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Post by ray on Nov 15, 2019 16:21:32 GMT
Textbook times which many of the mainstream are still "stuck in" had an extremely simplified view of the past.
1. Columbus discovered America 2. Civilizations began in the Tigris/Europhrates Valley at about 5,000 BC. 3. Man was created through the Adam and Eve story in the Bible OR man was a chance development of natural evolution.
There was more evidence to disprove the above, than there was to support those unsubstatiated views.
Barry Fell, Frank Joseph, and several others for example proved that ALL the civilizations in Europe and Asia before the time of Columbus were also IN North and South America
DNA, genetics and new dating systems proved that past dating including radio carbon were and are completely unreliable. the '5,000 BC civilization date' has been backed up to 50,000 BC. and location-wise moved to North Carolina, temporarily because there is evidence that it will be backed up even further.
What destroys number 3 is that if either Adam and Eve creation or scientific evolution were true it would require the RESULT to be a small population of humans restricted to Earth as opposed to billions and trillions of people in the immediate solar system and further out into the galaxy and universe.
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Post by ray on Nov 15, 2019 18:40:01 GMT
DEFINING HUMAN
The next step is to define human which is easier said than done.
The dolphin and the whale are HIGHER on the evolutionary scale than man. A dolphin for example can have half it's brain in sleep mode while it it actively hunting fish to eat.
Man requires more water to survive than any other animal.
Reptilians from the 4th dimension require human blood and flesh to survive.
What is the difference between man/human and intelligent life?
Is susquatch a lower level human or a higher level primate?
Which is closer to human: an aquatic ape that can swim as strongly as a fish or a primate that cannot swim at all?
What does a hybrid ET reptilian mixed with an human EQUAL by definition?
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Post by ML on Nov 16, 2019 1:46:34 GMT
Human
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Hue-man
as i see it
Hue = color
Man = Celestial creation a spiritual wholeness, JVP's True seeds Angeliki's Celestial man
a bad seed is not a man. they are the children of Satan or Lucifer
man was given dominion over the earth upon creation.
the biological vessel is not the man.
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Post by ray on Nov 16, 2019 2:17:34 GMT
Terrestrial and Extra-Terrestrial Life
The original scientific thought was your body evolved according to the environment that you needed to survive in. Textbooks suggested that air, water, and food were the absolute necessities for everyone. It was also suggested that all earthlings looked like all humans as in with the characteristics of a primate: 2 hands, 2 legs, head, face, eyes, ears, etc.
What messed up these assumptions was contact with ETs which proved to be as short as 2 feet tall (like pixie legends) and as tall as 25 feet tall, "hands" with different numbers of fingers, or claws and wings for flying. Even further was shape-shifting reptilians with arms and legs and mental telepathy and insectoids that look like 10 foot tall insects, also with mental telepathy.
Life expectancy went all the way to thousands of years, and is subject to change through genetic engineering.
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Post by ray on Nov 17, 2019 19:56:24 GMT
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Post by ray on Nov 18, 2019 2:45:48 GMT
REPTILIANS
Apparently the reptilians (bipedal, roughly human shape, varying heights, etc.) came to earth from the constellation of Draco. They lived on the surface of Earth between 200 million and 65 million years ago. They came from the fourth dimension and need blood and human flesh to stay here. Their lifespan is over 400 years.
On their entry into our galaxy, they attacked and enslaved 21 star systems and destroyed 3 planets.
HUMANS
Humankind lived in the Lyra constellation for 40 million years and peaceably colonized other worlds. When they came to our system, they colonized Mars and Maldek (which became the asteroid belt.)
On earth the reptilians colonized Lemuria in the Pacific ocean and brought their dinosaurs with them as food.
Large quantities of green glass and isotopes found in the Middle East and Death Valley US provided evidence of the use of nuclear weapons in those areas
The Lyran humans sent a fierce refugee race to Earth called the Atlans to fight against the reptilians and they colonized ATLANTIS in the Atlantic Ocean.
Using magnetic pulse weapons, the Atlans sent most of Lemuria to the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. The refugees went underground in the Gobi desert area, India, Potala, Tibet and Antarctica etc.
