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Post by IW on Jul 20, 2018 9:04:50 GMT
GOSH! yep golly gee! Talk about the verses timing. I had said before that usually when I ask a question there is the answer just waiting for me. Thank you HS. AND thank you elisabeth!
I had recently put out there in a post regarding the sigil --and the dragon mother, as not being our real original parent.
Although people can certainly go along with it, since our dna has been messed with and we now have all sorts of reptilian implants in us, yep like the reptilian brain and the kundalini snake that rises from the base of us in an upward fashion. So much for "the Queens experiment" hu-man. I personally reject that! No harm meant to those that want this and choose this. Dragons are beautiful creatures by the way.
Since I do not make videos or write books, I asked for something that would show what I meant by my father/mother. They are galactic man (celestial man) and Eve. This relates closely to JVP's father/mother.
In this video I found through elisabeth's "can you stand the truth?" link, gosh, with only 192 views, I found the description. It starts at 11:26 to 12:00 but the whole video is really good (as are his other videos).
I am typing it here for good measure.
Man's spiritual expression (Eve)- the I Am presence or Higher Self- that is never incarnated, unites with the incarnated (as man or woman) Divine Spark/Adam
(( I call this the all that is/ the Allspark))
After this unification the Remembrance is born.
You must know who you are, you must go within to remember.
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Post by IW on Jul 20, 2018 9:06:41 GMT
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Post by IW on Jul 21, 2018 19:58:56 GMT
I realize that at times I am similar to a hammer. Not delicate or carefull in presentation.
This is one of the most important things to get right for a truther. The shining ones are able to confuse most in thinking they are speaking/praying to a higher power or God.
Most or all of us here now know who this God is- the God of this world, the creator of religions.
It also follows the term divine feminine as terminology goes could mean the dragon queen who uses many names or Eve.
Elisabeth has got it right in that anyone thinking what Wes and others propose as a simple "don't go into the light and head for the holes in the net" is what needs to be done
is as misleading as telling people to follow what the pope says.
That isn't to say he hasn't helped many as White Buffalo has said. But no one stands on their past. We only stand on our present. Now.
You need to know who you are and also be connected to father/mother. This is a rejection of the bad seed that's been planted.
The father/ mother wish none to perish. NO ONE who is seeking this truth, this remembrance will be left behind.
Love conquers all .
Thank you again elisabeth for sharing this. We help each other help ourselves.
I hope I haven't offended anyone.
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Jul 21, 2018 20:55:41 GMT
I realize that at times I am similar to a hammer. Not delicate or carefull in presentation. This is one of the most important things to get right for a truther. The shining ones are able to confuse most in thinking they are speaking/praying to a higher power or God. Most or all of us here now know who this God is- the God of this world, the creator of religions. It also follows the term divine feminine as terminology goes could mean the dragon queen who uses many names or Eve. Elisabeth has got it right in that anyone thinking what Wes and others propose as a simple "don't go into the light and head for the holes in the net" is what needs to be done is as misleading as telling people to follow what the pope says. That isn't to say he hasn't helped many as White Buffalo has said. But no one stands on their past. We only stand on our present. Now. You need to know who you are and also be connected to father/mother. This is a rejection of the bad seed that's been planted. The father/ mother wish none to perish. NO ONE who is seeking this truth, this remembrance will be left behind. Love conquers all . Thank you again elisabeth for sharing this. We help each other help ourselves. I hope I haven't offended anyone. you have acquired much wisdom and I see you, I thank you and I honour you my Sister |
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Post by IW on Jul 22, 2018 5:08:33 GMT
There is no credit to myself for anything true you may find in the Father/Mother -- that spark that burns within us to find unity.
I really am as faulty as a person comes, this body pretty much makes sure of that. If I was to describe myself as a body part, my guess would be to say an elbow or a knee lol.
Here's a few more videos. It talks of truelight approx minute 23..
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Post by IW on Jul 22, 2018 5:09:37 GMT
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Post by IW on Jul 24, 2018 6:22:56 GMT
canyoustandthetruth.com
There is a difference between material desires and our biotic needs.
