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Post by Stranger2 on Jun 26, 2020 16:42:33 GMT
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Post by Stranger2 on Jun 26, 2020 17:28:42 GMT
A takeaway for any of us who are seeking liberation from the Matrix is this. Everything happening on the planet on the large scale is orchestrated by the owners of this soul farm who are not humans. Therefore, the governments and the elite are only puppets in their hands and what they do is for two purposes: - Distract and confuse us, divert our energy into false purposes (reacting to events, making efforts to improve things on Earth etc) - Generate a lot of "loosh" from our emotional involvement in these events and harvest it for their benefit. They need the impression of goodness and improvements to keep us happy and involved, but they also need evil, suffering and destruction to feed on our negative energies, so they always try to keep the balance. The world have been living through peaceful times for quite a long time since the wars of 20th century and that did not give them much energy harvest. They are in need of more energy now so they have to orchestrate negative events like COVID, protests, economic problems, to harvest on our emotional response to them.
People who emotionally waste their energy reacting to the global events, as well as to private life events, only feed them and serve their purposes. Instead we should focus on preparing ourselves for liberation. Disillusionment in anything related to human world and dis-identification from our human bodies, minds and roles is the key part of this process. To get liberated from this Matrix we first need to get liberated from our human selves, because the attachment to our human identities is what keeps us attached to the Matrix (since our human identities are simply parts of the Martix, it's not who we really are). We also need to disconnect ourselves from all this garbage media, events and news that pollute our consciousness, generate the emotional loosh for the farm and distract us from liberation. Sabotaging and leaving this entire Matrix is the only way, there is nothing we can do from inside the Matrix to improve it since it is entirely controlled by the entes. Who these entes are, whether they are an alien race from whatever planet/star, or simply higher-dimensional beings, we don't know, but it is totally irrelevant, who cares?
The only religions known to me that talked about liberation from the Matrix are the original Buddha's teachings, traditional Advaita and Gnostics. Over time those traditions were either eradicated or corrupted into secular spiritual practices. Most of other religions and spiritual teachings were creations of entes to divert us into pursuing false spiritual goals. Similarly to traditional religions, the modern spirituality is by far set up and controlled by entes. The hallmark of modern spiritual teachings is that they may teach us to awaken, to increase our awareness, ascend, achieve enlightenment etc., but the purpose of all that is to continue to live on Earth within the Matrix more happily and fulfilling, keep us more content with the existence in the Matrix. Needless to say, none of those teachings will ever lead to real improvements on the large scale and eradication of suffering and evil on Earth, their whole purpose is to make us more compliant. None of them ever talk about leaving this Matrix, and if you try to argue with them about that, you will be immediately labeled an "escapist". This also includes teachings of Endal Beall, as well as many other modern non-duality teachers. Although their teachings contain a lot of important insights, they are mixed and wrapped around the message to convince us to stay in the Matrix. Wes Penre is among very few who actually talks about liberation from the "Patrix", however his teachings are controversial and unreliable suggesting a risky strategy of exiting through "holes in the net" that may very well be traps. The only safe strategy known to us is to withdraw from astral/ethereal dimensions entirely, discarding the astral/ethereal bodies together with the physical one at the moment of death, and stay on the highest spiritual level or in the Void where our Spirit will remain inaccessible and invisible to astral/ethereal entities, and, once we are on that level, either remain there or wait for the help of Liberators. However, entes may disguise themselves as Liberators too, so, we should not trust anyone there and should not enter any portals or constructs or step down to lower dimensions until we are absolutely certain that it is safe. Once we are in the Void on the highest spiritual dimensional level, we will also have access to the universal knowledge, so we should be able to enquire it and ask to receive all the knowledge we need including how to safely escape from this Matrix, avoid any other Matrix constructs and traps and proceed safely.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 3:47:59 GMT
