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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 6:43:43 GMT
Hi, I wanted to post some information here. I came across this forum group a few years ago through Angeliki's book. Then 2 years later I came back due to you guys/ladies discussing Endalls work. Progression I'd say. Now I'm on to something else and I wanted to share it here. Endall has got a lot of great info regarding our situation here, but I think he is missing a major key aspect of it, which basically connects to mudflood/tartaria research, and here's a video and channel which I find clears up a huge amount of the confusion. Sotchi Full Doc drive.google.com/file/d/1n4YMlOkiFR8-nAi4nJ7uKW4EzqVgxTxo/viewGlobal Vision Youtube Channel www.youtube.com/channel/UCv46Zhwulq31NLJA0KxaEdQ/videosAll the best!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 20:16:50 GMT
From Clarifying the Don Juan Teachings For the Second Cognition
"The hapiym virus is eons old. No one knows its point of origin, but it is an ancient energetic virus. The virus itself operates from a hive origin, demanding to cluster with others of its kind into a massive collective of stolen human consciousness, which is why the human herding instinct is so profound in our species. It is actually this infectious hapiym virus that makes humanity congregate the way it does through its perceptual consensus realities. Once infected, the predator hapiym consciousness attaches to the individuated consciousness of its human host and starts to mimic the individual consciousness, eventually completely infiltrating not only the consciousness of the infected human, but controlling their physiology through hijacking the nervous system and controlling our emotions. The hapiym virus feeds on our emotional energies, and this is why we find humanity always operating with reactive emotions. Every time anyone says something that pisses you off or makes you happy, the emotional energies you emit feed this virus and make it stronger." 182
This hapiyum similar concept to much other stuff hm
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 16:56:38 GMT
So I was reading the endall beall (and gemma beall) book on the second cognition toolbox. Anyway so it talks about how the hapiym virus hives were eliminated in late 2016 (supposedly). It doesn't answer how it was done in the books or cover much more detail generally. Anyone know anything else?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 18:01:00 GMT
So I was reading the endall beall (and gemma beall) book on the second cognition toolbox. Anyway so it talks about how the hapiym virus hives were eliminated in late 2016 (supposedly). It doesn't answer how it was done in the books or cover much more detail generally. Anyone know anything else? No Griffy. I have read several other books of him and he doesn't mention the way how. We also asked him personally on the Patreon site, but he only answered that this is not important knowledge at this stage. He though explained that what we are seeing now (after the elimination) are the residual effects, as the ego has mimicked the mind virus and is now being magnified in its behavior. He also wrote in his most recent book of "Voodoo Reality" that "there is not going to be a reprise of its appearance as preclusions have been written into the tapestry of the creation programming to disallow such monumental tampering on the gameboard of creation". Gemma once explained (she has quite some spiritual traits) that since the eradication she hasn't seen one "ghost" (dead relatives of people) and that prior to that she used to see and feel them everywhere.
