Real abused victims - stay away from Wes Penre & Ariel Glad
Sept 9, 2018 16:49:19 GMT
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Post by hyoni on Sept 9, 2018 16:49:19 GMT
I posted two messages on the Wes Penre youtube channel, one on the Discussion page another on the video comment box, but they were censored by Wes Penre or by his wife.
Wes Penre's way of packaging his Post-Scientology space opera, chopped-and-screwed scientific theories and philosophies with his own twist on the narcissistic subject is HARMFUL to any real abused victim, it would only creates more harm than good, I've seen one, and she was my colleague and friend. When a woman been abused she will experience intense low self-esteem and self-hatred, imagine someone at that time feed her beliefs of some galatic overlords and try to boost her self-esteem by telling her God is a girl and man are basically evil while in the process of healing her trauma. What if she is lost enough to believe anything? What you think it's going to happen? What's going to happen when a random male telling a troubled woman that she's special and she's like a goddess?
I did not watch or read every single thing Wes Pebre published other than the few youtube links my friend sent me on KaKaoTalk and the only interview on his website, but I believe my conclusion will be the same even if I read all of them: A library of insanity and bad advice. I know that asking Wes Penre to stop touching the narcissism subject is too much for him, people like him is always unable to stop his urge to "share", so my only request is for Wes Penre to post a clear disclaimer on any of his video that related to abuses to keep them away from actual victims. Everyone has their own right to religion and fantasy, but a drowning heart will almost jump on any ship, it will be better if the ship is a professionist's ship with a decent peer-review system and open-sourced. A Scientologist's ship is never a good idea.
here are the messages I sent:
>message 1 (on discussion page)
"If you've been abused in any way, shape, or form, and are here seeking for help or inspiration, go away now, for the sake of your own mental well-being. I also advice Wes Penre and his followers to leave their escapist rabbit holes and breath with reality again.
There's one thing talking about healing from abuses or discussing conspiracies that could be happening - like how your boyfriend is secretly contacting his ex, or two political figures from two different camp having a secret handover deal, or even illegal sexual activities... but it's a whole different thing talking about alien invaders capturing your souls and spaceship star-war happening on "Orion Empire".
WHAT!
These videos would be funny if it wasn't a further danger to anyone who is truly feeling lost, truly looking for a recovery from their past abuses and in need of help and experienced advice, but based on most of the comments on various video, this isn't funny anymore. I've been in the music industry and witnessed "a few" abuses, metoo-like, both mentally and physically. For some people, especially women, these kind of abuses are powerful enough to change their core beliefs overnight, because those are their most valuable moments, and if you feed them DMT or with this kind of Post-Scientology bullcrap in the name of helping them at those valuable moments, the most merciful act you can do is keep your fantasy and escaping drug to yourself and leave them alone.
Wes Penre is still unable to realize the ridiculous nature of L. Ron, subconsciously carrying his signature everywhere.
The term AIF(Alien Invader Force) is a Scientology OT3 term, so is the idea of a galactic spaceman enslaving human, capturing them and brainwashing their souls in space stations with motion pictures. L. Ron was a true inspiration to many loon metaphysical writers in the west, all of his twisted imagination is still alive and well today, but there is nothing solid in Scientology just like there's nothing solid in Satanism, they are merely religions made by men with mommy-issues. It's just a human thing, just another cult doing cult things, being complexly naive and seriously ridiculous. The "Auditing" of Scientology that makes you feel good is just a modern version of Catholic's confession room (father I have sin), with a homemade lie-detector as an addon.
Like the annoying worldwide Targeted Individuals/Gang Stalking schizophrenia community, you and many "Truther" movements are enabling each other's twisted beliefs, and sometimes, their self-denied mental illnesses.
You did nothing to change the world or to make your society a better and a more open-sourced place, you did nothing progressive, not even bringing happiness in its most simplistic form, but you imagine that you did, you imagine you saved lives. No, you're an escapist, you only feed yourself and your followers' delusion with more stories and more fantasies, harming them unknowingly.
Did your stories and philosophies ever even worked? Did the temporary comfort you gave them and yourself lasted for long? No, because they are just like any other story or philosophy, always hollow. Your followers will just keep asking for more, you will keep making up more twists and finding more "synchronicities" for your failing belief, there is only numbing and no healing, there is no "enlightenment" in your path or in any woo-level Truther camp, it just keeps going on and on forever in circle without any conclusion.
You are fighting an enemy that you made up in your head, all you do is digging deeper and deeper into your own rabbit holes, refusing to aware that the biggest conspiracy is that no one is in control and everyone is trying to project power and pretending having things under control for the illusion of safety. Cult works because people put their trust into the cult-leader that claimed to be in control of things, and when the followers are controlled by the leader, they too have the same blissful moment of sharing the same control, the same safeness.
It seems your AIF belief gives you comfort and safety because it's a blindfold that protects you from your own shame and guilt of not being someone you actually accepted or even someone that's likable, which is totally not true. You don't have to be better, you just have to stop trying to be better."
> message 2 (on one of his video)
"You censored my post to you and to those average viewers, but I still wanted to remind you that next time, when you make another video related to narcissistic or any kind of abuses, please put on a bright-red disclaimer up front saying that you guys are not trained in this field and they should seek professional support elsewhere, because your videos are only for advanced Thetans and they might harm the viewers if they're not advanced enough.