A takeaway for any of us who are seeking liberation from the Matrix is this. Everything happening on the planet on the large scale is orchestrated by the owners of this soul farm who are not humans. Therefore, the governments and the elite are only puppets in their hands and what they do is for two purposes: - Distract and confuse us, divert our energy into false purposes (reacting to events, making efforts to improve things on Earth etc) - Generate a lot of "loosh" from our emotional involvement in these events and harvest it for their benefit. They need the impression of goodness and improvements to keep us happy and involved, but they also need evil, suffering and destruction to feed on our negative energies, so they always try to keep the balance. The world have been living through peaceful times for quite a long time since the wars of 20th century and that did not give them much energy harvest. They are in need of more energy now so they have to orchestrate negative events like COVID, protests, economic problems, to harvest on our emotional response to them. People who emotionally waste their energy reacting to the global events, as well as to private life events, only feed them and serve their purposes. Instead we should focus on preparing ourselves for liberation. Disillusionment in anything related to human world and dis-identification from our human bodies, minds and roles is the key part of this process. To get liberated from this Matrix we first need to get liberated from our human selves, because the attachment to our human identities is what keeps us attached to the Matrix (since our human identities are simply parts of the Martix, it's not who we really are). We also need to disconnect ourselves from all this garbage media, events and news that pollute our consciousness, generate the emotional loosh for the farm and distract us from liberation. Sabotaging and leaving this entire Matrix is the only way, there is nothing we can do from inside the Matrix to improve it since it is entirely controlled by the entes. Who these entes are, whether they are an alien race from whatever planet/star, or simply higher-dimensional beings, we don't know, but it is totally irrelevant, who cares? The only religions known to me that talked about liberation from the Matrix are the original Buddha's teachings, traditional Advaita and Gnostics. Over time those traditions were either eradicated or corrupted into secular spiritual practices. Most of other religions and spiritual teachings were creations of entes to divert us into pursuing false spiritual goals. Similarly to traditional religions, the modern spirituality is by far set up and controlled by entes. The hallmark of modern spiritual teachings is that they may teach us to awaken, to increase our awareness, ascend, achieve enlightenment etc., but the purpose of all that is to continue to live on Earth within the Matrix more happily and fulfilling, keep us more content with the existence in the Matrix. Needless to say, none of those teachings will ever lead to real improvements on the large scale and eradication of suffering and evil on Earth, their whole purpose is to make us more compliant. None of them ever talk about leaving this Matrix, and if you try to argue with them about that, you will be immediately labeled an "escapist". This also includes teachings of Endal Beall, as well as many other modern non-duality teachers. Although their teachings contain a lot of important insights, they are mixed and wrapped around the message to convince us to stay in the Matrix. Wes Penre is among very few who actually talks about liberation from the "Patrix", however his teachings are controversial and unreliable suggesting a risky strategy of exiting through "holes in the net" that may very well be traps. The only safe strategy known to us is to withdraw from astral/ethereal dimensions entirely, discarding the astral/ethereal bodies together with the physical one at the moment of death, and stay on the highest spiritual level or in the Void where our Spirit will remain inaccessible and invisible to astral/ethereal entities, and, once we are on that level, either remain there or wait for the help of Liberators. However, entes may disguise themselves as Liberators too, so, we should not trust anyone there and should not enter any portals or constructs or step down to lower dimensions until we are absolutely certain that it is safe. Once we are in the Void on the highest spiritual dimensional level, we will also have access to the universal knowledge, so we should be able to enquire it and ask to receive all the knowledge we need including how to safely escape from this Matrix, avoid any other Matrix constructs and traps and proceed safely. There are some good points here and thank you for the contribution. What I see in the claims made by the website featured here is just more escapism. Astral deception for a fantasy life after life on Earth. The programmed ego does not live on. It is a fantasy creature within itself.
