JVP right away talks about the REAL war in heaven where we fought and lost and became prisoners of war.
Then he brings up how Lucy and Satan faked a war in heaven, I believe because we would have memories of the war, he overlaid it with this fake war. This also created "GOD" and the "fallen angels", etc and all the religions that go with GOD and his "sheep" or cattle.
Here on page thirty ties in with what I felt with Kellsbells post in the other thread (you can bet as POW we were beaten, raped, and traumatized)
The truth is, good can never follow the ways of evil and come out a winner; they would always be compromised. If good decided to be evil for a short time just to become victorious, it would then become the very same evil.
Once good enters the world of evil it begins to imitate it. It is my contention, the children of the Father were simply conquered as causalities of war, and had no way to defend themselves, when the war came upon them.
There was no way to fight against these warlord conquerors without having the necessary tools of war, especially the mind of evil. They simply were conquered and then became prisoners, not only of body and mind, but of soul.
And here the manipulation began, the mixing of dna in their attempt to take away our power, for they wanted it for themselves.
I'm not sure they will ever understand they cannot have our power, it is absolutely impossible.
Lucifer created this realm of polarity where everything is the opposite. Everything is divided, separated, disconnected and detached. This same separation also occurred within himself. If he was going to be the god of both good and evil, he needed to separate himself to foster off this illusion. He needed to split in two, as if he was becoming twins of himself, but not equal twins, but polarity twins or opposites, like the polarity of a battery. He became both God and Devil, wherewith he was both good and evil or positive and negative. Just like the two trees that were offered, they are family trees, one of the Father and Mother and their children through Christ, and the other of the fallen angels and their children through deception. Lucifer was able to do this by using the 4th dimension, as the positive charge linked with the 3rd dimension, as the negative charge. He became spirit and matter linked together. Or another way to view this is; the projector and the projection!!!! => Lucifer and Satan are one and the same, but are separated as a polarity or as a duality god, one reigning in the 4th dimension in the invisible realm, called the heavens, and the other reigning in the 3rd dimension, called earth. Lucifer is the Female half of the spirit, and Satan is the Male half. They work together to keep the charge flowing between positive and negative and that is how this realm is being controlled, by the knowledge of the tree of positive and negative flowing energy! The 4th dimension is the holographic projector sending the projection into the 3rd dimension. The material matrix world is a projection or offshoot of the 4th dimension. The Great War in Heaven was about the 4th dimension being separated from the 3rd as two polarity halves. It was when the matrix of duality was created. It was then Lucifer went into a battle with his other half. Lucifer’s angels fought against Satan and his angels. Meaning the polarity gods went to war with each other. It stated that Michael and his angels fought against Satan and his angels.
The war in heaven was the separation of the twin powers of good and evil, god and devil. It is how Lucifer began his illusory matrix world of absolute control. It is the beginning of the upper gods and the lowers gods. It is when the separation occurred between the watchers and the demons. It is how the dimensions were separated between the 4th higher dimension and the 3rd lower dimension. It was the illusion of separation between the soul and the body. Therefore, Lucifer defeated his polarity twin Satan and sent him into the 3rd dimension to become the polarity charge between them both. Satan the god of the 3rd dimension and Lucifer the God of the 4th dimension, And Lucifer has the greater power and authority.
The reality of this war was all based in deception, the one’s cast down to this world would be those who are calling the shots and ruling the earthly kingdom, sitting in the government seats of power as well as royalty. The losers would be those who were bred to become slaves to this kingdom, to obey and follow orders and to become integrated into the mindset of the victors. It was imperative to make sure the prisoners did not know they were prisoners, allowing them to believe they were part of the victory team. This way the prisoners would follow the God who was victorious and would proclaim obedience to the victory team and damn the loser, never knowing they were being conned, and had become part of the illusory deception!
The Father (*) has nothing to do with this lower realm. He does not go to war; he is not involved in violence in any way, shape or form. It is not part of the fruits of the spirit to actuate strife, wrath, war and battle. Secondly, if the Father was involved, there would be no war of any kind, all he would have to do is speak it, and the results would be final
"We just assumed that the Father’s heaven is where Michael and his angels came from. It never dawned on us that Michael was a chief prince of Lucifer. It reveals the name Michael is, one who is like god. It doesn’t say he is like the Father, as is the Christ."