As a start we will have to define the concept of MEASURE in our behavior. Meaning the balanced behavior.
Our every act that exceeds this measure, balance, starts to become problematic.
Example:
We need to eat to survive.
But when gluttony governs us, then we cease to serve our biotic need and we are subject to passion.
We need to be clothed, but the ongoing concern about our appearance, stimulates self-love.
We need a transport vehicle to move, but clinging to the most impressive, the most beautiful and fastest model, ties us to matter.
The same principal applies to all our needs. Each redundancy feeds passion. We must therefore set for all our needs an imaginary boundary line beyond which we will have to realize we have exceeded that measure.
But this is the first part of this basic exercise. Because we should have in mind that –in the case of a shortage- the arrogation of even our basic needs could potentially lead us to extreme behaviors.
There, a different chapter of self-control applies… that requires a lot of self-knowledge.
So we come to another issue that has to do with the MANNER in which we claim these goods, which (manner) should always be under our absolute control.
Every man must initially detect the feelings/desires that cause him to divert from the identified measure, in order to satisfy them.
Then he will easily see that behind every emotion like that hides a passion.
All passions and desires, tie us to matter, like anchors. No matter how loud someone yells that he wants to redeem his soul, if he constantly feeds his passions, it is as if he builds the walls of his prison ever stronger.
But I think that the realization of the Truth that man lives in a virtual reality which is projected in its entirety from his material brain, helps him to weaken his passions, since he realizes that the material objects he is attracted to are simply ghosts and that he is trapped by them.
The less we are content with, the richer and happier we become.
When passions, desires and weaknesses dominate man, then the mind begins to be controlled by them. The thoughts become aggressive and weave another level of entrapment for man, because they are mainly focused on the ways that will satisfy these passions and weaknesses, but at that level, the “moral” factor is gone.
With the disappearance of morals and morality, virtue is lost and the Soul ceases to feed its Spiritual (indivisible) part, which slowly deteriorates. The soul is then left only with its energy (divisible) part, which drags and sinks her in dense matter trapping her indefinitely.
This is probably basic for most folks, but since it is something I am self working on, I thought I'd post it.
The illusion is that we need, but the fact is it is mostly want (passions and lust) that motivates us.
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Jul 24, 2018 7:57:21 GMT
Thank you Elisabeth for bringing this to our attention. I have just started reading the book and personally I feel this is a very very important book. So again thank you thank you!!
It seems to take the work of JVP a lot further and I feel this book is able to bring those who read it a few more notches up the ladder of awareness.
For me the below sums up what we must do in order to return to our Parents:
This is why, Celestial Man, originating from the Aeon, in order to return back to IT, acts as follows: He denounces the prison of the body/ grave which is forced upon him through birth. He maintains his balance, un-oscillating, in the change of time. He reinstates his soul to order, shutting the door behind him. He discovers the identity of ‘his Essence’ through self-knowledge (self-Epignosis) and walks toward his Aeon/ Cosmos. There and then, he takes in the Unified Patrogenes Light (of the Father), and not the split quasi/ substitute light (Ant-Avge) of Logos.
Anagnostou - Kalogera, Angeliki. Can You Stand The Truth?: The Chronicle of Man's Imprisonment: Last Call! (pp. 92-93). Angeliki Anagnostou - Kalogera. Kindle Edition.
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Jul 24, 2018 8:03:01 GMT
On the WPP forum I once asked if anyone was aware what the significance of the letter Λ was as it seems to pop up everywhere these days. It is more and more common to replace the letter A with this symbol Λ and I just felt certain there is a lot behind this. Now what do I find in this excellent book. Probably this is one the answers......
May I remind you that the Gr. w. Λόγος (Logos/ Word) also means fraction, i.e. fission, division, separation, with its initial letter Λ itself, indicating precisely this concept with its shape.
Anagnostou - Kalogera, Angeliki. Can You Stand The Truth?: The Chronicle of Man's Imprisonment: Last Call! (p. 93). Angeliki Anagnostou - Kalogera. Kindle Edition.
