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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 14:53:52 GMT
I stopped watching TV 15 years ago... It's nothing but paid propaganda.
I stopped having "friends" 10 years ago... Realized, nobody really cared about me.
I stopped going out 5 years ago... It's just useless noise.
I stopped watching movies 3 years ago... I watched all pre-2000 movies, and there is nothing made since then for people with some taste and half a brain...
I stopped watching youtube a year ago... Google just killed all small channels, the free speech channels, anyone that basically had anything to say. It's now the same as MSM, but for the kids...
I was in hikikomori mode for 3 years, and at the end of 2019, I made my return to "civilization" (or what's left of it). I.e. I got at least a job. Making some FIAT, some digits in the banking account, so I can buy some shit. It's not a big change, I just sit in front of a monitor for 8-9 hours. Instead of doing this at home and feel sorry for myself, I now go to a corporate building and feel sorry for myself. It's a subtle difference, but... ok, I have nothing... I can't be hikikomori if I have a job, right?
I went to the city center today. It was surreal experience... When I was a child, I had this epiphany, that I'm in a game, like in the Matrix (but this was before the movie, and before even I started with computers). When I go outside now, it's like plugging into the Matrix. Like I literally read it's code, see how fake it is... It's hard to believe I felt "normal" even for while, and I believed at least "something" was real. It's like everything is scripted and you walk through this endless string of people, playing the game of guessing what kind of program they are executing currently. I don't even ask myself whether this is real, but just wondering, what is the next part of this bad movie script. When I try to take part of it, it comes out just as bad, and as fake. Like this episode in the Matrix, where agents Smith asked Neo: "What good is a phone call if you are unable to speak?". What good is a soul in a soulless world? Everyone just plays the game, since nobody knows better... I know better however, how about not playing the game... How about turning the button off... All of them... One by one...
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Post by girlscout on Dec 14, 2019 19:51:10 GMT
I stopped watching TV 15 years ago... It's nothing but paid propaganda. I stopped having "friends" 10 years ago... Realized, nobody really cared about me. I stopped going out 5 years ago... It's just useless noise. I stopped watching movies 3 years ago... I watched all pre-2000 movies, and there is nothing made since then for people with some taste and half a brain... I stopped watching youtube a year ago... Google just killed all small channels, the free speech channels, anyone that basically had anything to say. It's now the same as MSM, but for the kids... I was in hikikomori mode for 3 years, and at the end of 2019, I made my return to "civilization" (or what's left of it). I.e. I got at least a job. Making some FIAT, some digits in the banking account, so I can buy some shit. It's not a big change, I just sit in front of a monitor for 8-9 hours. Instead of doing this at home and feel sorry for myself, I now go to a corporate building and feel sorry for myself. It's a subtle difference, but... ok, I have nothing... I can't be hikikomori if I have a job, right? I went to the city center today. It was surreal experience... When I was a child, I had this epiphany, that I'm in a game, like in the Matrix (but this was before the movie, and before even I started with computers). When I go outside now, it's like plugging into the Matrix. Like I literally read it's code, see how fake it is... It's hard to believe I felt "normal" even for while, and I believed at least "something" was real. It's like everything is scripted and you walk through this endless string of people, playing the game of guessing what kind of program they are executing currently. I don't even ask myself whether this is real, but just wondering, what is the next part of this bad movie script. When I try to take part of it, it comes out just as bad, and as fake. Like this episode in the Matrix, where agents Smith asked Neo: "What good is a phone call if you are unable to speak?". What good is a soul in a soulless world? Everyone just plays the game, since nobody knows better... I know better however, how about not playing the game... How about turning the button off... All of them... One by one... Hello interim. I am struck by this: “I stopped having "friends" 10 years ago... Realized, nobody really cared about me.”. I have much luck breaking out of that mood when I seek something to do for others. Have you tried that? maybe something like this could help: adultchildren.org/wp-content/uploads/Literature/ACA_Sponsorship_Fellow_Traveler_EN-US_LTR.pdf
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 8:41:53 GMT
Yeah I mean watching movies and videos isn't exactly the greatest I dun really like it when ppl expect me to have seen every movie out blah ofc there are some good ones but I get kinda bored and I can't always relate to the characters. My parents were never that big into going to the cinema and movies and that. I also dislike the fact that a lot of conversation is around popular culture I don't follow and I prefer something a bit more intellectual. And yep a lot of going out activities are just socialisation over alcohol. I dun mind some of the art gallery stuff or the cultural events. But it mostly gets boring after a while and I don't drink. And bowling and weird stuff like that eh.
Have you tried activities like hiking or mountain climbing these are fun things for someone alone i think. Or nature activities generally are pretty good, survival skills or bird watching or making things out of wood that kind of thing. Nature has more reality to it than say a artificially constructed city.