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Post by Stranger2 on Jun 27, 2020 13:51:19 GMT
<<It is a fantasy creature within itself.>>
Everything in the entire multiverse is a fantasy of the universal consciousness. All worlds where we can possibly live are consciousness-constructed. But there are bad fantasies and good fantasies. The mastery of living as free consciousness is how to live in fantasies in a healthy, mature and sane way without getting deluded, deceived, corrupted, enslaved, addicted and so on. We as subjects of consciousness can create our own worlds or participate in other's creations, as long as we do it consciously and don't fall prey to predator beings (and there is plenty of them in the multiverse).
But to me you label "escapism" is a red flag. Breaking free from a concentration camp is not escapism, its regaining your right to freedom. Once free, you can live in other constructed worlds free of slavery and deception, or build your own one, you can help to free those who are still captured in the camp.
I was raised in a totalitarian regime and I know how people live and feel there. The vast majority of people, being heavily brainwashed, liked it and accepted it, they collaborated, supported and advocated for it, they had a lot of convincing arguments in favor of the regime. Those who opposed and tried to leave to another country were heavily ostracized, labeled traitors and put in jail, very few were able to escape. But those who left were actually much more helpful in confronting the regime compared to those who stayed inside. Those who opposed from inside were simply jailed and helpless. Those who left helped to organize the opposition, worked with authorities of other countries, organized information resources (radio stations) to inform people inside about the truth and facts about the regime, which eventually lead to the fall of the regime.
What good can we do if we stay inside the Matrix for another incarnation? We will be wiped out of memories and become zombies again loosing all our knowledge that we found out about the Matrix deception. But if we escape, we can join the army of liberators, we can help other people to break free from the Matrix, we can fight with entes and destroy the Martix if there will be plenty of us. We have been slaves for millennia, it is time to end this abuse and claim our freedom. All dictatorships eventually come to an end, but only when the slaves start awakening and reclaiming their right to freedom.
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Post by girlscout on Jun 27, 2020 16:41:29 GMT
A takeaway for any of us who are seeking liberation from the Matrix is this. Everything happening on the planet on the large scale is orchestrated by the owners of this soul farm who are not humans. Therefore, the governments and the elite are only puppets in their hands and what they do is for two purposes: - Distract and confuse us, divert our energy into false purposes (reacting to events, making efforts to improve things on Earth etc) - Generate a lot of "loosh" from our emotional involvement in these events and harvest it for their benefit. They need the impression of goodness and improvements to keep us happy and involved, but they also need evil, suffering and destruction to feed on our negative energies, so they always try to keep the balance. The world have been living through peaceful times for quite a long time since the wars of 20th century and that did not give them much energy harvest. They are in need of more energy now so they have to orchestrate negative events like COVID, protests, economic problems, to harvest on our emotional response to them. People who emotionally waste their energy reacting to the global events, as well as to private life events, only feed them and serve their purposes. Instead we should focus on preparing ourselves for liberation. Disillusionment in anything related to human world and dis-identification from our human bodies, minds and roles is the key part of this process. To get liberated from this Matrix we first need to get liberated from our human selves, because the attachment to our human identities is what keeps us attached to the Matrix (since our human identities are simply parts of the Martix, it's not who we really are). We also need to disconnect ourselves from all this garbage media, events and news that pollute our consciousness, generate the emotional loosh for the farm and distract us from liberation. Sabotaging and leaving this entire Matrix is the only way, there is nothing we can do from inside the Matrix to improve it since it is entirely controlled by the entes. Who these entes are, whether they are an alien race from whatever planet/star, or simply higher-dimensional beings, we don't know, but it is totally irrelevant, who cares? The only religions known to me that talked about liberation from the Matrix are the original Buddha's teachings, traditional Advaita and Gnostics. Over time those traditions were either eradicated or corrupted into secular spiritual practices. Most of other religions and spiritual teachings were creations of entes to divert us into pursuing false spiritual goals. Similarly to traditional religions, the modern spirituality is by far set up and controlled by entes. The hallmark of modern spiritual teachings is that they may teach us to awaken, to