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Post by ray on Nov 18, 2019 19:06:20 GMT
ANTARCTICA
There were huge caverns, tunnels, and grottoes in the ice which were caused and warmed up by 91 volcanoes, more than anywhere else on earth. Average temperature 2 miles and 4 miles below the ice at Lake Vostok is 70 degrees Fahrenheit
One reptile group stayed under Antarctica. Another stayed in the tunnel area going out from Tibet. Still another blew up Maldek creating the asteroid belt and tore off the atmosphere of Mars.
Atlantis was sunk, possibly by earthquake activity and the Atlans went to Egypt, the Mediterranean, Central and South America.
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Post by ray on Nov 27, 2019 16:58:33 GMT
The Orion War continued between the Draco Reptilians who came from the fourth dimension to conquer and colonize planets in our dimension and the Lyran-Vegans and Atlans who were Caucasians but taller than earthlings.
The Gallactic Federation was formed from those planets who rebelled against their Draco/Reptilian rulers such as Andromeda, Pleiades, Procyon, Tau Ceti, Alpha Centuri, Epsilon Eridani. Some reptilian civilizations also joined the Federation to escape Draco rule.
What would complicate any generalizations that one might make about ET races is the creation of hybrid: mixed races, genetic engineering and ET races that may look the same but are from planets that are light years away from each other and therefore are quite different in values, personalities, spirituality etc.
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Post by ray on Nov 28, 2019 19:52:42 GMT
When one gets into researching Venus, confusion reigns. Venus has been called a planet that was supposedly formed like the others. Dr. Velikovsky however in Worlds In Collision called Venus a comet that came sufficiently close to start orbitting around our sun. It was also referred to as an ice comet. The latest find supposedly is that the surface of Venus is hot enough to melt lead. The apparent contradiction is that a Venusian: Valiant Thor worked at the Pentagon for 3 years. His appearance was that of a normal Caucasion which makes one wonder how he survived on Venus. Raco reptillians have somehow managed to build 7 domes on Venus for living purposes too.
The last super question is HOW Mercury which is closer to the Sun than Venus, have ICE in its polar regions.
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Post by ray on Nov 30, 2019 2:42:05 GMT
In order to understand the history of mankind, one must be able to put historical events in some order and assess their impact on the present and the future. Unfortunately archaeologists and historians have kept it all too simple for too long and as a consequence drastically warped past, present, and future reality.
There are trillions of planets in our galaxy, trillions of galaxies in our universes and trillions of examples of intelligent life in every size, shape and form imaginable. Intelligent races however do NOT have the same values, ethics, kindness, empathy, spirit, disposition, loyalty, committment,
Dating ancient historical events has become next to impossible. Apparently there was NO intelligent life on earth when the first reptillians arrived. The moon was brought in from the fourth dimension and parked in a circular orbit around earth. It was also hollowed out to serve as a moon base for the reptilians.
The pyramids were built before the Egyptians arrived as well as world-wide before the Mayans, Aztec, Incas, Bosnians North and South Americans, etc. Even the moon and mars have pyramids.
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Post by ray on Dec 8, 2019 19:34:10 GMT
Although governments have been trying to cover up the presence -- past and present of ETs, among the challenges they have faced....
1. susquatch from off our planet 2. our artificial moon with buildings, towers, and pyramids that was parked there thousands of years ago 3. the live red haired giant found in Northern Iraq in the last decade. 4. remains of buildings on Mercury, 7 domes on Venus, 5. underground cities on Mars 6. E.T. refugee bases in New Mexico, Antarctica, Death Valley, Mt. Shasta, Tibet, and other not so visible sights. 7. ET species found under the ice in Antarctica in STASIS (potentially alive) including ancient pre-adamites (25,000 BC), Mound Builders 25 feet tall, Maldekians from our moon and the asteroid belt. possibly descendents from the original Lyrans of several million years ago. 8. Then there have been the military encounters and atrocities by ETs that occured in Southeast Asia.
These are only a few small samples of the problems created by ETs.