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Jul 24, 2018 8:26:33 GMT
canyoustandthetruth.com There is a difference between material desires and our biotic needs. As a start we will have to define the concept of MEASURE in our behavior. Meaning the balanced behavior. Our every act that exceeds this measure, balance, starts to become problematic. Example: We need to eat to survive. But when gluttony governs us, then we cease to serve our biotic need and we are subject to passion. We need to be clothed, but the ongoing concern about our appearance, stimulates self-love. We need a transport vehicle to move, but clinging to the most impressive, the most beautiful and fastest model, ties us to matter. The same principal applies to all our needs. Each redundancy feeds passion. We must therefore set for all our needs an imaginary boundary line beyond which we will have to realize we have exceeded that measure. But this is the first part of this basic exercise. Because we should have in mind that –in the case of a shortage- the arrogation of even our basic needs could potentially lead us to extreme behaviors. There, a different chapter of self-control applies… that requires a lot of self-knowledge. So we come to another issue that has to do with the MANNER in which we claim these goods, which (manner) should always be under our absolute control. Every man must initially detect the feelings/desires that cause him to divert from the identified measure, in order to satisfy them. Then he will easily see that behind every emotion like that hides a passion. All passions and desires, tie us to matter, like anchors. No matter how loud someone yells that he wants to redeem his soul, if he constantly feeds his passions, it is as if he builds the walls of his prison ever stronger. But I think that the realization of the Truth that man lives in a virtual reality which is projected in its entirety from his material brain, helps him to weaken his passions, since he realizes that the material objects he is attracted to are simply ghosts and that he is trapped by them. The less we are content with, the richer and happier we become. When passions, desires and weaknesses dominate man, then the mind begins to be controlled by them. The thoughts become aggressive and weave another level of entrapment for man, because they are mainly focused on the ways that will satisfy these passions and weaknesses, but at that level, the “moral” factor is gone. With the disappearance of morals and morality, virtue is lost and the Soul ceases to feed its Spiritual (indivisible) part, which slowly deteriorates. The soul is then left only with its energy (divisible) part, which drags and sinks her in dense matter trapping her indefinitely. This is probably basic for most folks, but since it is something I am self working on, I thought I'd post it.
The illusion is that we need, but the fact is it is mostly want (passions and lust) that motivates us.–For man’s natural status quo, what you propose is exactly what is needed. Only by diminishing the breadth (amplitude) of his daily oscillation as far as possible, and by equalizing the oppositions between the ‘dipoles’, can he find the balance. Then, after detaching himself from them, he will clearly see this dyadicism of nature and recognize in it ‘the tree of knowledge of good and evil’. But as long as man holds himself stuck onto this oscillation that sometimes lifts him and then brings him down, it is impossible for him to realize this truth. Nevertheless, this state of balance he will apply to his life is superficial and not real. Anagnostou - Kalogera, Angeliki. Can You Stand The Truth?: The Chronicle of Man's Imprisonment: Last Call! (p. 98). Angeliki Anagnostou - Kalogera. Kindle Edition. |
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Post by ML on Jul 24, 2018 9:28:43 GMT
Created a dedicated category
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Post by ML on Jul 24, 2018 10:45:30 GMT
AMAZING AMAZING FIND..
Interesting topics left and right i dont know where to begin... i have seven tabs open LOL
Thanks
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Jul 24, 2018 12:52:30 GMT
Haha, I find myself wanting to learn the basics of Greek.....
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Jul 24, 2018 13:04:18 GMT
Wow. This one is definitely new for me. It is possible for a Dark Seed and Non Seed (?) to become a True Seed if I understand this correctly (in JVP terms). Maybe this has happened to my brother when he changed from a 100% narcissist to a kind human being...
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–The spiritual ‘drive’; this entire previous and long-lasting procedure of self-knowledge cannot EVER be completed by a plain Soul, except if there is a deeper force, uninterruptedly supporting this difficult effort. In our previous discussion, we compared this ‘power’ to the ‘desperate cry for help’ by man's very own Spirit. If this power does not exist inside a man, every effort is abandoned after the first difficulties and man’s entire dynamism is focused on the daily material productiveness and not Spiritual Salvation. Every plain Soul however, has the freedom to choose: either to remain in this world forever, accepting the presents of its god/ creator, or to ask to be ‘filled’/ completed with Spirit from the Immaculate FatherLands (HyperUniverses).