increase our awareness, ascend, achieve enlightenment etc., but the purpose of all that is to continue to live on Earth within the Matrix more happily and fulfilling, keep us more content with the existence in the Matrix. Needless to say, none of those teachings will ever lead to real improvements on the large scale and eradication of suffering and evil on Earth, their whole purpose is to make us more compliant. None of them ever talk about leaving this Matrix, and if you try to argue with them about that, you will be immediately labeled an "escapist". This also includes teachings of Endal Beall, as well as many other modern non-duality teachers. Although their teachings contain a lot of important insights, they are mixed and wrapped around the message to convince us to stay in the Matrix. Wes Penre is among very few who actually talks about liberation from the "Patrix", however his teachings are controversial and unreliable suggesting a risky strategy of exiting through "holes in the net" that may very well be traps. The only safe strategy known to us is to withdraw from astral/ethereal dimensions entirely, discarding the astral/ethereal bodies together with the physical one at the moment of death, and stay on the highest spiritual level or in the Void where our Spirit will remain inaccessible and invisible to astral/ethereal entities, and, once we are on that level, either remain there or wait for the help of Liberators. However, entes may disguise themselves as Liberators too, so, we should not trust anyone there and should not enter any portals or constructs or step down to lower dimensions until we are absolutely certain that it is safe. Once we are in the Void on the highest spiritual dimensional level, we will also have access to the universal knowledge, so we should be able to enquire it and ask to receive all the knowledge we need including how to safely escape from this Matrix, avoid any other Matrix constructs and traps and proceed safely. An alternate POV could be that we are in a “learning institute”. Our challenge is to overcome . We are here to model that overcoming. There IS a graduation once accomplished. There is the “breaking away of the matrix”. The reason why HISTORY never changes, in my view? There are different souls (or whatever you want to call the spark) going through the lessons! Those that now “know better” have already moved on!
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Post by Stranger2 on Jun 27, 2020 17:43:34 GMT
<<An alternate POV could be that we are in a “learning institute”.>>
Right, it could be that way too. However, this reality setup that we find ourselves in includes: - genetically inherited deluded dualistic perception of reality - genetically inherited deluded sense of separate self and egoic mind structures with animal-level survival mechanisms - our memories and learned lessons and knowledge are erased at the start of each incarnation - we have no access to information about the true reality - NDE accounts and reincarnation studies suggest that we typically go through tens and hundreds of incarnations, and Buddha said that we were reincarnating "from time immemorial"
We are forced by genetics and culture to have wrong perception and beliefs about reality, to have egoic cognitive and behavioral patterns and very few are able to transcend them. This Matrix is designed in a way to present itself as the only reality to us, to delude us and to hide the truth as much as possible. This suggests that there is something not right here. If this would be indeed a learning institute, then the way it is set up seems to be a terribly inefficient and counterproductive way to learn. But instead, it seems to be perfectly and cleverly designed system to keep us entrapped under control, deluded, with minds twisted by egotism and dualistic perception, with memories erased, with little development from life to life.
But in any case, the prerequisites to graduate (if it is learning institute) or escape (if it is a soul recycling camp) are about the same - spiritual maturity, responsibility, awareness, awakening to true nature of reality and our own self, compassion, transcending the egoic mind etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 19:34:08 GMT
The only thing that is at stake is our energy being hijacked to the purposes of the "matrix" or whatever you want to call it. This matrix is just our perception being focused on illusions and false narratives and as a consequence we just give away our energies to that matrix. Once people start understanding that, they are capable of taking personal responsibility, leave that victim state behind them and cultivate their own energies.
We don't have to escape this earth, earth has nothing to do with what is going on. Escaping this reality is to me the same as victim mentality. We (as human beings) were created here and we belong as humans to this earth. We only need to transcend the mind virus that is attached to our ego's and become responsible human beings that cultivate their own reality, in cooperation with others. More and more people are awakening to what is happening, not enough of course because they are not yet seeing the bigger picture. This doesn't mean that things will change quickly, it might takes generations before true change will happen, but it is possible. That is how I see it anyway.
