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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Aug 27, 2018 9:15:00 GMT
It is amazing to me how I can now read these texts with eyes to see. I am sure this would have meant nothing to me a few months ago....
“On the day when you were one, you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?”
Meyer, Marvin W.; Robinson, James M.. The Nag Hammadi Scriptures: The Revised and Updated Translation of Sacred Gnostic Texts Complete in One Volume (p. 141). HarperCollins. Kindle Edition.
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Aug 27, 2018 9:27:55 GMT
He is talking about the Family here.... Again and again the message that we are all safe in the hands of our Parents....
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Jesus said, “Blessed is one who came into being before coming into being.
Meyer, Marvin W.; Robinson, James M.. The Nag Hammadi Scriptures: The Revised and Updated Translation of Sacred Gnostic Texts Complete in One Volume (p. 142). HarperCollins. Kindle Edition.
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Post by girlscout on Aug 27, 2018 14:15:37 GMT
It is amazing to me how I can now read these texts with eyes to see. I am sure this would have meant nothing to me a few months ago.... “On the day when you were one, you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?” Meyer, Marvin W.; Robinson, James M.. The Nag Hammadi Scriptures: The Revised and Updated Translation of Sacred Gnostic Texts Complete in One Volume (p. 141). HarperCollins. Kindle Edition. What do you attribute the change to?
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Aug 27, 2018 14:49:03 GMT
It is amazing to me how I can now read these texts with eyes to see. I am sure this would have meant nothing to me a few months ago.... “On the day when you were one, you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?” Meyer, Marvin W.; Robinson, James M.. The Nag Hammadi Scriptures: The Revised and Updated Translation of Sacred Gnostic Texts Complete in One Volume (p. 141). HarperCollins. Kindle Edition. What do you attribute the change to? Reading JVP, going to a Sundance event in Canada, followed by getting my Shaman Turkey feather, followed by reading Angeliki’s book in combination with the Nag Hammadi Sciptures. But that is my road Girlscout....Just keep on listening to your own feeling. It IS that simple..... And......having patience. Do not try to force it. It will come as long as you want to listen to the Parents.
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Aug 27, 2018 14:57:18 GMT
It is amazing to me how I can now read these texts with eyes to see. I am sure this would have meant nothing to me a few months ago.... “On the day when you were one, you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?” Meyer, Marvin W.; Robinson, James M.. The Nag Hammadi Scriptures: The Revised and Updated Translation of Sacred Gnostic Texts Complete in One Volume (p. 141). HarperCollins. Kindle Edition. What do you attribute the change to? Actually, being able to read this particular text is due to Angeliki’s book which explains we become two from wholeness when we fall into the world. The first letter of Logos (the Word) signifying the dyadic world. We constantly oscillate between extremes in this world as we are no longer whole and cannot see that right and wrong are part of the same coin. Hence the becoming two (Adam the Divine Spark on Earth and Eve the Higher Self in the 8th dimension. Through self-epignosis we can eventually marry Adam with Eve (merging with your Higher Self) and become One again.
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Post by ML on Aug 29, 2018 8:47:27 GMT
The UNIVERSE is LITERALLY INSIDE US. By knowing, feeling, the spark inside us is alive and is one with the FATHER n MOTHER..... If you dont feel it you must KNOW 1st. you have to find your words..the trigger that will give you that feeling of overwhelming spark... If you have this feeling you will 'KNOW' dont fight it, dont listen to your 'Inner critic' listen to the authentic you....and then embrace it..embrace who you are... make it your reality.
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Aug 29, 2018 15:08:41 GMT
Wes says go through the holes in the Grid. Personally I think you will still be in the same system as pointed out by Angeliki and thus you will perish as everything in the Material and non Material Universe will ultimately run out of energy. Energy does not even exist in our Home, the True Light Hyperverse. Only Essence exists there. We all have to come to our own conclusions...
This is the advise from Jesus in the Gospel of Thomas. The motion and rest signifies being whole, having married the Adam with the Eve:
Jesus said, “If they say to you, ‘Where have you come from?’ say to them, ‘We have come from the light, from the place where the light came into being by itself, established [itself], [42] and appeared in their image.’ (2) If they say to you, ‘Is it you?’ 93 say, ‘We are its children, and we are the chosen of the living Father.’ (3) If they ask you, ‘What is the evidence of your Father in you?’ say to them, ‘It is motion and rest.’”
