Post by griffo on Jun 24, 2023 18:03:27 GMT
Not sure where to post this one
These days I see a lot of videos popping up coming out against Gnosticism as it being used to 'fuel the trans movement'.
Not the old cult itself, but the themes of it. Things such as the soul being a separate essence from the body, feminine and masculine being innate to it. As well as hating the material world and wanting escape.
Apparently the matrix was originally written with a transgender character. Though i'm thinking the movie was more inspired by gnosticism than anything.
This dualism of essence is what is being used. Now personally I don't think this is unique to gnosticism, as other spritualist movements have this idea too.
Some of these people who call it out are supporters of old school christianity which kind of makes you critical.
But others are not of course. I do think this dualism and separation (idea of spirit) is harmful though.
But also the idea of 'a personal truth' is one that is criticised. I think the idea is being a bit distorted here though, as gnosis is more akin to enlightenment or seeing something for yourself, than everyone having a completely relative truth. I do see this idea in postmodernism though based on relative truth, and feels over reality.
I don't think I've seen any transgender or trans any people declare themselves as gnostic though transhumanists maybe or Wiccans (so more Pagan if anything). But I can see the similarities and perhaps influences (as well as the harms of certain gnostic associated ideas), but they seem different. I think the conception of feminine and masculine is not quite as simply shown in Gnosticism as it is seen more of having a balance of them though I think there is some distinction drawn between man and woman. Though I think they are kind of stereotypes at the end of the day.
These days I see a lot of videos popping up coming out against Gnosticism as it being used to 'fuel the trans movement'.
Not the old cult itself, but the themes of it. Things such as the soul being a separate essence from the body, feminine and masculine being innate to it. As well as hating the material world and wanting escape.
Apparently the matrix was originally written with a transgender character. Though i'm thinking the movie was more inspired by gnosticism than anything.
This dualism of essence is what is being used. Now personally I don't think this is unique to gnosticism, as other spritualist movements have this idea too.
Some of these people who call it out are supporters of old school christianity which kind of makes you critical.
But others are not of course. I do think this dualism and separation (idea of spirit) is harmful though.
But also the idea of 'a personal truth' is one that is criticised. I think the idea is being a bit distorted here though, as gnosis is more akin to enlightenment or seeing something for yourself, than everyone having a completely relative truth. I do see this idea in postmodernism though based on relative truth, and feels over reality.
I don't think I've seen any transgender or trans any people declare themselves as gnostic though transhumanists maybe or Wiccans (so more Pagan if anything). But I can see the similarities and perhaps influences (as well as the harms of certain gnostic associated ideas), but they seem different. I think the conception of feminine and masculine is not quite as simply shown in Gnosticism as it is seen more of having a balance of them though I think there is some distinction drawn between man and woman. Though I think they are kind of stereotypes at the end of the day.