One of the universal laws is about allowance and another one about balance and harmony. The 'powers to be' know very well how to create, using their strong intention and focus. But their purposes are against the natural course of creation. The universal law of allowance means that you allow things to happen, by just subtly focusing on your purpose. Their purposes are so disharmonious, that they go against the law of balance and harmony, meaning that their tyranny cannot last forever and we are seeing now already how their reality is slowly losing force. Just imagine how more and more people start focusing on an entirely different reality ...
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Post by Stranger2 on Jun 27, 2020 20:28:07 GMT
Blossom, I disagree.
We are not humans and we do not belong to the Earth. We are subjects of universal Consciousness. We do incarnate on Earth and "become" to feel and look like humans, but these are just temporary roles that we take. Still, there is nothing wrong with incarnating into different races as long as there is no deception and exploitation involved.
Ego is not a "virus", but a genetically inherited structure of our human minds. To eradicate the ego the human DNA has to be radically restructured. This can not be changed by "focusing", it's a wishful thinking fantasy. This fiction was created by Endall Beall to convince us to stay within the Matrix. In principle the Earth reality and human nature can be fixed and life can be radically changed for better. However, there is nothing we can do inside the Matrix to make it happen, as it requires the restructuring of human DNA that is controlled by entes and can only be accomplished once the entes control is removed. Therefore, it makes no sense to remain captured inside this reincarnation farm, we are helpless while we are captured. The only way we can make real changes is to escape it and do the work from outside: help to liberate more souls, join the forces to fight entes, remove them from power and dismantle their control system. Only then we can start working on fixing the human DNA and creating new life on Earth. Endall says that this has been done already, that soul capturing system was removed 10 yrs ago, that the Matrix code is being rewritten. That is however, not true. NDEers are still reporting soul capturing and recycling, we do not see any changes in new born humans - they are as egoic as old humans, their memories are still erased. The entes will do anything within their power to deceive us and to feed us with all sorts of lies to keep us entrapped inside the Matrix. Of course they use us humans to do this work by channeling and implanting into us false ideas.
It is very similar to changing social/political systems on Earth. The dictatorships and totalitarian regimes do happen. Once they happen, they become very self-defensive and self-protective, they develop sophisticated systems to control and brainwash the population, to present false information to people. No positive changes can be done until the regime and the people in control are totally removed from power and replaced with a new democratic and open social system and government. Only after that is accomplished, positive changes can start happening. But the difference with Matrix is: while human dictatorships can be overthrown by revolutions from inside the societies, the Matrix control system is beyond our human reach, as they exist on other dimensional planes, and can not be overthrown by humans. Therefore any attempts to change the Matrix from inside are totally futile.