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Post by Stranger2 on Apr 27, 2020 18:47:46 GMT
So I was reading the endall beall (and gemma beall) book on the second cognition toolbox. Anyway so it talks about how the hapiym virus hives were eliminated in late 2016 (supposedly). It doesn't answer how it was done in the books or cover much more detail generally. Anyone know anything else? I know people are going to disagree as there seems to be quite a few followers of Bell on this forum. But IMHO Bell's theory that the root cause of the human ego is this mysterious hapyim virus is very shallow and naïve. Bell seems to have little understanding of how the egoic mind cognitive and behavioral patterns work and where they actually originate from. He is just replacing outdated religions of the past with another scientology-type religion. And as any of the religions, it is impossible to prove or disprove, so it becomes a matter of faith. But people who are ready to acknowledge that their ego is a problem, are diverted to fight with this bogus virus instead of making efforts to investigate their consciousness and find the real root cause of the ego and ways to liberate themselves form the slavery to the ego. In medieval times there was a theory of "demons". In this theory every physical phenomenon was explained as an action of demons. For example, gravitational force by Earth was explained as demons pushing objects towards the center of the Earth, and so on. Of course the demons theory it is impossible to disprove, but it is totally useless from practical point of view. The hapyim virus theory belongs to the same category. But at the end, I don't see it as a big problem. To find out whether the hapyim is actually true or not one needs to try, not just believe or have understanding. Some people are going to believe in it, follow the Bell's faith, make all prescribed actions and efforts to heal from the hapyim, and then eventually find out that it simply does not work and they are still as egoic as they always have been. But there is still a positive side of the Bell's teachings, which is the understanding and acceptance of the fact that the root cause of the majority of the humanity's problems and suffering is the ego.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 19:38:18 GMT
So I was reading the endall beall (and gemma beall) book on the second cognition toolbox. Anyway so it talks about how the hapiym virus hives were eliminated in late 2016 (supposedly). It doesn't answer how it was done in the books or cover much more detail generally. Anyone know anything else? I know people are going to disagree as there seems to be quite a few followers of Bell on this forum. But IMHO Bell's theory that the root cause of the human ego is this mysterious hapyim virus is very shallow and naïve. Bell seems to have little understanding of how the egoic mind cognitive and behavioral patterns work and where they actually originate from. He is just replacing outdated religions of the past with another scientology-type religion. And as any of the religions, it is impossible to prove or disprove, so it becomes a matter of faith. But people who are ready to acknowledge that their ego is a problem, are diverted to fight with this bogus virus instead of making efforts to investigate their consciousness and find the real root cause of the ego and ways to liberate themselves form the slavery to the ego. In medieval times there was a theory of "demons". In this theory every physical phenomenon was explained as an action of demons. For example, gravitational force by Earth was explained as demons pushing objects towards the center of the Earth, and so on. Of course the demons theory it is impossible to disprove, but it is totally useless from practical point of view. The hapyim virus theory belongs to the same category. But at the end, I don't see it as a big problem. To find out whether the hapyim is actually true or not one needs to try, not just believe or have understanding. Some people are going to believe in it, follow the Bell's faith, make all prescribed actions and efforts to heal from the hapyim, and then eventually find out that it simply does not work and they are still as egoic as they always have been. But there is still a positive side of the Bell's teachings, which is the understanding and acceptance of the fact that the root cause of the majority of the humanity's problems and suffering is the ego. I don't follow endall beall closely but I do agree with some stuff with the hapiym virus and found some useful things in that book i've been reading. I think he gets that stuff about collective unconscious and bardo being illusion very right. I'd call it the 'astral' though, the astral being a part of consciousness the scratch pad for creativity that became distorted. I don't see the idea of a mind virus being that outlandish seeing that the idea of memes and virus of the mind while it is a more materialistic reductionist point of view is readily accepted. I wouldn't take anything as faith anyway. I am more using aspects of Philip G. theory which have been for a long time. Which does have some similarities. This is a "mind virus" of sorts as well. Yes it may have some similarities with religions and things like the devil. But that is that there is some "truth" in such. Why I agree with it is for one that I have first hand experience with such like so called spiritual practices for example that manipulate the mind. How you get a sense of something, that is not you. I've experienced how my mind has been manipulated almost realtime with intrusive thoughts to think a certain way, get a certain object, believe in a certain thing. Like some kind of artificial but not conscious