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Post by ML on May 17, 2018 11:32:05 GMT
Without any judgement or negative thoughts towards Wes. I was really surprised .... from his last video : what do you guys think?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 18:32:38 GMT
Wow wes is going through a lot... hope he makes it out safe though...
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 2:49:53 GMT
I for one am glad he's back. He has a lot to offer. Obviously he has been through a lot. He mentioned a divorce in his update. He deserves to make a little money off of his work. I don't know anything about Ariel Glad. Does anyone have any knowledge of her material?
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Jul 4, 2018 7:03:20 GMT
Everyone has to do their own discernment. I for one am extremely grateful to Wes and he was and is one the major elements in my personal journey. We often PM'd. However, every time that I notified him of a negative aspect on the WPP forum, he would just give a 'not home' sign. Not reacting at all. This happened several times. Orforea with all his curious and sometimes dark elements once questioned where Wes got all his information. Good question. I also once journeyed as I started to get doubts and I did feel a negative aspect although I could not pinpoint it. So there is something that makes me cautious. Not in the least how the forum ended with Truelight's departure. Truelight had this feeling that we were being part of some sort of experiment / learning exercise and she may be right. So it may be that he has been compromised or not. Whether this was done consciously by Wes or not I do not know. I tend to feel the latter may be true. Again, these are just my feelings. Personally I think the answer to any dark presence / Archon or whatever you want to call it is to give Love which makes it very easy because I do that with others too. Giving Love takes away all their power. And finally, there are undoubtedly many golden nuggets in Wes's videos and work. So with discernment I intend to keep on being open to his info and will continue to Love him as I do the Archons / Annunaki / etc ( yes I really do...). For the same reason that I totally stopped protecting myself maybe we should not put our attention on it at all (which makes me doubt if I should write this at all..). Maybe we should just keep our frequencies high and focus on things we want as opposed to what we do not want. If you protect yourself you admit there is something out there to threaten you and by doing that you manifest the very thing you are trying to prevent. Having stopped protecting myself, my family members, my house has resulted in total peace AND has saved me a lot of extra time to manifest what I want. Similarly with this forum, I believe we should focus on manifesting the things we want. Just expressing my feelings for your discernment.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 22:57:07 GMT
And I still say we depend on the writings and teachings of others more than we should. To be honest Wes through recent actions as proved he is not a perfected guru. I felt like I was given the big middle finger. Sorry if that offends anyone but too many of the ones I study in the end disappoint. The enlightened ones who are far advanced beyond me? The ones who want me to pay them to learn? All can kiss my aging toushie
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Post by ML on Jul 6, 2018 2:01:05 GMT
Everyone has to do their own discernment. I for one am extremely grateful to Wes and he was and is one the major elements in my personal journey. We often PM'd. However, every time that I notified him of a negative aspect on the WPP forum, he would just give a 'not home' sign. Not reacting at all. This happened several times. Orforea with all his curious and sometimes dark elements once questioned where Wes got all his information. Good question. I also once journeyed as I started to get doubts and I did feel a negative aspect although I could not pinpoint it. So there is something that makes me cautious. Not in the least how the forum ended with Truelight's departure. Truelight had this feeling that we were being part of some sort of experiment / learning exercise and she may be right. So it may be that he has been compromised or not. Whether this was done consciously by Wes or not I do not know. I tend to feel the latter may be true. Again, these are just my feelings. Personally I think the answer to any dark presence / Archon or whatever you want to call it is to give Love which makes it very easy because I do that with others too. Giving Love takes away all their power. And finally, there are undoubtedly many golden nuggets in Wes's videos and work. So with discernment I intend to keep on being open to his info and will continue to Love him as I do the Archons / Annunaki / etc ( yes I really do...). For the same reason that I totally stopped protecting myself maybe we should not put our attention on it at all (which makes me doubt if I should write this at all..). Maybe we should just keep our frequencies high and focus on things we want as opposed to what we do not want. If you protect yourself you admit there is something out there to threaten you and by doing that you manifest the very thing you are trying to prevent. Having stopped protecting myself, my family members, my house has resulted in total peace AND has saved me a lot of extra time to manifest what I want. Similarly with this forum, I believe we should focus on manifesting the things we want. Just expressing my feelings for your discernment. AMAZING INSIGHT AS usual my friend. I cant believe i missed this post for 2 days I agree with this 100%
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Post by ML on Jul 6, 2018 2:12:16 GMT
And I still say we depend on the writings and teachings of others more than we should. To be honest Wes through recent actions as proved he is not a perfected guru. I felt like I was given the big middle finger. Sorry if that offends anyone but too many of the ones I study in the end disappoint. The enlightened ones who are far advanced beyond me? The ones who want me to pay them to learn? All can kiss my aging toushie Hi Myka, I dig/understand what you are saying... at least i hope i do.. lol you are correct we should limit our dependencies on them.... Can you believe i planned on paying Avalon for activation? hahaha the other me keeps on sayin "no" ..looking back it feels right that i never paid anyone for 'enlightenment' the reason i keep on 'following' guys like Wes, John and Avalon is.. They bring the un-usual Gems( Now i remember our friend JimC from the old forum ). Its totally up to us to DECIDE...I am convinced that the main souls here has the capabilities required to pick the actual gems even if presented together with bombs that can explode in our faces....even if presented by Enki himself. Thanks Myka
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Post by girlscout on Jul 6, 2018 2:58:04 GMT
The folks we’re trying to glean Knowledge from are still flawed, like we are. They are equals that did more research in one direction than we have. We’re curious, so we peek. They have to make a living too, and that research takes time, no?
