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Post by ML on Mar 14, 2019 0:28:11 GMT
Let's do this! Your quote was: Wholeness reflects descriptions of love This quote was RANDOM! Well done! You have got 23 out of 27 right so far! Maybe you can make a John V. Panella with your coding skills. "The Father/Mother is entangled in positive reality" hahaha that is so twisted.. let me try If you go Inward The Father/Mother will be there together with your kins
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Post by Ex-Spritruther on Mar 14, 2019 1:10:32 GMT
Let's do this! Your quote was: Wholeness reflects descriptions of love This quote was RANDOM! Well done! You have got 23 out of 27 right so far! Maybe you can make a John V. Panella with your coding skills. "The Father/Mother is entangled in positive reality" hahaha that is so twisted.. let me try If you go Inward The Father/Mother will be there together with your kins Ah Miron, always good at missing the point because he's too busy acting out the charade of being the happy positive ion. The fear core overworried and sparks out ADHD positivities. Maybe it's the kids. Having kids in this woo-field needs extra beliefs within the belief to achieve the standard comfort, to calm the part of the brain that focus on your own offsprings. I guess John provided that, or at least after Wes linked his imaginary dots to John's basic Christianity fantasy.
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Post by ML on Mar 14, 2019 2:30:35 GMT
hahaha that is so twisted.. let me try If you go Inward The Father/Mother will be there together with your kins Ah Miron, always good at missing the point because he's too busy acting out the charade of being the happy positive ion. The fear core overworried and sparks out ADHD positivities. Maybe it's the kids. Having kids in this woo-field needs extra beliefs within the belief to achieve the standard comfort, to calm the part of the brain that focus on your own offsprings. I guess John provided that, or at least after Wes linked his imaginary dots to John's basic Christianity fantasy. haha you completely missed the point. check out Angeliki Agnahostou it will help you keep up... Note: You must complete the BOOK....
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Post by Ex-Spritruther on Mar 14, 2019 7:35:45 GMT
Ah Miron, always good at missing the point because he's too busy acting out the charade of being the happy positive ion. The fear core overworried and sparks out ADHD positivities. Maybe it's the kids. Having kids in this woo-field needs extra beliefs within the belief to achieve the standard comfort, to calm the part of the brain that focus on your own offsprings. I guess John provided that, or at least after Wes linked his imaginary dots to John's basic Christianity fantasy. haha you completely missed the point. check out Angeliki Agnahostou it will help you keep up... Note: You must complete the BOOK.... Reminds me of how flatearthers react when they received an argument: point the skeptic to a Youtube video or a prepared article, problem solved. You pointed me to a whole book without pointing out the point I was hilariously missing. That's not the way to treat a lost soul. Perhaps, it's not because you don't know Angeliki's truth enough to summarize them and help a sleepy lost sheep back to the leftless Divine Home or you are afraid to have your faith reviewed by a skeptic, but because there isn't suppose to be any point in itself, you can't think of any, most of them are almost Deepak and you are embarrassed when you have to present them to someone other than yourself and the "family" that you already mutually enabling. It's a good thing, it means you haven't been nightdreamered. Looking back, most "points" in spiritruth deep-woos are just the same rehashed stories with improvised feel-good/I-am-unique word salads on the plate of loneliness and paranoid, on the table of anger and jealousy, in the house of survival-of-the-fittest, at the planet of the ape - how am I doing? And of course, Quantum Physics, there is always Quantum Physics. Speaking of I-am-unique, I think I found a pattern, maybe it's nothing, but it seems like this forum has a fetish for less-known authors. Maybe the less popular the author is, the more unique you will feel, like a rare collector's items show-off. Maybe because it feels safer to have unpopular authors, no one will bother to debunk them. Maybe it's a truther-fallacy, like the gambler-fallacy, you think the less popular it is, the more truths and rare gems it holds. Or maybe it's merely an old habit started from our good old WPP days. Probably a mixture. Miron, the recent post you made about "duality", read them again, and tell me if you see someone in discomfort tried to re-fill himself of something with such in-your-head gibberish, something that once flirted me and you unkindly with our greed and insecurity, something so tempting, to a point that we are willingly and consciously swallowing the pill of error of logic just to keep it and its promises alive, the promise of one-dimensional eternal happiness, of capital Home, away from the plate and the table and the house and the planet, all that. A human's promise, so crayonic, so lazy.