Whatever your true agenda is, remember, it's not nice to try to "help" a mentally or physically abused person with gender love-bombing, doublespeak philosophies and delusive stories."
Wes Penre's way of packaging his Post-Scientology space opera, chopped-and-screwed scientific theories and philosophies with his own twist on the narcissistic subject is HARMFUL to any real abused victim, it would only creates more harm than good, I've seen one, and she was my colleague and friend. When a woman been abused she will experience intense low self-esteem and self-hatred, imagine someone at that time feed her beliefs of some galatic overlords and try to boost her self-esteem by telling her God is a girl and man are basically evil while in the process of healing her trauma. What if she is lost enough to believe anything? What you think it's going to happen? What's going to happen when a random male telling a troubled woman that she's special and she's like a goddess?
I did not watch or read every single thing Wes Pebre published other than the few youtube links my friend sent me on KaKaoTalk and the only interview on his website, but I believe my conclusion will be the same even if I read all of them: A library of insanity and bad advice. I know that asking Wes Penre to stop touching the narcissism subject is too much for him, people like him is always unable to stop his urge to "share", so my only request is for Wes Penre to post a clear disclaimer on any of his video that related to abuses to keep them away from actual victims. Everyone has their own right to religion and fantasy, but a drowning heart will almost jump on any ship, it will be better if the ship is a professionist's ship with a decent peer-review system and open-sourced. A Scientologist's ship is never a good idea.
here are the messages I sent:
>message 1 (on discussion page)
"If you've been abused in any way, shape, or form, and are here seeking for help or inspiration, go away now, for the sake of your own mental well-being. I also advice Wes Penre and his followers to leave their escapist rabbit holes and breath with reality again.
There's one thing talking about healing from abuses or discussing conspiracies that could be happening - like how your boyfriend is secretly contacting his ex, or two political figures from two different camp having a secret handover deal, or even illegal sexual activities... but it's a whole different thing talking about alien invaders capturing your souls and spaceship star-war happening on "Orion Empire".
WHAT!
These videos would be funny if it wasn't a further danger to anyone who is truly feeling lost, truly looking for a recovery from their past abuses and in need of help and experienced advice, but based on most of the comments on various video, this isn't funny anymore. I've been in the music industry and witnessed "a few" abuses, metoo-like, both mentally and physically. For some people, especially women, these kind of abuses are powerful enough to change their core beliefs overnight, because those are their most valuable moments, and if you feed them DMT or with this kind of Post-Scientology bullcrap in the name of helping them at those valuable moments, the most merciful act you can do is keep your fantasy and escaping drug to yourself and leave them alone.
Wes Penre is still unable to realize the ridiculous nature of L. Ron, subconsciously carrying his signature everywhere.
The term AIF(Alien Invader Force) is a Scientology OT3 term, so is the idea of a galactic spaceman enslaving human, capturing them and brainwashing their souls in space stations with motion pictures. L. Ron was a true inspiration to many loon metaphysical writers in the west, all of his twisted imagination is still alive and well today, but there is nothing solid in Scientology just like there's nothing solid in Satanism, they are merely religions made by men with mommy-issues. It's just a human thing, just another cult doing cult things, being complexly naive and seriously ridiculous. The "Auditing" of Scientology that makes you feel good is just a modern version of Catholic's confession room (father I have sin), with a homemade lie-detector as an addon.
Like the annoying worldwide Targeted Individuals/Gang Stalking schizophrenia community, you and many "Truther" movements are enabling each other's twisted beliefs, and sometimes, their self-denied mental illnesses.
You did nothing to change the world or to make your society a better and a more open-sourced place, you did nothing progressive, not even bringing happiness in its most simplistic form, but you imagine that you did, you imagine you saved lives. No, you're an escapist, you only feed yourself and your followers' delusion with more stories and more fantasies, harming them unknowingly.
Did your stories and philosophies ever even worked? Did the temporary comfort you gave them and yourself lasted for long? No, because they are just like any other story or philosophy, always hollow. Your followers will just keep asking for more, you will keep making up more twists and finding more "synchronicities" for your failing belief, there is only numbing and no healing, there is no "enlightenment" in your path or in any woo-level Truther camp, it just keeps going on and on forever in circle without any conclusion.
You are fighting an enemy that you made up in your head, all you do is digging deeper and deeper into your own rabbit holes, refusing to aware that the biggest conspiracy is that no one is in control and everyone is trying to project power and pretending having things under control for the illusion of safety. Cult works because people put their trust into the cult-leader that claimed to be in control of things, and when the followers are controlled by the leader, they too have the same blissful moment of sharing the same control, the same safeness.
It seems your AIF belief gives you comfort and safety because it's a blindfold that protects you from your own shame and guilt of not being someone you actually accepted or even someone that's likable, which is totally not true. You don't have to be better, you just have to stop trying to be better."
> message 2 (on one of his video)
"You censored my post to you and to those average viewers, but I still wanted to remind you that next time, when you make another video related to narcissistic or any kind of abuses, please put on a bright-red disclaimer up front saying that you guys are not trained in this field and they should seek professional support elsewhere, because your videos are only for advanced Thetans and they might harm the viewers if they're not advanced enough.
Whatever your true agenda is, remember, it's not nice to try to "help" a mentally or physically abused person with gender love-bombing, doublespeak philosophies and delusive stories."