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Post by ray on Dec 18, 2019 20:04:26 GMT
Archaeology has been messed up POLITICS
The emphasis at the academic level at University has always been to perpetuate existing theory irregardless of strong evidence to the contrary. They have arbitrarily used time lines and dating to distort truth and accuracy.
The Columbus discovered America and the Bering Strait theory almost obtained biblical reverence. As one professor put it:"IF we accept current proof that these theories are wrong, we will have to RE-WRITE History.
The Columbus theory suggests that Columbus was the first Caucasian to discover America in 1492. The Bering Strait Theory is that there was continental migration between Asia and North America via a landbridge between Northern Asia and Alaska which disappeared at the end of the last Ice Age at 12,000 B.C.
These 2 theories come with a lot of silly assumptions.
1. Before 1492, there were NO civilizations or settlements in North or South America. 2. Before 1492 Europeans, Asians, Celts, Phoenicians, Romans, Greeks, Vikings etc. did not have or use boats to travel to America. 3. Migration to America was via walking across the landbridge from Asia to America
What was true however..
1. Asians did not reach the Pacific coast until the AD period when floods and melting had already drowned the landbridge.
Then there were the civilizations and peoples who should not have already been in America before Columbus arrived or before the landbridge.
1. 10,000 years before Columbus, the Celts discovered America in their long boats. 2. Tiahuanaco was the first city in the world and dates from 40,000 BC, 10,000 years before the supposed Bering Strait landbridge. 3. The Topper site in South Carolina is dated as at least 50,000 BC. 4. The Popul Vuh indicates that the Mexicans came from Europe, long before Columbus
Then there was the findings that were glossed over or suppressed. It was suggested by Coe and others that the Olmec were the first civilization in Central America. They were dated at late BC to early AD period which did not jive date-wise with the "first civilization". Facial features were negroid by race which did not fit with arrival by the landbridge. Lake Titicaca Islands in Bolivia have the oldest mummies in the world along with white skin apparently lighter than the Spanish conquistadors that explored the area. The Inca, Aztecs, and Mayans indicate that their ancestors were white.
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Post by ML on Dec 19, 2019 2:27:29 GMT
not all creatures that we call hue-man are 'real' humans. most are just animal creatures programmed to behave a certain way. and most of them are placed in the upper levels of society; this is done so that policies and government decisions can easily be influenced or forced. I see most of the TV personalities of the mainstream media as just animal creatures or meat robots, they do not have the capability to change their views meaning they cannot alter the programming. because they are just a vehicle that has been programmed. so just imagine what kind of ancient history we have In formations from the mainstream are mostly lies, alternative source are also lies. technically speaking all we can do is speculate. luckily for us , we don't have to look outside of us for info's. we already have it all inside of us. Whatever you are looking for; you can find the answer within you. just trust yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 2:49:22 GMT
not all creatures that we call hue-man are 'real' humans. most are just animal creatures programmed to behave a certain way. and most of them are placed in the upper levels of society; this is done so that policies and government decisions can easily be influenced or forced. I see most of the TV personalities of the mainstream media as just animal creatures or meat robots, they do not have the capability to change their views meaning they cannot alter the programming. because they are just a vehicle that has been programmed. so just imagine what kind of ancient history we have In formations from the mainstream are mostly lies, alternative source are also lies. technically speaking all we can do is speculate. luckily for us , we don't have to look outside of us for info's. we already have it all inside of us. Whatever you are looking for; you can find the answer within you. just trust yourself. Good point. Actually all of us have been programmed but I agree there is a 2nd type human not related to the original human in spirit. Trust your true thoughts.
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Post by ML on Dec 19, 2019 3:43:40 GMT
Good point. Actually all of us have been programmed but I agree there is a 2nd type human not related to the original human in spirit. Trust your true thoughts. yeah all of us have been programmed. because all of us are at least animal creature. our difference with others is that we are not in auto-pilot. that is what the american natives have been talking about. The battle between the animal creature and the true man. whichever you feed becomes stronger. going inside means 'remembering' all the truth that you already have w/c the programming wiped during our formative years and also even during our adult years.
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Post by ray on Dec 20, 2019 16:23:10 GMT
I think you have run into a serious contradiction. We canNOT all be programmed and ALL have free will at the same time. Do you make your decisions in life or does your programming make them? If your programming makes your decisions for you, then WHAT is the point/reason for living?