Anagnostou - Kalogera, Angeliki. Can You Stand The Truth?: The Chronicle of Man's Imprisonment: Last Call! (p. 145). Angeliki Anagnostou - Kalogera. Kindle Edition.
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Jul 24, 2018 14:16:57 GMT
Like Truelight always said, you need to experience it for yourself. Everything else is not to be trusted..
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Β) PLATO’S ‘PHAEDO, OR ABOUT THE PSYCHE’ [= SOUL], ATHANASOPOULOS I., K. (83a): «The lovers of knowledge, then, I say, know that philosophy, after taking possession of the soul …tries to redeem it (set it free), pointing out that investigation through the eyes is full of deceit, as well as, through the ears and the other senses, urging the soul to withdraw from these, except in so far as their use is unavoidable. The soul should also (according to philosophy) collect and concentrate itself within itself, and trust nothing except itself, because only by its own pure cognition {Tr. n. ‘Noesis’ from ‘Noûs’} would it be able to recognize the true essence of things.»
Anagnostou - Kalogera, Angeliki. Can You Stand The Truth?: The Chronicle of Man's Imprisonment: Last Call! (p. 166). Angeliki Anagnostou - Kalogera. Kindle Edition.
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Post by duckie on Jul 24, 2018 18:24:11 GMT
Wow. This one is definitely new for me. It is possible for a Dark Seed and Non Seed (?) to become a True Seed if I understand this correctly (in JVP terms). Maybe this has happened to my brother when he changed from a 100% narcissist to a kind human being... ---- –The spiritual ‘drive’; this entire previous and long-lasting procedure of self-knowledge cannot EVER be completed by a plain Soul, except if there is a deeper force, uninterruptedly supporting this difficult effort. In our previous discussion, we compared this ‘power’ to the ‘desperate cry for help’ by man's very own Spirit. If this power does not exist inside a man, every effort is abandoned after the first difficulties and man’s entire dynamism is focused on the daily material productiveness and not Spiritual Salvation. Every plain Soul however, has the freedom to choose: either to remain in this world forever, accepting the presents of its god/ creator, or to ask to be ‘filled’/ completed with Spirit from the Immaculate FatherLands (HyperUniverses). Anagnostou - Kalogera, Angeliki. Can You Stand The Truth?: The Chronicle of Man's Imprisonment: Last Call! (p. 145). Angeliki Anagnostou - Kalogera. Kindle Edition. I think this is a really important point, WB, and why I find it hard to believe that a narcissist cannot change. As long as there is the right intent, will, desire, faith, whatever we want to call "it" is there, a person can change. An alcoholic, a drug abuser, a sexual predator, a narcissist, <fill in with your favorite depraved personality>, can change. But there HAS to be a belief in something much higher than the ego that calls to the person. Without this higher voice, we can always be misled down a side path, tempted by material things that feed to our ego or lust.
What I have found myself contemplating lately, after re-reading the JVP's series again (although I'm only on the second reading of the 3rd book), is the separation between the good seeds and the dark seeds. I don't think it was his intent, but the way I read it is that each of us human is either a good seed or a bad seed. Now, after some reflection, I have come to decide that we are all comprised of both good seeds and dark seeds. Each of these seeds is a thought-form, an impulse, a gesture, a decision. It is still up to us to decide on the results of our actions -- will it bear good fruit or not?
Anyway, I am really liking THIS book a lot so far! Thanks again, Elisabeth!
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Post by IW on Aug 24, 2018 0:32:55 GMT
I just got the book in the mail. Wow, it's like weightlifting. Only on page 37 so far. THERE are stories in here to help the understanding. I like it so far!