intelligence was behind it. I've experienced my dreams suddenly go vivid due to certain things etc. Otherwise it is just a very useful theory and the guy who came up with it doesn't present it as truth and only as something very very useful. Of course he does say that the mind virus is in a sense just a part of us but a distorted part. Many people benefit from his theories/working model greatly and ofc some do not but that is that. And when people get so called 'mental illnesses' should these perceptions that are so foreign to them be regarded as them? Because that just doesn't seem right to me when these things come at them. I see it similar to like someone gets hit by a car, they might have not been looking or be blind or have some weakness of sorts or been at the wrong place wrong time. But there was a cause of sorts that included a car. Back to Beall. What I don't take from endall beall is the stuff about any off world beings or intervention in humans (since to me in most cases these things are either human creation or created by human equivalent beings but in the past). And all that theosophy stuff i find a distraction whether it be true or nor. Scientology is a sort of partly has some truth in it ahahah no I wouldn't give it credit (like please don't fill out their personality tests) but the engrams and stored trauma are actually good ideas. Though those insights were taken from elsewhere. And don't feel you can't state your views and theories as long as it isn't in a criticizing manner etc etc I think people here are willing to listen and think carefully for themselves instead of being sheep like. Just wondering what you would use to explain cognitive and behavioural patterns? And what would you say the root cause is of these problems?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 19:41:46 GMT
So I was reading the endall beall (and gemma beall) book on the second cognition toolbox. Anyway so it talks about how the hapiym virus hives were eliminated in late 2016 (supposedly). It doesn't answer how it was done in the books or cover much more detail generally. Anyone know anything else? I know people are going to disagree as there seems to be quite a few followers of Bell on this forum. But IMHO Bell's theory that the root cause of the human ego is this mysterious hapyim virus is very shallow and naïve. Bell seems to have little understanding of how the egoic mind cognitive and behavioral patterns work and where they actually originate from. He is just replacing outdated religions of the past with another scientology-type religion. And as any of the religions, it is impossible to prove or disprove, so it becomes a matter of faith. But people who are ready to acknowledge that their ego is a problem, are diverted to fight with this bogus virus instead of making efforts to investigate their consciousness and find the real root cause of the ego and ways to liberate themselves form the slavery to the ego. In medieval times there was a theory of "demons". In this theory every physical phenomenon was explained as an action of demons. For example, gravitational force by Earth was explained as demons pushing objects towards the center of the Earth, and so on. Of course the demons theory it is impossible to disprove, but it is totally useless from practical point of view. The hapyim virus theory belongs to the same category. But at the end, I don't see it as a big problem. To find out whether the hapyim is actually true or not one needs to try, not just believe or have understanding. Some people are going to believe in it, follow the Bell's faith, make all prescribed actions and efforts to heal from the hapyim, and then eventually find out that it simply does not work and they are still as egoic as they always have been. But there is still a positive side of the Bell's teachings, which is the understanding and acceptance of the fact that the root cause of the majority of the humanity's problems and suffering is the ego. I have been reading Endall's books and articles for a while now. As much as I enjoy his writings I too am a bit buzzled by the mind virus thing. Despite the many mentions not much has been said about it's beginning or it's end. I want folks here to feel free to speak their mind. Let's not worry too much about how others may take constructive criticism. One thing I like about Endall's teaching is his pointing out how folks attach to labels and in a sense become a hive member parroting the teachings of said label. As in...I am a American, Catholic, Republican. One who adopts those labels often identifies with and will aggressively defend the teachings and party line of said groups. We are just us.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 20:41:25 GMT
Yes Myka, I’m also at odds why he goes at length explaining in detail about those that created us and doesn’t do the same about the origin and ending of the hive. I once asked him more details about Tiamat and I got the same answer, not important. On one hand, I do find it important to know more about our history, because it might explain how humanity has become so dependent on authority and to be honest, there is a lot of evidence to be found if you go and take a look. But on the other hand, I don’t think it is important to say this or that is what really happened. We need to look forward and become who we really are and that can IMO only be done by first discovering in us the programs and belief systems that are keeping us stuck and then moving on.
What I really enjoy about Endall (and no he is no guru to me as some might think lol) is how he shatters belief systems one by one and how he goes way beyond than any researcher has ever done. He has made me stretch my perceptions in many ways.