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Post by ML on Dec 21, 2019 2:57:28 GMT
I think you have run into a serious contradiction. Hi Ray ))) Contradictions in itself is not bad at all It's a multi dimensional world. ANY-THING is possible. We can NOT all be programmed all our bodies are and ALL have free will at the same time. Do you make your decisions in life or does your programming make them? If your programming makes your decisions for you, then WHAT is the point/reason for living?Some are meat robots Ray. But of course i am not trying to convince you.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2019 3:34:30 GMT
I think you have r How does one know un into a serious contradiction. We canNOT all be programmed and ALL have free will at the same time. Do you make your decisions in life or does your programming make them? If your programming makes your decisions for you, then WHAT is the point/reason for living? Here is the problem Ray. How and when does one know when or whether they are or are not programmed? How does one know it's the real you and not a programmed condition at work? I am not picking one you personally Ray I am just trying to point out the layers are deep and can be confusing. The programs want you to live for their needs. Un-programming is the answer.
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Post by ray on Dec 22, 2019 1:49:41 GMT
Here is the problem Ray. How and when does one know when or whether they are or are not programmed?
In the whole subject of logic and reasoning, scientists start from evidence as in What evidence is there that we are being programmed?
If there is NO evidence, then programming is NOT a valid theory.
Using Oghams Razor and other techniques of accepted reasoning and logic are the intellectual structures that either lead to either possible theories or empty speculation that is not accepted by any serious researcher or thinker.
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Post by ray on Dec 22, 2019 2:53:07 GMT
Actually Myron, it is NOT a multi-dimensional world but rather a world in one of several separate dimensions. The fifth dimension for example is supposedly the dimension in between re-incarnations. It is NOT however at all like or part of our third dimension.
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Post by ML on Dec 22, 2019 3:21:38 GMT
Actually Myron, it is NOT a multi-dimensional world but rather a world in one of several separate dimensions. The fifth dimension for example is supposedly the dimension in between re-incarnations. It is NOT however at all like or part of our third dimension.
I support you Ray. We must always trust our feelings. If you feel and think that way then that is your truth. Thanks for being here bro Thank you
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2019 14:01:55 GMT
Here is the problem Ray. How and when does one know when or whether they are or are not programmed? In the whole subject of logic and reasoning, scientists start from evidence as in What evidence is there that we are being programmed?
If there is NO evidence, then programming is NOT a valid theory.
Using Oghams Razor and other techniques of accepted reasoning and logic are the intellectual structures that either lead to either possible theories or empty speculation that is not accepted by any serious researcher or thinker.Well Ray your response itself is evidence we are programmed. My statement struck a nerve with the ego you who went on a quick defense to quickly deny the fact one could possibly be programmed. You cannot even consider the possibility? Some 13th century Franciscan has to be the all determining, final judge on what is? Humans have been programmed since we were created. We were servants and designed to be so. We bow to religious and government leaders and have been severely punished in the past (and now) for breaking the status quo or creating a new thought like the Earth might just be round. Tell a Christian there is no God or Jesus is not what they think he is. Watch the response. (Yes we are programmed to believe in invisible Gods.) Do remember you yourself claim of settlements and if I remember right tall towers on the moon yet you (or anyone else for that matter has offered any real "proof" they exist.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2019 14:55:52 GMT
Here is the problem Ray. How and when does one know when or whether they are or are not programmed? In the whole subject of logic and reasoning, scientists start from evidence as in What evidence is there that we are being programmed?
If there is NO evidence, then programming is NOT a valid theory.
Using Oghams Razor and other techniques of accepted reasoning and logic are the intellectual structures that either lead to either possible theories or empty speculation that is not accepted by any serious researcher or thinker.Could it be Ray that the real evidence has been carefully hidden away from the population and that scientists just "claim" to have all the evidence, because it must correspond with a certain agenda (Darwinism theory of evolution e.g.)? Whereas that so called evidence in most cases is based upon propaganda so that people won't find out the whole truth? How do you know for certain that scientists have all the evidence? If you really want "evidence" that we are being programmed, just take a look at the behavior of so many people who react emotionally, or people that just believe what their religious and political authorities dictate to them. How many people in this world do you think are thinking critically about what is happening in the world? I think all the members on this forum have awakened at a certain time in their lives, because they started questioning religions, politics and other stuff. Now all of us woke up from a deep sleep (or how you wish to call it). What do you think this deep sleep is? Wouldn't you call it being programmed?