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Post by ML on Mar 14, 2019 8:28:08 GMT
Noted Ex-Spritruther. If you are not Jim Chan then i would love to witness you two discuss something haha. Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 22:21:05 GMT
I sort of feel that what is coming through to us is beliefs mixed with some truths gathered along the way. This is on the basis of time loops / replay (whatever the case may be). I imagine that the whole Trump thing... and world politics in general is to bring in the next phase (trials and tribulations ?). George Kavassalis seems to think that the Singularity will be a breakaway civilisation... of 500 000 it seems. The video I listened to about the guy who claimed to time travel to 2749 mentioned that there were 500 000 people in the world... that made me chuckle. I can't say that I have read the Divine Secret Garden in its entirety, but I too have my doubts about JP with the V. I felt that he started off on the right track (in my view of course) and then got into the whole true seeds thing, which doesn't gel with my feeling that everything should be inclusive. Of course he could be correct that we have to go through " this" to make sure that the " other" never happens again (if I understand correctly). On whose behalf is my question ? As I mentioned on the other forum it was reading about the "they" connection to ACIM which led me here (in a meandering kind of a way). It definitely has the RA crowd written all over it (in terms of what I see as calling cards), however, it also makes a lot of sense, so maybe hacked. I particularly like the fact that it is inclusive. (RA to me means astral realms... or is it game levels ?).
Rules define life in games (I read that somewhere). Since I was not on the other forum very long, maybe a couple of months before Wes took it down, I am not sure who is the "they" you are referring to. And if you don't mind me asking, who is the Ra crowd you mentioned and what is the "it" which is inclusive? Also what do you mean by "this" and "other"? I know I'm a bit slow, sorry! It's my take that Panella mentioned that all seeds have the choice to go back "Home" and would be welcomed yet that means to detach completely from anything of the 3rd and 4th planes. So to me that is inclusive. It's only a choice of each seed to stay in this "wonderful" world under the rule of its god or to leave it. There is no time limit IMHO. Source doesn't force anyone to choose the true Light over the fake one, it's still free will as I understand it. Thank you Barbara! No you're not slow, I was definitely a bit obscure. I tend to think that because things make sense to me, others will follow what I am saying. Communication flaw. By "they" I meant the PTB, although what I read did not say that the two professors were CIA, just that they had done some consulting related to MK Ultra. In those days when I searched "A Course in Miracles", loads of hits would come up along the lines of ACIM is MK Ultra. I eventually read one, which lead me to Cameron Day's site, which eventually led me here. The Sun God RA, The RA Material aka Law of One, which seems a bit hive mind to me. In the context of a game of forgetting (and then becoming one) and eventually remembering and returning to The One, hive mind or memory complexes (although I am not sure that they are the same thing) might be the way to go, assuming that the game is AI (or similar), but it seems a bit dubious to me. Also a person (not sure how to refer to him) who wrote to Wes Penre referred to himself as Marduk RA. By "it", I meant ACIM is inclusive. Sorry, I was being a bit lazy. By "this" I meant the experience we are going through now. By the "other" I meant "fallen angels"/"God" and "Satan's" world (I think this is along the lines of the terminology Panella uses). My concern is at whose behest do we have to go through this ? I understand what you mean. For myself, I would be more comfortable remembering who I am before blindly trusting, especially when there are dimensions involved. I am, however, open to putting trust in my real creator and not thinking in terms of going anywhere particular. I imagine that the "true seed" is in all and that the rest is illusion.