Although I am at odds about the eradication of the virus, I am not ruling out the possibility of the existence of the hive mind virus. In his book of "The Divine Soul" Endall goes through quite some past events and links them to the "divine" hive collective. It might explain why so many people, like Mohammed and others, all of a sudden (mostly during periods of stress or fasting) started having visions in which they received thousands of pages of info that then suddenly became religion. I don't think the ego is even capable of manipulating the mind in such a way ...
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Post by Stranger2 on Apr 27, 2020 21:47:00 GMT
Just wondering what you would use to explain cognitive and behavioural patterns? And what would you say the root cause is of these problems? Well, it's a long topic, and I would never claim that my understanding is full and correct. There are two parts of it. One comes from the genetic material inherited into human body that brings into our psyche and mind all humanoid and animal survival mechanisms. These mechanisms were developed as part of natural selection, and individual and group egos are essential parts of it. Donald Hoffman demonstrated it very well in his evolutional computation experiments. Any humanoid with non-egoic mind structure and non-distorted perception of reality would not have even a slightest chance to survive. The dualistic perception has also developed as another necessary part of the humanoid mind. In order to survive and function in the world, a humanoid had to separate the world that he perceived into multiple objects and subjects, divide the reality into separate parts in his imagination. The central piece of this divided reality is of course his own separate self. Without this dualistic perception the sense of separate self and the ego could not even develop because the mind would not be able to distinguish between self and others, this would make a humanoid unable to struggle for survival. So, the dualistic perception, sense of separate self and egoic mind with its survival patterns are all part of the same survival package. This survival mechanism worked very well for humanoids and enable them to survive and develop into humans. However, at the current stage of the human development it became a big impediment and the source of most of our individual and social problems and suffering. Another part of this is the part of the consciousness that becomes merged with human mind when it is incarnated into human body (we can call it "soul"). When consciousness exists in the dualistic state, it also carries the dualistic perception, the sense of self and egoic desires and fears (otherwise it would not want to and would not even be able to incarnate into and merge with the human mind). Somehow certain souls become ignorant of their fundamental nature and develop distorted and dualistic perception of reality. How it happens is a mystery, possibly newborn souls, appearing in the conscious substratum of the universe, having no prior knowledge and experience, make this mistake from the very beginning when they experience the first thought "I am" and perceive themselves as separately existing beings. As a consequence, they have to evolve and experience life from a distorted perspective of a separate self. As part of their journey, they incarnate into various races and beings to experience their life, and in this process, pick up and develop strong egoic patterns as well (that are reinforced by organically inherited egoic minds of the creatures that they incarnate into). Developing egoic mind and egoic behavioral patterns inevitably leads to a lot of confusion and suffering in their lives, which in turn makes some of them to seek the ways to find the root causes of suffering and confusion and ways to end it. The bottom-line is: - A big part of the egoic mind and dualistic perception of reality is genetically inherited from the ancestors and resides in the deep brain structures of the body that we incarnate into. We can work with it and partially change it using neuroplasticity of our brains, but it is totally unrealistic to expect that we can ever completely transform the human mind into egoless one free of the dualistic distortion of reality as long as we are in the human body. This is why in such traditions as Buddhism and Advaita it was clearly understood that full liberation of consciousness from dualistic perception and ego is impossible in human conditions and one of the prerequisites of such liberation is ending the cycle of reincarnations. - The soul and the human mind are connected and influence each other, but in their core parts they are fairly independent. A bad side of it is that the soul can never fully transform and influence the human mind with its egoic structure. On the other hand, a good side is that the egoic human mind in turn can never fully control and shape the soul. - The dualistic perception and the sense of separate self that reside in the soul can be and need to be transcended in order for the soul to be liberated from them (regardless of the egotism and dualistic perception of the human mind). They are the root of the ego, and as long as the soul remains in the illusion of dualistic perception and separate self, the ego with its variety of desires and fears will inevitably grow from it. Regardless of the inertia of the egoic human mind, the soul has ability to do this transformation due to its certain independence from the human mind. If the soul is able to achieve this (which is called enlightenment and liberation in Buddhist and Advaita traditions), it gains the ability to free itself from the urge to incarnate and from desires and addictions that keep