it was during a golf trip (yes Johnbest ) and I had a few glasses of wine than I usually do so I could not recall much. It almost felt like he was reaching out to me. On the other hand he has my email address so why not do it that way? I have asked HS if I need to journey to contact Wes and the answer came back affirmative. So I will do so in the next couple days and hopefully will be able to learn some more. I will share if I learn anything new. On a side note; I really think this forum is a move forward (upward?) from the WPP forum. It should not become a WPP forum II and from what I am seeing most of us are conscious of that and acting like it.
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