EDIT: "Who really was Michael? He was an angel of god, today we would call him an alien watcher who can take on human form, but he is not human. Michael or another higher commanding officer, was the angel that spoke to Moses at the burning bush. Michael was the proxy God of this world, as the chief prince. It stated, in the story of the Burning Bush that Moses spoke to the ‘angel of the Lord,’ because he was the proxy for Lucifer. Lucifer remains in the 4th dimension while sending proxies, or angels, which are messengers to this realm. Therefore, Michael was the proxy god as YHVH of the Old Testament who served as the chief prince of Lucifer (Ninurta), and Satan was in type, his brother (Enki)"
"I understand the fight and the process we all must maneuver through when we have been trained to believe in the opposite and have been educated by certain ideological concepts that are so deeply entrenched into the mind, it is nearly impossible to unlearn these doctrinal errors. Before you can accept reality and break away from the illusion, you must unlearn the error, and before you can unlearn the error, you already must be opened to the idea internally that something is very wrong with the basics of your belief. The Father will not force us to believe anything, he simply reveals keys as stepping stones in the spirit, when one can begin to start recognizing error, then we must take the bull by the horns and run with it. As we take this knowledge through the spirit, the Father will add more nuggets of truth, when we fail to accept the change, then we will not receive anything else until we cooperate. If these steps of change have not occurred in one’s life, then it is impossible for any real spiritual development, until one changes their thinking. If you are not there yet, then it is best you move along and continue with your ideas, until you are ready, or else truth can become poison! Each time I was presented with a change, the Father had to work that new mind in me, I wasn’t just handed a gift of knowledge on a silver platter, and then accepted it. That is not how the Father reveals things. I was led every step of the way, by clues that were integrated within my very psyche and spirit. I was challenged to the very core of my being, until it became a personal gnosis or knowing. As I continued to grasp the clues, more information was given to me deep within until it became undeniable that it was hardened fact."
I now realize that until months ago - although I read all his books - I wasn't ready for John's gnosis. These words truly describe my process and went as a shock through me ... I also realize that the Father/Mother (through John) advised me to read the books again and I'm grateful that I listened. Thank you John!!!!
"Today we have technology that is controlling the people in multiple ways. However, to believe human technology is needed to do this is based in ignorance of the power of the one who controls this planet and realm. Think about how easily the German army under Hitler were all of one goose-step mind to follow an agenda and there was little technology involved at that time, comparably. Go even further back to the inquisition, where no technology was involved, yet masses of people in general followed the lie and deception in one accord. And even going back to Christ and even long before Christ people were still being governed by this mass trance state and there was seemingly no human technology involved, during many of these periods. However, there has always been alien or fallen angel technology. People often are concerned about the technology that is being used to spy on everyone, some call it the ‘big eye in the sky.’ Also, it has been dubbed, ‘big brother is watching you.’ My friends, our lives are a general newspaper to the dark forces. Everything we do, think, and say is being recorded and used against us in the matrix book of remembrance, or the Akashic records. This is the real technology that has always been used against humanity. This is the real intrusion. All this other stuff is play toys for humans and many have aligned themselves with these dark forces to extrapolate even more information at a local level.
Yes! There are those who are in favor of the Singularity and there are those opposing it. But the very Singularity is just a tool to distract humans of what is really at play here.
"Lucifer is the God of this world, he rules this world, and he is the Governor, President, King, and Despot. He sends the signal to all his followers like the Queen of the BORG. Lucifer does not need our toy like human technology, Lucifer is the technology. He is the source and mind of this world. Lucifer is not divided among himself per se, although Lucifer plays the good and evil game, it is all being done in unison of one mind. Lucifer leads and governs all of those that follow, and he directs them to track exactly what he wants accomplished."
mironlang: It would be sweet if you guys can post and introduce yourself.... Thanks
May 12, 2021 15:55:37 GMT
blueelectricstorm: Hello from Devon UK! It seems none of your videos will upload to YouTube, I'm so curious, hoping you can re-post them to another platform xx
May 15, 2021 22:01:02 GMT
Hans Schokkenbroek: Hi Blueelectricstorm. not sure which videos you are referring to but many of the videos posted on this forum have been banned and deleted by YT over time. They do not seem to like it if the truth becomes known by the masses.
May 17, 2021 12:07:41 GMT
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Jun 1, 2021 10:17:31 GMT
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Jun 1, 2021 10:17:40 GMT
IW: How is Myka and Girlscout and Blossom lately? Hugs to you guys xxoox
Jun 9, 2021 4:00:54 GMT
girlscout: Aloha IW! I’m on vacation in Michigan - first annual cousins reunion, happening tomorrow. Brings to mind many happy happy childhood experiences! I’ll be back home and back to work next week. Lol.
Jun 11, 2021 13:11:04 GMT
wornout: girlscout, I do hope that you have a wonderful time with your relatives here in Michigan!
Jun 12, 2021 13:53:01 GMT
merlin: I recommend looking into veganism/vegetarianism, and the use of insects as food, this may be pushed on us, and become the norm in the future
Jun 12, 2021 16:10:23 GMT
merlin: Under the false premise of saving the ernviroment
Jun 12, 2021 16:11:21 GMT
IW: That sounds great girlscout. Be safe and have fun!
Jun 13, 2021 13:29:16 GMT
drcyd: I've been watching the growth of insect eating being pushed on us now for several years. Combine that with the meatless meat products being pushed now, it's very clear that the powers-that-be (archonic) are pushing a meatless future for us all.
Jun 13, 2021 14:32:41 GMT
drcyd: I agree that it is a sad and tragic thing to have to kill and eat other second order powers for our existence. Plants and insects are also second order powers, so there's no getting around it unless you only eat ripe fruit from the ground.
Jun 13, 2021 14:34:47 GMT
mironlang: There is an angle that some animals are created for food. either way it seems like an unperfect creation this world is.
Jun 21, 2021 2:36:23 GMT