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Post by girlscout on Mar 15, 2019 13:51:01 GMT
Sigh. The duality of decision is painful. Attempts at answering one question creates 3 more. Each one of us probably should have some kind of path right? Well who is it that walks said path? The real me or the me that thinks it is going somewhere? A path to nowhere maybe? JVP confuses me. He tells us this is not our world yet he is big on the Trump bandwagon. Trumps past is not pretty and the folks he surrounded himself with are being prosecuted as we speak. I give him every right to change (trump) as I hope he would give me but sorry I see no savior figure here. Often folks who decide to teach and lead get caught up in their own ego. This world is a strange place and at this point I cannot have any gurus before me. The mouse only sees the cheese. Not the hand of death that looms over it. No one is perfect. We all have the negatives mixed with the positives. My brother keeps me posted on behind the scenes actions aimed to “get our country back”. Presumably once we do we can address broken treaties and such (like with Native Americans). Q is linked with Trump. Here’s a post that’s encouraging: The Power of Free Thought 3038 Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 12 Mar 2019 - 8:55:14 AM >Decide for yourself (be free from outside opinion). >Decide for yourself (be objective in your conclusions). >Decide for yourself (be true in your own beliefs). >Decide for yourself (be open to following the facts). >Decide for yourself (be strong in defending your beliefs). >Decide for yourself (be resistant to blindly accepting fact-less statements). >Decide for yourself (be free) Those who attack you. Those who mock you. Those who cull you. Those who control you. Those who label you. Do they represent you? Or, do they represent themselves (in some form)? Mental Enslavement. The Great Awakening ('Freedom of Thought’), was designed and created not only as a backchannel to the public (away from the longstanding ‘mind’ control of the corrupt & heavily biased media) to endure future events through transparency and regeneration of individual thought (breaking the chains of ‘group-think’), but, more importantly, aid in the construction of a vehicle (a ‘ship’) that provides the scattered (‘free thinkers’) with a ‘starter’ new social-networking platform which allows for freedom of thought, expression, and patriotism or national pride (the feeling of love, devotion and sense of attachment to a homeland and alliance with other citizens who share the same sentiment). When ‘non-dogmatic’ information becomes FREE & TRANSPARENT it becomes a threat to those who attempt to control the narrative and/or the stable. When you are awake, you stand on the outside of the stable (‘group-think’ collective), and have ‘free thought’. "Free thought" is a philosophical viewpoint which holds that positions regarding truth should be formed on the basis of logic, reason, and empiricism, rather than authority, tradition, revelation, or dogma. When you are awake, you are able to clearly see. The choice is yours, and yours alone. Trust and put faith in yourself. You are not alone and you are not in the minority. Difficult truths will soon see the light of day. WWG1WGA!!! Q
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 22:43:41 GMT
No you're not slow, I was definitely a bit obscure. I tend to think that because things make sense to me, others will follow what I am saying. Communication flaw. By "they" I meant the PTB, although what I read did not say that the two professors were CIA, just that they had done some consulting related to MK Ultra. In those days when I searched "A Course in Miracles", loads of hits would come up along the lines of ACIM is MK Ultra. I eventually read one, which lead me to Cameron Day's site, which eventually led me here. The Sun God RA, The RA Material aka Law of One, which seems a bit hive mind to me. In the context of a game of forgetting (and then becoming one) and eventually remembering and returning to The One, hive mind or memory complexes (although I am not sure that they are the same thing) might be the way to go, assuming that the game is AI (or similar), but it seems a bit dubious to me. Also a person (not sure how to refer to him) who wrote to Wes Penre referred to himself as Marduk RA. By "it", I meant ACIM is inclusive. Sorry, I was being a bit lazy. By "this" I meant the experience we are going through now. By the "other" I meant "fallen angels"/"God" and "Satan's" world (I think this is along the lines of the terminology Panella uses). My concern is at whose behest do we have to go through this ? I understand what you mean. For myself, I would be more comfortable remembering who I am before blindly trusting, especially when there are dimensions involved. I am, however, open to putting trust in my real creator and not thinking in terms of going anywhere particular. I imagine that the "true seed" is in all and that the rest is illusion. Thank you so much for all the explanations Barbara! I appreciate. I was very involved in ACIM from January 2010 till January 2015 give or take a few months. I met quite a few teachers, went to the conferences, to some teachers' workshops, week long stays, etc. It sure helped me understand the ego much better and the forgiveness process. I had read in 2011 a biographical book: "A Course In Miracles: The Lives of Helen Shucman and William Thetford" where the author mentioned that Both Helen and Bill were involved in working for the CIA on a psychological personality test, no mention of MK Ultra though. Now that book is available at an outrageous price of $162.50 on Amazon and that's used, a new one costs $2,500! Wow, I paid maybe $40 for a new one in 2011. Why such an extraordinarily expensive price