As for having friends it's not strictly necessary. But I think it's nice to talk to people then and again at least (although im quite social so I prefer more than that). Even if it is the kinda fake interaction with someone in a shop or just a chat with your neighbour or family. But if u do the right activities or things u may meet people who are nice or not so it's worth being open to things.
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Post by ML on Dec 16, 2019 0:48:59 GMT
Yeah I mean watching movies and videos isn't exactly the greatest I dun really like it when ppl expect me to have seen every movie out blah ofc there are some good ones but I get kinda bored and I can't always relate to the characters. My parents were never that big into going to the cinema and movies and that. I also dislike the fact that a lot of conversation is around popular culture I don't follow and I prefer something a bit more intellectual. And yep a lot of going out activities are just socialisation over alcohol. I dun mind some of the art gallery stuff or the cultural events. But it mostly gets boring after a while and I don't drink. And bowling and weird stuff like that eh. Have you tried activities like hiking or mountain climbing these are fun things for someone alone i think. Or nature activities generally are pretty good, survival skills or bird watching or making things out of wood that kind of thing. Nature has more reality to it than say a artificially constructed city. As for having friends it's not strictly necessary. But I think it's nice to talk to people then and again at least (although im quite social so I prefer more than that). Even if it is the kinda fake interaction with someone in a shop or just a chat with your neighbour or family. But if u do the right activities or things u may meet people who are nice or not so it's worth being open to things. I have no TV at home It takes great perseverance for me to hold off my wife and kids to subscribe to the cable network again .. i dont think we will ever subscribe again.. My take: I would watch if i feel like watching something.. there might be a new insight from a new movie. remember the TPTSNB needs to inform the masses. If you are done being programmed and manipulated then take advantage of the message if you feel like it. Thanks
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Post by Henrik on Dec 18, 2019 9:12:42 GMT
Yeah, if everything else fails, bond with nature, at least some purity of sorts left there
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 17:18:38 GMT
"I have much luck breaking out of that mood when I seek something to do for others. "
I often have this issue with people, especially females. People don't really grasp what I say. The words are there, but the meaning is just missing in the mind. I don't have a "mood", I'm a grown up person, I actually know for a fact that people are egoists that pretent to like you, only if they can gain something from you. Sometimes, they don't even realize it, sometimes they fully understand their behavior, but just don't know any better. I'm a male, poor, comming from a failed single mom "family", so I never had the benefit of having a lot of friends and to be generally liked. But the few "friends" I had, and I thought were worthy... until of course, the innevitable stab in the back or just ignore, since you are not as important as their "other friends".
It's typical for the human brain to try "fixing" the situaion by projecting the issue onto itself... since you are the only thing you can conotrol. However, more ofthen it's not about you, this is just how the world works. Actually this is known psychological issue with children, that blame themselves for their parents divorce for example. So, no it's not my "mood", it's just what humans are.
"Yeah, if everything else fails, bond with nature, at least some purity of sorts left there" Nope... nature is just another level of illusion. Nature doesn't care about you... at all. And IMO, this is better then humans. Humans are not even animals, it's difficult to tell what they are. Maybe an alien experiment... But nature itself is empty movement. Nothing more. I still prefer it, but this is not how we live nowadays.
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Post by Henrik on Jan 6, 2020 9:47:51 GMT
Disclaimer: this turned into a rant as usual. Point is there is no point, only direction, and this comes from within and can only be set by yourself. Usually a depressing "point" for most people. I help myself with poor jokes, lol.
Nature cares as much about you as it does for anything else, but at least it won't snipe at you or play favorites :-P At least it seems to be relatively neutral, considering the dyadic nature of everything, and that is a good platform as any to regain some footing.
Sure, it may very well be an illusion, but in that case everything is an illusion, and you will either be fine with that, or have to make some kind of "meaningful" connection in this illusion we live in anyway, like most people and myself. The "meaning" here is in itself pointless, the point is to possess a certain belief/faith/demeanor or whatever in "something"/love/nature/consciousness/yourself/someone else or whatever so that you will not color your glasses in red or blue and let YOU decide what direction to take in order to uplift yourself.
The "meaning" here is wholly inferred by you for your own sustenance. So forget nature, if you like, the point is meaning comes from within. Just find a footing somewhere to regain a semi-neutral stance from which you can point out a direction that makes sense to you and build from there. Because in the end your journey is all about you. It is only about consciousness, YOUR consciousness, however selfish that may seem. Seeing as all consciousness is related or perhaps even a single consciousness, it is at the very least connected. Thus everything is one, holy cheesus.