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Post by ray on Dec 22, 2019 17:12:11 GMT
Well, Myka. related to the towers...Zend 3 shot official NASA publication Exploring Space with a Camera NASA SP-168, 1968 available in high resolution on the Internet
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Post by ray on Dec 22, 2019 18:43:23 GMT
The problem Blossom with the concept that the real programming is being hidden away is:
What is the content of the "real programming"?
WHO is doing the programming?
WHY is programming being done and then hidden away?
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Post by IW on Dec 22, 2019 21:15:16 GMT
When programming begins to have questions about the program, the best and most useful answer for that programming is simply more programming, since any other answer is outside of itself and will never make sense. This is a search outside of programming and that is not allowed.
Not even programming, maybe especially programming does not want to cease to exist.
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Post by ray on Dec 23, 2019 1:35:29 GMT
You are NOT making sense Irish. Keep it simple and try to explain WHO, WHAT, and WHY related to programming. It seems to me that you canNOT talk about programming BECAUSE, it does NOT exist.
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Post by IW on Dec 23, 2019 2:59:38 GMT
You are NOT making sense Irish. Keep it simple and try to explain WHO, WHAT, and WHY related to programming. It seems to me that you canNOT talk about programming BECAUSE, it does NOT exist. I most likely can't make sense to you Ray.
<<ray"programming does not WANT!!!! to cease to exist.?" Since when does :things'; like programming have WANTS?>>
Most of us understand what it means to have programming all around us, it walks and talks and has a "sense" of life.
This is like saying a book can't speak to someone because it has no mouth. You may be right in whatever you say Ray, but it only means you don't understand and that's up to you.
Here's a quote from Miles W. Mathis: In other words, there are rules in the battles of the top families. You can run projects (propaganda/programming) against one another, but you cannot blow the cover of the whole system (matrix). This is why the truth is the most hated thing, and the one thing you never see.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2019 3:36:15 GMT
You are NOT making sense Irish. Keep it simple and try to explain WHO, WHAT, and WHY related to programming. It seems to me that you canNOT talk about programming BECAUSE, it does NOT exist. I most likely can't make sense to you Ray.
<<ray"programming does not WANT!!!! to cease to exist.?" Since when does :things'; like programming have WANTS?>>
Most of us understand what it means to have programming all around us, it walks and talks and has a "sense" of life.
This is like saying a book can't speak to someone because it has no mouth. You may be right in whatever you say Ray, but it only means you don't understand and that's up to you.
Here's a quote from Miles W. Mathis: In other words, there are rules in the battles of the top families. You can run projects (propaganda/programming) against one another, but you cannot blow the cover of the whole system (matrix). This is why the truth is the most hated thing, and the one thing you never see.
Understanding programming is easy really. Take a newborn child. It is near empty in what I am calling programming. Conditioning could be substituted if the word somehow bothers one. If a newborn human was raised by Chimps it would learn to be a Chimp. If raised devout Muslims it would be just that. Humans when born are a bit like a new computer. They cannot do as much as a computer that has been programmed to do certain tasks. As we get older we may choose our own programming without truly understanding it. Add to this the ego aspect (and this is a huge subject within itself) and most folks do not know who they truly are or how they got there. All programming is not bad as quality teachings are a big plus. Being programmed to obey a religious, political or other belief system is a problem. That person just accepted what was presented. The military takes impressionable young egos and turns them into war machines. Rare is the independent mind that looks at it all as an outsider. PS the photos are interesting but inconclusive. Maybe they are something but do look like crusty rock formations as well.
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Post by ML on Dec 23, 2019 4:46:56 GMT
and speaking of "Programming" I've been working in the "Computer Programming" industry since 1996. and it has been 'good' to me. Thanks
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