tag? Did someone try to take it down for some reason? Ken Wapnick went to court and was granted an injunction removing the remarks concerning the CIA mention from the Original ACIM. I had the Wapnick Foundation book plus the original Urtext and another more recent version. I gave them all away in 2016-17. Then your mention of MK Ultra made me research it on the internet and I saw an interesting article of which I copy the link below: inpursuitofhappiness.wordpress.com/2013/12/19/a-course-in-miracles-a-cia-exercise-in-mind-control/It's fascinating, isn't it? Yes, ACIM is inclusive. It states that we can't go home until everyone goes home (not sure how long that would take in linear time which is what we are under at the moment, so thousands more reincarnations, no real awakening, and if most bodies are AI and soulless they can't go back to our true Home, they just disintegrate at death and nothing goes on...) and that it's already done: we are all awaken from our slumber on the other side of the veil yet we can't see it and have to go through the hoops because we are stuck in this illusion. Yeah, how fun! About the Law of One and the RA material, like you I felt that it came straight from the hive mind and completely uninteresting even after I tried to finish it, I wanted to throw up!!! The mention of service to other being equal to the worst offenders of service to self like Gengis Khan and other bloody madmen in history was the last straw. I agree that the word "harvest" which Panella uses and also the phrases: "service to other" versus "service to self" were vocabulary that raised some suspicion in me. Yet I do attribute JVP's use of those concepts to a Bible tendency (seed harvest) and the fact that "the Law of One" is widely available online to anyone researching it. So not too obvious. But again I tend to give the benefit of the doubt to what I really enjoy reading and its author. "At whose behest do we have to go through this?" Well, it's my take that we chose our predicament by being curious and trusting too much the fallen angel Lucifer. We didn't listen to the Source warnings, I guess it's still difficult for most to do that (listening to warnings). So there is a trend there. We are like children lost in a realm that gives us drama and thrills! So at least we are not without help if we so wish to truly leave and our connection to our Source is always available when we are ready and remember it's there. The caveat though is that we need to learn to withdraw all attachments to this world and other dimensions and that's all inclusive, no exception! So it's not easy and after so many lifetimes we have woven attachments galore. It's a very tricky game down here, not one we can easily discard, we are hooked even when we know the truth of how scammed we were. We always hope for the best, that it will get better... eventually. Hahaha! We can' stop playing and that's the only way to win the game. As you can tell I still feel that Panella makes the best points of everything I've read so far and it has been quite a lot. He is loosing ground on the political side and his cherished Trump yet it's my feeling that he has deciphered much of the imbroglio in his work. I still give him credit. It's up to everyone to figure things out for themselves. I am definitely grateful to Panella for his insights into the matrix and I am almost 100% sure that we carry programming along with our divine connection. ACIM and JVP actually have a lot in common. They both refer to Christ and they both, in a sense, refer to reprogramming. Where they diverge is that ACIM indicates that our connection to God is via the Holy Spirit and the vision of Christ (Christian terminology), whereas Panella indicates that we should connect to Father/Mother and of course ACIM refers to a dream or illusion and Panella refers to a matrix. I worked with ACIM in the early to mid 90s and have often referred back to it over the years. I read the whole of the workbook and the manual, but did not finish doing the lessons because at a certain point I was not connecting with them, or perhaps more correctly at that time, I was not committed to that path. I have a tendency to take what resonates with me and add it to my own thinking. When I quote ACIM I am quoting bits that come to mind in the context of what is coming up for me. Funnily enough I also gave mine away after I heard about the MK Ultra connection, but what it says can't really be faulted (for the most part), although I do think it is a bit hard on the old ego. The issue of the one is interesting. In the game of forgetting and remembering we would be one as we would be microcosms (or thought forms) of one creator or an individuated aspect of one creator, however, we might actually be individuated sparks of source consciousness having an interactive experience. Whatever the case may be, in the program we are in now, we would appear to be connected at the level of the programming, so I guess if one came to a realisation it might filter through to the rest... unless it went against the intent of the program. By the same token, if we are microcosms of one creator, the same should apply, although the programming could be an interfering factor. I guess it depends on the intent of those running the program.
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Post by ML on Mar 18, 2019 7:19:30 GMT
The All - Seeing Eye
It has been staring at you for your entire life, why is this knowledge unknown? The all seeing eye is that orb you witness every day that looks upon the planet. - The Sun has often been associated with God. He looks upon the earth, and gives it power to increase. Without the sun nothing would live. Everything we have is given its power by the sun. And therefore the ancients used to worship and venerate the sun as God...