it attached to the dualistic manifested worlds. It losses it's interest in the dualistic role games where the characters pretend to be or believe to be separately existing beings. This does not mean that the soul's consciousness goes into a blank state of nothingness, there is plenty of fascinating and creative activities the soul can do and worlds it can live in without falling into dualistic perception and egoic states of consciousness again. - So, in summary, there are two kinds of states of consciousness: non-dualistic and non-egoic, and dualistic/egoic. There is a large variety of sub-states in each of those categories, but essentially they are very different in their functioning, feel and perception of reality. And due to their fundamental differences, these souls tend do live in different worlds that fit better to their states of consciousness. No nondualistic/nonegoic soul would ever want to live as or incarnate into a creature with dualistic/egoic mind in the world inhabited by similar egoic creatures. And the other way around, souls in dualistic/egoic states have no interest to live in the realms of nondualistic souls where they would have no means to satisfy their egoic desires. All said above does not exclude the possibility of some interest groups of souls or aliens that try to control humanity and benefit from it from other dimensions. But the point is that those are the consequences, not the root causes. By developing the distorted perception of reality and illusion of separate self we became open to their manipulations because we developed wants, desires and attachments that those groups can manipulate with in order to use us for their purposes. It is very much like drug addiction: if I'm addicted to drugs, there will always be drug dealers who will benefit from it and make money on my addiction. But the root cause of the problem is not in drug dealers but in my addiction. And the solution is not to get free from the dealers, but to brake free from the addiction.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 9:21:16 GMT
Thanks for sharing and writing so much. I took a look at Donald Hoffman (again) and he seems to be saying a lot of interesting things about quantum physics and the mind. I don't think anyone can claim to know generally, but especially as I think there is more to be researched. In the end they will all just be " a finger pointing to the moon". I take a different sort of view as said, gonna explain a bit more to clarify for myself and whats written already not just as a reply but feel free just to skip over. And talk in terms of evolution and such. So for me I would talk about group mind, archetypes and that. That's where this "mind virus" comes into and it is sort of the intermediary. It operates like a ego trying to survive but it's existence is empty and it just uses Endall beall says something like this too at least with archetypes. Talking about shared archtypes between people and cultures. And the mind virus possibly a product of 'egos' (another and their no mutually exclusive is experiments with consciousness.) It is a sort of inherited situation. And at birth those who have a lot of freedom energy are sent attacks. They are less grounded at this time where perception is still forming. I also have a different view of the soul, in that I use the idea of the soul as something harmful. Soul programming of sorts is recieved when you are born. This gets you in the reincarnation cycle. People start off without it but gain it as they get programmed within each cycle. Without it people revert to consciousness healthily. And this explains different levels of awareness within people as people become more programmed. The soul is layers of programming that creates sepration between consciousness. I don't think dualism is bad as such. In fact 'enlightenment' (or equivalent in any other name) isn't being freed from dualism. What it is, is a change in perspective. You gain a balance between your non dual and dualistic aspects. You experience non duality but you also continue to experience duality. I can only claim so much..not being enlightened lol If you go too beyond such a thing theoretically you would seize to exist. For most people there are just many blocks to enlightenment, again I'd attribute that to the presence of the "mind virus" influence. The mind influence has also affected evolution to a bit such as depression was developed as a response to the fear feelings it would create, from triggering the flight and fight response. liberationist.org/the-ego-is-not-the-enemy/I don't quite like all the freudian ego ideas in this article. But it talks about how the ego is not the enemy. "Your greatest enemy is your inner perception, not your ego. You must get rid of the illusion of who you are, not of the ego." Wants, desires and attachments are something to overcome for sure. That is what holds many people down. And this is related to addictions. Many addictions are commonly accepted in society for example gambling or drinking. Since it is usually seen as okay to have a mild addiction. Other theories I heard of are those about childhood trauma being inheritied by each generation. I think trauma still plays a role in all of this. However not as big as other factors. Ofc i'm never sure about off world entities being involved. Since there are gaps in evolution. But they seem to me better explained other things.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 9:39:12 GMT
On the topic of the eradication of the virus I do wonder if he intends to explain more at a later date. And how certain he is in erradicating it. If it is it would be something very big. I wouldn't be too sure as it is all to easy to get false positives.