We need certain illusions in order to exist because everything is an illusion, there is no way around it. Our very senses are themselves creating our innerscape illusions out of abstract energies. Everyone are themselves the closest, that is just the way of consciousness. If you keep looking for ways the world and people may disappoint you you will never cease to be downtrodden, it is the the very nature of things, or more simply it is nature. There is truth to the age-old meme; there is no such thing as a non-selfish act. But seeing as the world is trying to fit everything into black and white boxes, we must overcome this and be fine with the dualistic wave-motion of everything, including the petty movements of people crossing our paths, and our own petty thoughts and actions. Meaning must be derived from certain motions and movements which gets you closer to your goal, whatever that is. Somewhere inside of each of us is that spark that generates consciousness and it has a direction, or want or base drive or whatever, which is not biologically driven. This is the grail of cheesiness. "God" is not without humour.
The cheesiness of it all becomes evident sooner or later for everyone, because eventually we all get to the point where subjectivity must provide the answers. In the end we all live in our own little bubble and it matters not whatever the world or anyone in it does (wrote first dies, the tried to correct and wrote dios), the motion must come from within. It certainly can be frustrating, and I certainly have no solid answers to give you, only more cheesus.
Edit: I really should stop listening to Watts, this rant seems a Watterized throwback.
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Post by ML on Jan 6, 2020 10:28:32 GMT
Disclaimer: this turned into a rant as usual. Point is there is no point, only direction, and this comes from within and can only be set by yourself. Usually a depressing "point" for most people. I help myself with poor jokes, lol. Nature cares as much about you as it does for anything else, but at least it won't snipe at you or play favorites :-P At least it seems to be relatively neutral, considering the dyadic nature of everything, and that is a good platform as any to regain some footing. Sure, it may very well be an illusion, but in that case everything is an illusion, and you will either be fine with that, or have to make some kind of "meaningful" connection in this illusion we live in anyway, like most people and myself. The "meaning" here is in itself pointless, the point is to possess a certain belief/faith/demeanor or whatever in "something"/love/nature/consciousness/yourself/someone else or whatever so that you will not color your glasses in red or blue and let YOU decide what direction to take in order to uplift yourself. The "meaning" here is wholly inferred by you for your own sustenance. So forget nature, if you like, the point is meaning comes from within. Just find a footing somewhere to regain a semi-neutral stance from which you can point out a direction that makes sense to you and build from there. Because in the end your journey is all about you. It is only about consciousness, YOUR consciousness, however selfish that may seem. Seeing as all consciousness is related or perhaps even a single consciousness, it is at the very least connected. Thus everything is one, holy cheesus. We need certain illusions in order to exist because everything is an illusion, there is no way around it. Our very senses are themselves creating our innerscape illusions out of abstract energies. Everyone are themselves the closest, that is just the way of consciousness. If you keep looking for ways the world and people may disappoint you you will never cease to be downtrodden, it is the the very nature of things, or more simply it is nature. There is truth to the age-old meme; there is no such thing as a non-selfish act. But seeing as the world is trying to fit everything into black and white boxes, we must overcome this and be fine with the dualistic wave-motion of everything, including the petty movements of people crossing our paths, and our own petty thoughts and actions. Meaning must be derived from certain motions and movements which gets you closer to your goal, whatever that is. Somewhere inside of each of us is that spark that generates consciousness and it has a direction, or want or base drive or whatever, which is not biologically driven. This is the grail of cheesiness. "God" is not without humour. The cheesiness of it all becomes evident sooner or later for everyone, because eventually we all get to the point where subjectivity must provide the answers. In the end we all live in our own little bubble and it matters not whatever the world or anyone in it does (wrote first dies, the tried to correct and wrote dios), the motion must come from within. It certainly can be frustrating, and I certainly have no solid answers to give you, only more cheesus. Edit: I really should stop listening to Watts, this rant seems a Watterized throwback. Has Miles Mathis ever mentioned Allan Watts in any of his articles? Thanks Henrik!
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Post by ML on Jan 6, 2020 10:30:45 GMT
TV as in television set I have not watched in a long long time.....
Computer monitors= another thing.
Streaming is the new TV programming.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 14:13:33 GMT
Edit: I really should stop listening to Watts, this rant seems a Watterized throwback. Ha Endall Beall is not a fan of Watts. I think Watts is not so much part of any system of illusion but is part of a system of delusion.
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Post by girlscout on Jan 6, 2020 14:25:49 GMT
Edit: I really should stop listening to Watts, this rant seems a Watterized throwback. Ha Endall Beall is not a fan of Watts. I think Watts is not so much part of any system of illusion but is part of a system of delusion. Interesting that Endall also refers to “believing something you have to” to be a warrior - that feels similar to me to “is making our own meaning” whether it comes from Watts, or Henrik. ; )
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