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Post by Henrik on Aug 24, 2018 9:09:39 GMT
I just got the book in the mail. Wow, it's like weightlifting. Only on page 37 so far. THERE are stories in here to help the understanding. I like it so far! Agreed, I got it last week. It's awesome! |
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Aug 24, 2018 14:41:45 GMT
I just got the book in the mail. Wow, it's like weightlifting. Only on page 37 so far. THERE are stories in here to help the understanding. I like it so far! Agreed, I got it last week. It's awesome! reading for the second time. All I can say is that this complements JVP and for the first time I feel I understand where we came from, what happened and most importantly what is going to happen. And..... it is all cool. I feel safe in presence of my Parents and just hope that I will continue to listen to them so that I can help my Family as best I can. |
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–For man’s natural status quo, what you propose is exactly what is needed. Only by diminishing the breadth (amplitude) of his daily oscillation as far as possible, and by equalizing the oppositions between the ‘dipoles’, can he find the balance. Then, after detaching himself from them, he will clearly see this dyadicism of nature and recognize in it ‘the tree of knowledge of good and evil’. But as long as man holds himself stuck onto this oscillation that sometimes lifts him and then brings him down, it is impossible for him to realize this truth. Nevertheless, this state of balance he will apply to his life is superficial and not real. Anagnostou - Kalogera, Angeliki. Can You Stand The Truth?: The Chronicle of Man's Imprisonment: Last Call! (p. 98). Angeliki Anagnostou - Kalogera. Kindle Edition. I have done a first read already of Angeliki's book and my gosh, this was a gem (credits to Elisabeth!)!! I got so many deep levels of insights/awareness and am so grateful that I was given this beautiful gift. Thank you WB and Wome for these posts, because this was (amongst other concepts) indeed a true eye opener to me. It is this daily oscillation that keeps us imprisoned in this body and onto this planet. By finding a balance between all opposites we can indeed detach ourselves from those dipoles. This is soooooo important to me! I will do a second read shortly, because this is the only way for me to get deeper insights in parts I read but didn't catch immediately. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 4:10:22 GMT
I have read the entire book once. The first thing i have to ask when reading anything in the external now a days is does it strengthen or bring me closer or encourage to develop a relationship with your true family line or spiritual DNA that can never be corrupted? To go to my parents for everything to become closer to your family WTITHIN? Family meaning: We true seeds or children of the Father and Mother through Jesus Christ our older brother/sister. So as with any knowledge or wisdom in this external world we need to be carful because although it may contain many truths if maintaining and strengthening this connection directly to and from the Father and Mother through Jesus Christ (our real identity and family) is not the core message then it could very well be a distraction. As long as we are inviting our parents along for the ride I feel no harm in learning more details about how this matrix came to be and what the collective truth is when putting together the puzzle pieces especially the way Ageliki described this insightful detailed and extensive book. I learned from Panellas books a simple but effect practice of trying to feel which spirit it was coming from was: Spirit of life (fruits of the spirit which I can personally still say has not once failed me when using them) or the sprit of death of the fallen fruits. I also learned another important thing which was that FATH IS A POWER THAT WE CAN USE AND ALWAYS WORKS WHEN PLUGGED IN! DOUBT CONFUSION, FEAR IS THE SPIRIT IF THE ANTICHRIST AND THE QUICKEST WAY TO UNPLUG YOURSELF FROM THE POWER OF FAITH. For example Ive been trying to get my brother to read Panella's books for so long to the point we would get into arguments at times and if I asked myself what spirit I had in be I would say it would be one of fear. Fear that: If he doesn't read them he may not make it out this cycle and have to be "replanted". Fear that without this information specifically via the books that he will remain lost and confuse and won't develop them grow a connection the the Father and mother without them. It was soon I realized that I was not using/plugged into FAITH! I lost sight that spiritually I am but an infant and was doing this all on my own without the help or intervention of my parents within. I had no faith that if i prayed and came to my parents with this problem that I can have faith that they will answer my prayer with modification that is usually better that i even intended int he first place. This is how fear and doubt unplugs you form the eternal fact that with the backing of your spiritual family you will be taken care of no matter what the body goes through. There is true POWER in this!! We receive