Also with the ghost thing I would want to hear other people saying the same thing. It may be possible for perceptions like of ghosts to be turned on and off. And people who see ghosts are normally (naturally speaking) ungrounded in some aspect. I would be in the group that ghosts (elementals) are not real people just imprints.
It would make sense though once it was removed things would change to disallow the virus. And that new people born wouldn't be affected by it. So in a few years time if they grew up they would be free of it, theoretically.
Philip G. was also trying to erradicate the virus not sure how successful it was but there were several ventures.
There is a bit of similarity to those ascension theories so i am wary.
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Post by Stranger2 on Apr 28, 2020 13:39:46 GMT
That's right, we are now talking about the practical approach to dealing with ego, which is working with ego in a productive non-confrontational way, and instead of denying it, transforming it from an enemy to a co-worker that you can temporarily live with. But we should not be naive about it, it can nerer become good, it's ultimate selfishness is uncurable. It can only be trained to change from a wild animal to a reasonalbly trained and civilized, but still fundamentally selfish creature. We can stop at this point, that is what most people do anyway. But still the ultimate destination for liberation (if this is what you are aiming for) is complete dissolution of the egoic complex. When the sense of separate self is gone, the ground for the development and sustaining of the ego is also gone, the ego simply can not stand and develop without the sense of separate self. That is correct, the ego is a consequence (branches and leaves). The root cause is the dualistic perception (root) and illusion of separate self (stem). So, instead of wasting energy and time in fighting with ego (cutting branches), it is more productive to find and unroot the root-cause. Once the root is removed, the ego will loose its root and gradually dry out. That is why in the Buddhist practice the emphasis is on realization of non-dualistic perception and on the emptiness of self, rather than on fighting with the ego. Well, I talked about it in my previous post, this is a misconception. You can live a life full of happiness and creativity without a trace of dualistic perception. Non-dualistic perception does not mean cessation of active and creative life, does not mean the end of perceiving any forms (perceptions, sensations, thoughts, feelings, images etc). Perceiving and living in the world of forms does not necessarily mean perceiving duality. Duality is not perceiving the variety of forms, it is when we perceive those forms as some separately existing beings or objects. In non-dualistic perception you can still perceive and manifest forms, you just do not perceive yourself or anything else as a separate being, you do not divide the world in your perception into separately existing selves and objects. I know, this kind of perception is hard for people to understand because our habitual dualistic perception is so deeply hardwired into our human mind. But you are right that the switching between dualistic and non-dualistic perception does not happen overnight and usually takes a long time, during which one lives with a mix of both and perceives the world from both perspectives (which is kind of funny and a bit confusing, but you can learn to live with it). Regarding the soul, it's all a matter of how we define the word "soul", but overall I agree with you, the "soul" is a collection of all the psychic debris that we accumulate over our lifetimes: traumas, memories, emotional and cognitive patterns, fears, attachments and addictions, including the ego too. But of course not all of it is garbage, there are also good things: our talents, out accumulated knowledge, wisdom and insights. Still that is not our awareness, not who we are, but we mistakenly identify ourselves (our "selves") with it. The soul and self is not an entity, it's only an activity of consciousness. But the "soul" is not something to completely get rid of, because once our state of consciousness is transformed into nondual/non-egoic, the soul, cleaned from all traces of ego, can be also transformed into a healthy conscious activity with healthy patterns and creative abilities. And you are also right, part of that soul structure is also collective archetypes and patterns too. Whenever we participate in any society, we automatically connect to its collective levels of consciousness and pick up those collective psychic structures. It can happen on both physical level (thorough genetics) and on the level of consciousness (although some philosophers argue that there is no physical level and all is only consciousness, which is quite possible and I tend to agree with it, in which case the term "physical" represents only more dense and less flexible/controllable levels of consciousness).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 15:16:51 GMT
Though IMO I would still define non duality at it's purest as totally without dichotomies. As I see it if you are still experiencing form in anyway that is itself a type of duality even if perception wise that is different (i.e. not percieving things as truly seperate). But yeah as long as it doesnt mean aiming for cessation of creative life as some people see as wise. But i kind of see it as healthy balanced enlightenment(+self actualization) vs unbalanced.