Meyer, Marvin W.; Robinson, James M.. The Nag Hammadi Scriptures: The Revised and Updated Translation of Sacred Gnostic Texts Complete in One Volume (p. 145). HarperCollins. Kindle Edition.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 15:32:37 GMT
Wes says go through the holes in the Grid. Personally I think you will still be in the same system as pointed out by Angeliki This has always been a head scratcher for me in that I wonder how much control we have after the death of the body. I don't want to get sucked up by a large spiritual vacuum cleaner. I say that jokingly of course but who ever went out a hole in the grid then told us this was or not the right thing to do. I am not sure what style of consciousness we will have when we move on But I for one don't want to end up in the blackness of nothing alone and lost. That might seem like a bit of a hell. Angelika says head for the golden light on the perimeter of the white light. Well I hope I have a choice. Remember the movie Matrix? Did they ever actually escape the matrix? Seems more they just jumped to another level of the game really.
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Post by ML on Sept 5, 2018 1:58:48 GMT
Wes says go through the holes in the Grid. Personally I think you will still be in the same system as pointed out by Angeliki This has always been a head scratcher for me in that I wonder how much control we have after the death of the body. I don't want to get sucked up by a large spiritual vacuum cleaner. I say that jokingly of course but who ever went out a hole in the grid then told us this was or not the right thing to do. I am not sure what style of consciousness we will have when we move on But I for one don't want to end up in the blackness of nothing alone and lost. That might seem like a bit of a hell. Angelika says head for the golden light on the perimeter of the white light. Well I hope I have a choice. Remember the movie Matrix? Did they ever actually escape the matrix? Seems more they just jumped to another level of the game really. In this regard. That wont be a problem at all because ..... You are the LIGHT.. you are made of True light not the false light that we have here in 3d. There cant be dark-nest wherever you go. the only dark-nest is here in 3d. because your True light is suppressed and encapsulated into a 'soul' of which half is made of the spirit of Sophia/Lucifer herself and the other half made of the same matter that composed the earth. but the moment your Spirit ( actually you) becomes whole ( Divine Spark + I AM PRESENCE ) and out of the 'soul'. There cant be dark-nest whenever/wherever you are present. Thanks
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Post by ML on Sept 10, 2018 6:37:01 GMT
This has always been a head scratcher for me in that I wonder how much control we have after the death of the body. I don't want to get sucked up by a large spiritual vacuum cleaner. I say that jokingly of course but who ever went out a hole in the grid then told us this was or not the right thing to do. I am not sure what style of consciousness we will have when we move on But I for one don't want to end up in the blackness of nothing alone and lost. That might seem like a bit of a hell. Angelika says head for the golden light on the perimeter of the white light. Well I hope I have a choice. Remember the movie Matrix? Did they ever actually escape the matrix? Seems more they just jumped to another level of the game really. In this regard. That wont be a problem at all because ..... You are the LIGHT.. you are made of True light not the false light that we have here in 3d. There cant be dark-nest wherever you go. the only dark-nest is here in 3d.because your True light is suppressed and encapsulated into a 'soul' of which half is made of the spirit of Sophia/Lucifer herself and the other half made of the same matter that composed the earth. but the moment your Spirit ( actually you) becomes whole ( Divine Spark + I AM PRESENCE ) and out of the 'soul'. There cant be dark-nest whenever/wherever you are present.
Thanks I am quoting myself here as i just got to this part of the book by Angeliki.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 0:20:35 GMT
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the kingdom."
Reminds me of what they say in Buddhism about transcending.
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Post by ray on Dec 28, 2018 20:55:24 GMT
Wes says go through the holes in the Grid. Personally I think you will still be in the same system as pointed out by Angeliki This has always been a head scratcher for me in that I wonder how much control we have after the death of the body. I don't want to get sucked up by a large spiritual vacuum cleaner. I say that jokingly of course but who ever went out a hole in the grid then told us this was or not the right thing to do. I am not sure what style of consciousness we will have when we move on But I for one don't want to end up in the blackness of nothing alone and lost. That might seem like a bit of a hell. Angelika says head for the golden light on the perimeter of the white light. Well I hope I have a choice. Remember the movie Matrix? Did they ever actually escape the matrix? Seems more they just jumped to another level of the game really. Wes pointed out that the Grid goes around the Earth, so if you are outside the grid you are no longer in any system. Let me assure you of a few things. Michael Newton using strict scientific protocols performed 7,000 predictable case studies on death and the afterlife. You may not believe all his conclusions BUT he certainly would NOT have bothered to fake 7,000 cases. He is respected by his peers and you can learn or confirm some things about death. As far as going through the hole in the grid, logic should tell you that the grid is to PREVENT escape and escape means freedom. There is also NO blackness because outside the grid you will be seeing 96% more of the universe, so there will be lights, and colors everywhere. Since your body is already dead, you have nothing left to fear. As far as being lost and alone, you should realize that YOUR CONTROL is your consciousness. Such as say to yourself: "I want to go to a planet in Orion to learn about the afterlife." Your consciousness will travel their instantly. Avoid ALL lights and tunnels and realize that on the INSIDE of the Grid/earth etc. anyone that you see after your death is NOT on your side but rather trying to direct you to the reincarnation trap.