answers to every question we ask of them!! They love to see us happy and want us to learn about the situation we are in as souls inside a programmed bodies and a programmed reality but the only way to be sure we do not lose that connection and invite fear doubt and confusion is to invite them in every aspect of your life and invite modifications from them to your life. Without this spiritual backing and grounding of your family (Father Mother through Jesus Christ) exposure and wandering into the rabbit hole of conspiracies (I think we all here know what I mean) can cause more confusion, fear and doubt as opposed to the spirit of life which you will know by its fruits. Without this grounding and backing that can only come from your internal connection and interaction with your father and mother vie faith and especially prayer (which is direct communication from them no middleman!) exposure to the truths of life and even what may happen in the future regarding the harvest can cause doubt fear confusion and depression once one truly realizes the enormity of the situation we are in and the trauma that goes along with it as well as from existing in the fallen programs and avatars.The connection back to the spirit of your parents should help with this at least it has for me. Now when I think about all the trauma going on here (possibly very well as I'm writing this) and negativity and fear and doubt and confusion going on I no longer have to go though this alone and it no longer fills me with fear doubt and confusion. Instead I can pray for them and share my feeling with my parents within and that makes all of the difference. One red flag at least for me: I still don't know what to think of Angelikis hypothesis that the truelight or souls that choose or don't wake up and take part in the great death are S*it out of luck so to speak and will not return back to the Fater and Mother. I know for a fact if you are a true child your soul can never die and is everlasting but maybe I am reading this wrong but it gave me the feeling of doubt and confusion. I am not sure if this would be the right thread but I would love to discussed the comparisons or contradictions one may or may not have when looking at both Panella's books and Angeliki's. I definitely have more to share on this and would love to hear what you all think! I am so thankful to my Father and Mother (and more to my self for listening) to their suggestion to get in this forum tonight. I love you all my family! Prayers to you and yours. Until next time  |
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Post by ML on Sept 27, 2018 4:47:00 GMT
I have read the entire book once. The first thing i have to ask when reading anything in the external now a days is does it strengthen or bring me closer or encourage to develop a relationship with your true family line or spiritual DNA that can never be corrupted? To go to my parents for everything to become closer to your family WTITHIN? Family meaning: We true seeds or children of the Father and Mother through Jesus Christ our older brother/sister. So as with any knowledge or wisdom in this external world we need to be carful because although it may contain many truths if maintaining and strengthening this connection directly to and from the Father and Mother through Jesus Christ (our real identity and family) is not the core message then it could very well be a distraction. As long as we are inviting our parents along for the ride I feel no harm in learning more details about how this matrix came to be and what the collective truth is when putting together the puzzle pieces especially the way Ageliki described this insightful detailed and extensive book. I learned from Panellas books a simple but effect practice of trying to feel which spirit it was coming from was: Spirit of life (fruits of the spirit which I can personally still say has not once failed me when using them) or the sprit of death of the fallen fruits. I also learned another important thing which was that FATH IS A POWER THAT WE CAN USE AND ALWAYS WORKS WHEN PLUGGED IN! DOUBT CONFUSION, FEAR IS THE SPIRIT IF THE ANTICHRIST AND THE QUICKEST WAY TO UNPLUG YOURSELF FROM THE POWER OF FAITH. For example Ive been trying to get my brother to read Panella's books for so long to the point we would get into arguments at times and if I asked myself what spirit I had in be I would say it would be one of fear. Fear that: If he doesn't read them he may not make it out this cycle and have to be "replanted". Fear that without this information specifically via the books that he will remain lost and confuse and won't develop them grow a connection the the Father and mother without them. It was soon I realized that I was not using/plugged into FAITH! I lost sight that spiritually I am but an infant and was doing this all on my own without the help or intervention of my parents within. I had no faith that if i prayed and came to my parents with this problem that I can have faith that they will answer my prayer with modification that is usually better that i even intended int he first place. This is how fear and doubt unplugs you form the eternal fact that with the backing of your spiritual family you will