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Post by ML on Jun 28, 2020 22:11:24 GMT
Blossom, I disagree. We are not humans and we do not belong to the Earth. We are subjects of universal Consciousness. We do incarnate on Earth and "become" to feel and look like humans, but these are just temporary roles that we take. Still, there is nothing wrong with incarnating into different races as long as there is no deception and exploitation involved. Ego is not a "virus", but a genetically inherited structure of our human minds. To eradicate the ego the human DNA has to be radically restructured. This can not be changed by "focusing", it's a wishful thinking fantasy. This fiction was created by Endall Beall to convince us to stay within the Matrix. In principle the Earth reality and human nature can be fixed and life can be radically changed for better. However, there is nothing we can do inside the Matrix to make it happen, as it requires the restructuring of human DNA that is controlled by entes and can only be accomplished once the entes control is removed. Therefore, it makes no sense to remain captured inside this reincarnation farm, we are helpless while we are captured. The only way we can make real changes is to escape it and do the work from outside: help to liberate more souls, join the forces to fight entes, remove them from power and dismantle their control system. Only then we can start working on fixing the human DNA and creating new life on Earth. Endall says that this has been done already, that soul capturing system was removed 10 yrs ago, that the Matrix code is being rewritten. That is however, not true. NDEers are still reporting soul capturing and recycling, we do not see any changes in new born humans - they are as egoic as old humans, their memories are still erased. The entes will do anything within their power to deceive us and to feed us with all sorts of lies to keep us entrapped inside the Matrix. Of course they use us humans to do this work by channeling and implanting into us false ideas. It is very similar to changing social/political systems on Earth. The dictatorships and totalitarian regimes do happen. Once they happen, they become very self-defensive and self-protective, they develop sophisticated systems to control and brainwash the population, to present false information to people. No positive changes can be done until the regime and the people in control are totally removed from power and replaced with a new democratic and open social system and government. Only after that is accomplished, positive changes can start happening. But the difference with Matrix is: while human dictatorships can be overthrown by revolutions from inside the societies, the Matrix control system is beyond our human reach, as they exist on other dimensional planes, and can not be overthrown by humans. Therefore any attempts to change the Matrix from inside are totally futile. I don't know who this is (Juan Calcerrada ) nor have I read much of End all Be all, so I apologize for that. The 'we are not humans' comment caught my attention so I would like to comment on that. I agree Stranger that we are not. 'We' are wearing the human suit, most of us recognize this and so this is where the search begins- since we have no memory.
However, there is nothing we can do inside the Matrix to make it happen. (eradicating the ego) I am not sure why you believe this, true this is a very difficult task, and it feels like you are taking on the human suit as WHO you completely are in this view, though you stated that this is not us. The only real limitations on us are those by us, any other stance is of one that cannot see and therefore cannot do. I might take a liberty here in saying that ego is emotions-go. A reactionary non thinking way of existing that is not CONSCIOUS related. If we are part of Universal Consciousness than I would certainly hope that we are able at least in theory to act in ways that reflect that (some more so). The world/others do not make any of this easy and I get why it feels impossible due to the flesh we inhabit.
I can't really comment much on NDEers and what they see, unfortunately they could be seeing what is or isn't true, tough to know about the babies and recycling. No doubt though that some souls might be excited by the machine age and looking forward to the machine/human merge.
Matrix control system is beyond our human reach, as they exist on other dimensional planes, and can not be overthrown by humans. We are not humans and once we truly understand this-that we exist on all dimensions and planes, we will stop waiting for a "rescue" and start being what we are (which is unlimited potential).
The belief of we cannot we cannot we cannot, means that someone will help us yes to return here and so they save us, but only for themselves. We have the power to change our DNA, we have the power to see beyond the human limitations, beyond the program of assimilation. There are no teachers though, we must find it within ourselves. That is the only way, and that is why it is the narrow way, no one else fits on it.
Take care Stranger.
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Post by Stranger2 on Jun 29, 2020 1:11:50 GMT
<<We are not humans and once we truly understand this-that we exist on all dimensions and planes, we will stop waiting for a "rescue" and start being what we are (which is unlimited potential).>>
ML, if we are unlimited potential, why can't you walk through walls, fly, heal yourself from deceases just by wishing? Obviously in human conditions we are deprived from that unlimited potential. And always will be deprived until we stay in or return to the human form in the way it is currently designed. Can it be re-designed to allow us to unleash our potential as Universal Consciousness? Possibly, but we haven't seen any of it yet.
Regaining our freedom and unlimited potential is exactly what I'm talking about. It has nothing to do with victim mode. We were simply trapped by a totalitarian system and simply need to break free from it. Remaining slaves to it deprived of freedom and unlimited potential is the victim mode.
To add a disclaimer: I do not claim that what I and Juan Calcerrada are saying is the truth, of course it is only a hypothesis. To me it still seems quite likely. If it is not true then we are fine, but we still need to work on our consciousness, so if we still proceed on the path to liberation we will gain the awakening from our dream of human life and it will help us anyway.
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