Then again, maybe we should just “get on with” creating something different?
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Post by ML on Jul 6, 2018 3:23:57 GMT
The folks we’re trying to glean Knowledge from are still flawed, like we are. They are equals that did more research in one direction than we have. We’re curious, so we peek. They have to make a living too, and that research takes time, no? Then again, maybe we should just “get on with” creating something different? I rank Panella and Wes above any other because they offer their work free. Obviously that is not 100% accurate now.. that Wes is charging for PDF's... but the output is already available for free. It is some sort of 'donation' the way i see it. Both their works requires massive amount of resources. so its a gift from them. Avalon charges for his book. but so does David Icke, Michael Tellinger, etc etc.
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Jul 6, 2018 9:32:43 GMT
And I still say we depend on the writings and teachings of others more than we should. To be honest Wes through recent actions as proved he is not a perfected guru. I felt like I was given the big middle finger. Sorry if that offends anyone but too many of the ones I study in the end disappoint. The enlightened ones who are far advanced beyond me? The ones who want me to pay them to learn? All can kiss my aging toushie Fully agree Myka. There is only one place where you should get your knowledge in my view and that is your Heart. You can speed the learning process by getting info from others outside but the answers for you are NEVER going to be found there. As John Panella puts, you have to become the child again and listen to your Parents. They are only to be found through the Heart.
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Post by girlscout on Jul 6, 2018 12:26:49 GMT
And I still say we depend on the writings and teachings of others more than we should. To be honest Wes through recent actions as proved he is not a perfected guru. I felt like I was given the big middle finger. Sorry if that offends anyone but too many of the ones I study in the end disappoint. The enlightened ones who are far advanced beyond me? The ones who want me to pay them to learn? All can kiss my aging toushie Fully agree Myka. There is only one place where you should get your knowledge in my view and that is your Heart. You can speed the learning process by getting info from others outside but the answers for you are NEVER going to be found there. As John Panella puts, you have to become the child again and listen to your Parents. They are only to be found through the Heart. And.... learning to get in touch with the heart - and then how to hear - and then trusting it; that requires learning and practice, it seems. I am working on that, and sometimes stumble. =/
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 20:29:40 GMT
And I still say we depend on the writings and teachings of others more than we should. To be honest Wes through recent actions as proved he is not a perfected guru. I felt like I was given the big middle finger. Sorry if that offends anyone but too many of the ones I study in the end disappoint. The enlightened ones who are far advanced beyond me? The ones who want me to pay them to learn? All can kiss my aging toushie Fully agree Myka. There is only one place where you should get your knowledge in my view and that is your Heart. You can speed the learning process by getting info from others outside but the answers for you are NEVER going to be found there. As John Panella puts, you have to become the child again and listen to your Parents. They are only to be found through the Heart. John Panella seems to me to be the most sincere. He seems to want nothing other than to awaken. John quickly granted me privilege to his recent writings.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 23:13:47 GMT
The folks we’re trying to glean Knowledge from are still flawed, like we are. They are equals that did more research in one direction than we have. We’re curious, so we peek. They have to make a living too, and that research takes time, no? Then again, maybe we should just “get on with” creating something different? I rank Panella and Wes above any other because they offer their work free. Obviously that is not 100% accurate now.. that Wes is charging for PDF's... but the output is already available for free. It is some sort of 'donation' the way i see it. Both their works requires massive amount of resources. so its a gift from them. Avalon charges for his book. but so does David Icke, Michael Tellinger, etc etc. Everything we offer is free. We do not ask people to pay for any of our information. Wes has always allowed people the choice to donate for his efforts, and it feels best for us to continue this way. No one needs to pay for a transcript, as well. If someone wants a written copy of our articles, they are free to copy the words directly from the computer screen as they watch the videos. Yes, of course, we are flawed. We are humans with wounds, distractions, and obligations just like everyone else. We never claim to be otherwise. Please do not hold us to a higher standard than you have set for yourselves. We are all the same. We are all here just learning as much as we can and we hope others can benefit from what we have experienced. It feels wrong not to share it. If anyone here works for an income, you have allowed a price to be placed on your time and service. These other people that are mentioned above (Avalon, Icke, Tellinger) are the same. I see no difference here. It is not wrong to place value in yourself or your contributions, in my opinion. The only difference is that these people have set their own value while most of us have someone else doing it for us.
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Post by IW on Jul 7, 2018 7:03:21 GMT
Ariel do you believe the same as Wes does
about the "Queen's experiment"?
This was in one of the later videos that was put out.. and also in the WPP.