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Post by IW on Dec 30, 2018 13:44:01 GMT
Barbara: I guess 'escape' would come through internal 'ascended consciousness'. If we haven't achieved that I guess we would still land up somewhere in this system... ?
That's it Barbara, whatever one thinks "needs" to be done externally for "escape" had to have been done already internally, or one is still in the same system although it might look different.
BTW, I liked your post on attachments in the Fruits thread. Lots of people are afraid to even look at all the things in this life we are attached to, concerned about our pets, children, parents, ie. all the things we've worked for and built, even the life long habits we've created for ourselves, or it could be the physical body alone we are attached to- having done what we could to keep it going in health.
all are attachments to this world and system.
quote: Also the idea of not knowing what would become of those close to me, the idea that I might not have a window into what is going on here.
If I think about it on an intellectual level I feel that it would not be a problem. I guess I have previously only thought of it in terms of having passed on and not being drawn back in by previously deceased loved ones. But when I thought about it in terms of choosing to leave and put myself in that emotional space all kinds of issues arose and I welled up.
On a more mundane level there is the "life unlived" i.e. future plans (nothing much, but I felt a bit of a wrench) and having my affairs in order.
The more work we've done loosening the bonds here internally, the bigger the holes are for escaping here externally.
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Post by IW on Dec 30, 2018 18:05:54 GMT
ray:It should be noted that 'internally' you can be controlled by the AIF. See the book; Walking among US by Jacobs
ray, seriously? The puppets and the puppet show is a basic no brainer, internally/externally no difference, whether its through nanobots, through "love" bites, through social conditioning, through genetic inbreeding etc.. (the AIF does its dirty any way it can)
What is your point about listing a book with every posting or comment?. This is not proof, just like someone with letters after their name does not make them serious as opposed to "non" serious. Having academics and degrees might make you acceptable to the world and being indoctrinated into its system, but is completely meaningless when it comes to "truth" (the one truth or many personal truths etc).
There is a book on every subject, topic, opinion, imaginary or "real" discovery out there.
(btw I've read that book, not bad imo)
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Post by ray on Dec 30, 2018 20:25:08 GMT
I may have stretched things a little, Irish, but you carried the stretch way too far. The AIF is only at 10% influence at the moment in a study I read, in a book, of course. LOL. On the other side of the fence or maybe the bookself, I would certainly like to know where views contrary to basic logic are coming from, or on the positive side, where I can find further info. LOL, I also don't have that sufficient books to list with every comment but at least I avoid getting hung up on one author only.
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Dec 30, 2018 20:57:08 GMT
This conversation seems to have gone of topic somewhat......
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Post by ray on Dec 31, 2018 2:53:23 GMT
This has always been a head scratcher for me in that I wonder how much control we have after the death of the body. I don't want to get sucked up by a large spiritual vacuum cleaner. I say that jokingly of course but who ever went out a hole in the grid then told us this was or not the right thing to do. I am not sure what style of consciousness we will have when we move on But I for one don't want to end up in the blackness of nothing alone and lost. That might seem like a bit of a hell. Angelika says head for the golden light on the perimeter of the white light. Well I hope I have a choice. I do, because I will know where I am going, can't become lost and will certainly NOT be in blackness!!Ray
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Post by wornout on Apr 10, 2021 20:21:38 GMT
These are very well done upon the subject matter.
- The Lost Gospel of Thomas - ROBERT SEPEHR -
- The Gospel of Thomas – PETER BOLLAND -
This quote I do really find profound.
"(13) (1) Jesus said to his disciples: "Compare me, and tell me whom I am like." (2) Simon Peter said to him: "You are like a just messenger." (3) Matthew said to him: "You are like an (especially) wise philosopher." (4) Thomas said to him: "Teacher, my mouth will not bear at all to say whom you are like." (5) Jesus said: "I am not your teacher. For you have drunk, you have become intoxicated at the bubbling spring that I have measured out." (6) And he took him, (and) withdrew, (and) he said three words to him. (7) But when Thomas came back to his companions, they asked him: "What did Jesus say to you?" (8) Thomas said to them: "If I tell you one of the words he said to me, you will pick up stones and throw them at me, and fire will come out of the stones (and) burn you up."
Pg. 273
The Nag Hammadi Library The Gospel of Thomas
Translated by Stephen J. Patterson and James M. Robinson
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