be taken care of no matter what the body goes through. There is true POWER in this!! We receive answers to every question we ask of them!! They love to see us happy and want us to learn about the situation we are in as souls inside a programmed bodies and a programmed reality but the only way to be sure we do not lose that connection and invite fear doubt and confusion is to invite them in every aspect of your life and invite modifications from them to your life. Without this spiritual backing and grounding of your family (Father Mother through Jesus Christ) exposure and wandering into the rabbit hole of conspiracies (I think we all here know what I mean) can cause more confusion, fear and doubt as opposed to the spirit of life which you will know by its fruits. Without this grounding and backing that can only come from your internal connection and interaction with your father and mother vie faith and especially prayer (which is direct communication from them no middleman!) exposure to the truths of life and even what may happen in the future regarding the harvest can cause doubt fear confusion and depression once one truly realizes the enormity of the situation we are in and the trauma that goes along with it as well as from existing in the fallen programs and avatars.The connection back to the spirit of your parents should help with this at least it has for me. Now when I think about all the trauma going on here (possibly very well as I'm writing this) and negativity and fear and doubt and confusion going on I no longer have to go though this alone and it no longer fills me with fear doubt and confusion. Instead I can pray for them and share my feeling with my parents within and that makes all of the difference. AGREED! 100% One red flag at least for me: I still don't know what to think of Angelikis hypothesis that the truelight or souls that choose or don't wake up and take part in the great death are S*it out of luck so to speak and will not return back to the Fater and Mother. I know for a fact if you are a true child your soul can never die and is everlasting but maybe I am reading this wrong but it gave me the feeling of doubt and confusion. I am not sure if this would be the right thread but I would love to discussed the comparisons or contradictions one may or may not have when looking at both Panella's books and Angeliki's. I definitely have more to share on this and would love to hear what you all think! I am so thankful to my Father and Mother (and more to my self for listening) to their suggestion to get in this forum tonight. I love you all my family! Prayers to you and yours. Until next time for everybody's consideration i guess. The SOUL is just a garment like the physical body. it is not us but a part of us while 'manifested' in the universe created by Yahweh. I am just halfway thru the book i am not sure if she meant the 'soul' or the spirit. BECAUSE in the TRUEST SENSE WE ARE SPIRITS AND NOT SOULS. US/ We are : 1. SPIRITS : we came dowN and PARTICIPATED with the INTENTION of HELPING a BROTHER/SISTER( who deviated from our PARENT) and his KIDS. 2. SOUL : We wear this like a dress in the MATERIAL UNIVERSE. it is made of the 'BREATH' of the creator ( indivisible) and the same compound that made the material universe ( divisible).... there are other SOUL's that do not have spirit.. these are the CHILDREN of the CREATOR. we can call them OTHERS lol. 3. PHYSICAL BODY - Can be like us with DIVINE SPARK(SPIRIT). can be the children of the creator ( OTHERS ) or 3RD SOULLESS robots created by technology. * the WHOLE composition of us (CONSCIOUSNESS) while physically manifested includes the AETHERIC(dark matter),ASTRAL(dark energy) and 2 MENTAL BODIES. I might be wrong but i feel that i am not. and you have a BIG POINT there, so far at page 300+ Angeliki failed to mention that ALL CELESTIAL MEN will GO HOME. Thank you my friend for being here. |
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Post by girlscout on Oct 17, 2018 6:51:31 GMT
P408 is encouraging to me; not all the unseen world is misleading :
On the contrary, true saints –many of whom remain unknown to men–residing in the Higher Mental Plane have the ability to intervene and through the HyperUniverses bring solutions to men. Supreme amongst them is considered to be the Mother of Jesus, Mary.
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Post by girlscout on Oct 17, 2018 7:11:25 GMT
Also this, calms me: p 422:
With every means of power they possess, they try to convince you that through the process of karma you will evolve. At the same time, they have assured you that you will not be free from the reincarnation cycle, if you haven’t previously erased your “negative” karma! This is the greatest deceit, since the very nature of dyadic matter excludes this possibility, as it always strives to maintain a constant balance between oppositions. Thus, if the positive is reinforced at some point, the balance of nature will immediately create a negative of equal size at some other point and vice versa.
[all the beating myself up for being less than perfect?! Like Jessica Rabbit, “I’m not bad, I’m drawn that way”. !!!
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