Thanks for the work you and Wes do and I agree, it is important to share.
Whether one person is helped or many, an experience shared is empowering and uplifting.
The more the experienced truth is held within (and shared) the less room there is for the lies to remain!
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Post by ML on Jul 7, 2018 8:46:45 GMT
I rank Panella and Wes above any other because they offer their work free. Obviously that is not 100% accurate now.. that Wes is charging for PDF's... but the output is already available for free. It is some sort of 'donation' the way i see it. Both their works requires massive amount of resources. so its a gift from them. Avalon charges for his book. but so does David Icke, Michael Tellinger, etc etc. Everything we offer is free. We do not ask people to pay for any of our information. Wes has always allowed people the choice to donate for his efforts, and it feels best for us to continue this way. No one needs to pay for a transcript, as well. If someone wants a written copy of our articles, they are free to copy the words directly from the computer screen as they watch the videos. Yes, of course, we are flawed. We are humans with wounds, distractions, and obligations just like everyone else. We never claim to be otherwise. Please do not hold us to a higher standard than you have set for yourselves. We are all the same. We are all here just learning as much as we can and we hope others can benefit from what we have experienced. It feels wrong not to share it. If anyone here works for an income, you have allowed a price to be placed on your time and service. These other people that are mentioned above (Avalon, Icke, Tellinger) are the same. I see no difference here. It is not wrong to place value in yourself or your contributions, in my opinion. The only difference is that these people have set their own value while most of us have someone else doing it for us. Copy on this Ariel. Thanks for visiting.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 13:11:13 GMT
Ariel do you believe the same as Wes does about the "Queen's experiment"? Yes, I do. I have no doubt about it.
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Post by IW on Jul 7, 2018 17:46:12 GMT
Thanks for your answer Ariel. I disagree but I do not have your experiences so I can only be whare I'm at with my own. Looking forward to more videos
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 20:46:10 GMT
Thanks for your answer Ariel. I disagree but I do not have your experiences so I can only be whare I'm at with my own. Looking forward to more videos You're welcome. I'm not here to convince anyone of anything or disrupt/interrupt any conversations. This is a tight-knit group, I notice. I wanted to clarify a misconception about our intentions to begin, but I mainly joined this forum to show my support to Miron_Lang. Thank you
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Post by ML on Jul 9, 2018 2:03:52 GMT
Thanks for your answer Ariel. I disagree but I do not have your experiences so I can only be whare I'm at with my own. Looking forward to more videos You're welcome. I'm not here to convince anyone of anything or disrupt/interrupt any conversations. This is a tight-knit group, I notice. I wanted to clarify a misconception about our intentions to begin, but I mainly joined this forum to show my support to Miron_Lang. Thank you (((( Thank you so much Ariel! ))))
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 14:46:45 GMT
Great shout out to Miron in video 34!
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Post by susan on Aug 28, 2018 22:09:16 GMT
I joined Wes old forum just before it went down. This was after I read the full wwp and was blown away by his content. I am weary of joining any more forums as I see that trolls and lots of talk about someone being a guru and how he is not (putting someone a pedestal to just push him down) All this just gets old, take his information if it is valuable if it's not just leave it but why do we have to drag the person into the mud. I do not think being a public person is easy today, everyone wants to take a shot at you, everything you do or don't do gets scrutinized. Just because I read someone who opens up different ways of seeing things does not make me a groupie and I believe everything he/she has concluded. I think Wes believes he is obligated to make certain things public that he has discovered and he will catch hell for it because now he is a target. This a commentary on the way things are on the web and with society in general. Why would I want to have another go at this world in the shape it is currently in, no way.
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Post by ML on Aug 29, 2018 0:40:31 GMT
I joined Wes old forum just before it went down. This was after I read the full wwp and was blown away by his content. I am weary of joining any more forums as I see that trolls and lots of talk about someone being a guru and how he is not (putting someone a pedestal to just push him down) All this just gets old, take his information if it is valuable if it's not just leave it but why do we have to drag the person into the mud. I do not think being a public person is easy today, everyone wants to take a shot at you, everything you do or don't do gets scrutinized. Just because I read someone who opens up different ways of seeing things does not make me a groupie and I believe everything he/she has concluded. I think Wes believes he is obligated to make certain things public that he has discovered and he will catch hell for it because now he is a target. This a commentary on the way things are on the web and with society in general. Why would I want to have another go at this world in the shape it is currently in, no way. Thanks for this post susan. I sense some confusion from your post. We love Wes here I am in email correspondence with him as well other members of this forum. Wisdom and Love to you Susan, Thanks for visiting..
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Post by IW on Aug 29, 2018 5:49:02 GMT
Hi Susan! Most of us are Pro Wes (and Ariel too), We like them Although there is no push/pull in any direction that one NEEDS to take to belong to this forum. The general thought here is to not be a SHEEP. Think and trust yourself to know what is. Thanks for your thoughts and comment.
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Post by IW on Oct 23, 2018 19:54:31 GMT
Is there anyone besides myself that currently are keeping up with Wes and his videos?
Just out of curiosity.
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