The Christian rite known as Easter comes from the veneration of the Sun, as it rises in the morning from he East it is then worshiped. Many try to parallel this with Christ, as the risen SUN/SON. In truth it has nothing to do with Christ. Easter comes from the female deity from the land of the ancient Mesopotamia named, Ishtar. The Queen of Heaven or the universe.
Ishtar, (Akkadian), Sumerian Inanna, in Mesopotamian religion, was the goddess of sexual love and war, very close to good and evil. Ishtar is the Akkadian counterpart of the West Semitic goddess Astarte. Inanna, an important goddess in the Sumerian pantheon, came to be identified with Ishtar, but it is uncertain whether Inanna is also of Semitic origin or whether, as is more likely, her similarity to Ishtar caused the two to be identified. In the figure of Inanna several traditions seem to have been combined: she is sometimes the daughter of the sky god An.
In other myths she is the daughter of Nanna, god of the moon. AN is the Sumerian Anu of the Annunaki. She was also known as the daughter of the wind god, Enlil Anu's Son. In her earliest manifestations she was associated with the storehouse and thus personified as the goddess of dates, wool, meat, and grain; the storehouse gates were her emblem. She was also the goddess of rain and thunderstorms—leading to her association with An, the sky god—and was often pictured with the lion, whose roar resembled thunder.
Ishtar’s primary legacy from the Sumerian tradition is the role of fertility figure; she evolved, however, into a more complex character, surrounded in myth by death and disaster, a goddess of contradictory connotations and forces (Good and Evil) —fire and fire-quenching, rejoicing and tears, fair play and enmity.
The Akkadian Ishtar is also, to a greater extent, an astral deity, falsely associated with the planet Venus. With Shamash, the sun god, and Sin, the moon god, she forms a secondary astral triad. In this manifestation her symbol is a star with 6, 8, or 16 rays within a circle.
As goddess of Venus, delighting in bodily love, Ishtar was the protectress of prostitutes and the patroness of the alehouse. Part of her cult worship probably included temple prostitution. Her popularity was universal in the ancient Middle East, and in many centers of worship she probably subsumed numerous local goddesses. In later myth she was known as Queen of the Universe, taking on the powers of An, Enlil, and Enki.
Ishtar was not any Goddess, she was much more important, and thus later it was interpreted that she was the SUN. She had the power of An, Enki and Enlil combined, of the Sumerian tradition. Ishtar was then revamped as Easter in pagan christian literature, as the fertility god. And thus this is where we get our Rabbits and Easter Eggs all representing fertility and procreation.
But who really was Ishtar? And why the symbol of the all seeing eye? Ishtar was falsely associated with Venus. Venus has been falsely associated with the shining star of the Dawn, both are inaccurate. The Shining star of the Dawn or Morning Star is and always has been the Sun. Our sun is the local version of the Stars we view in space, Venus was simply a counterpart.
Thus at dawn on Easter, the sun is worshiped rising from the East., thus Ishtar became Easter all representing the Sun in the East. Obviously Ishtar was very powerful, and she only played roles as the wife or daughter of the earth gods, but in reality, she was the God of all Gods, the fertility god, the Mother of creation whom had separated from her 'husband or dual other half' in the great rebellion.
Ishtar was Lucifer, whose name means, Morning Star. Lucifer is the god that reigns in the heavens, looking down upon the earth giving life and death to the occupants of the earth. Therefore we must ask, what is the SUN. It is a gateway portal into the 4th dimension, it is also a projector.
In my books I revealed how our eyes are the tools that are needed to make the holographic projection come alive, to be witnessed. Our eyes are the mirror to the soul if one has a soul, however they are also the mirror of the 4th dimension. The sun is like the main lens of the projector that is creating the illusory holographic universe out of the 4th dimension to be seen using the mirrors, our eyes, which reveal the 3rd dimension.
Thus Lucifer/Ishtar is the projector or EYE of all things, or the ALL-SEEING EYE.
Next I will discuss the pyramid as the symbolic jail or four-walled prison also known as the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thus we are being ruled from the god above or the All-Seeing Eye as the capstone upon the pyramid ruling above all, always waiting for the capstone to be set on Earth as God returns to Earth to rule, for 1000-years.
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