There are lots of things that could be seen as layers of consciousness but yeah I dont think defining them makes a lot of sense. Primarly I do yep see it as getting less "flexible" as you move "out". As for the soul I usually define it in terms of obstructions away from the true nature of the self. You could define the idea as containg aspects of individuality too though yeah.
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Yeah and it is also "interesting" how society/ culture shapes individuals .
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Post by Stranger2 on Apr 28, 2020 15:35:05 GMT
Well, it's all a matter of definition, and there are two different definitions/understandings of what non-duality means (and there is no "right" one here). One is, as you said, the purest state with no dichotomies, or in other words, no perception and no variety of forms. It's a state of pure beingness/awareness. That is a possible state too, if that is what you are aiming for. Another one is the awareness that is still perceiving the variety of forms, but not perceiving them as anything separate from awareness. Awareness is totally mysterious, it is not multiple because it is of the same essence, but it is not one because it can manifest itself in multiple forms. But whatever it manifests is never separate from the awareness, it is never outside or beyond or apart from the awareness. That is the non-dual perception as it is understood in Dzogchen practice of Buddhism, and that is what I also agree with. It's like any content of your awareness, or any dream: anything appearing in your dream is never separate from the dream, from your consciousness, it is always only a content of your consciousness, so the consciousness and all its content is in a way "non-dual" (non-separate, but at the same time not "uniform", there is still a variety of forms). It's a mystery, there is no rational or logical explanation of it, it's just an obvious fact of our direct conscious experience. So both of these non-dual states of consciousness are possible. For the sake of clarity, they should be called with different names, but people use the word "non-dual" for both and that is where the confusion comes from. Well, yes, if you are in the process of finding your true nature of the self, the soul is the source of obstructions. And if your goal is the non-dual state in the first sense (formless state), then the soul is also someting to get rid of. But if you are aiming for non-dual perception in the second sense, and once you recognized your true nature, then the soul is not an obstruction anymore, it can function and develop freely but in a healthy way without creating false illusions of separate existence (where the ego growths from).
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Post by mironlang on Apr 30, 2020 3:02:21 GMT
Well, yes, if you are in the process of finding your true nature of the self, the soul is the source of obstructions. And if your goal is the non-dual state in the first sense (formless state), then the soul is also someting to get rid of. But if you are aiming for non-dual perception in the second sense, and once you recognized your true nature, then the soul is not an obstruction anymore, it can function and develop freely but in a healthy way without creating false illusions of separate existence (where the ego growths from). I can say that this is accurate.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2020 16:28:41 GMT
End Times or a New Beginning?: Humanity's Moment to EvolveFor those interested I am posting here the link to the latest book of Endall that I do recommend reading. Even if you don’t like the guy, just give it a try. It summarizes everything what is at stake with the chaos and upheaval in the world we currently live in, a world that is controlled by belief systems and narratives. In this world there is no room anymore for personal and cognitive growth. Most of humanity does not even know who and what they really are underneath all these programmed illusions and inner deceptions and do think they have real individual choice. People need to look into their own inner mirror and face down this illusionary ego self. One important question we must ask ourselves is “Why do I believe what I believe” and be really very honest about what we get to see. Are those beliefs we heard from other people, presumed authorities? Or are they genuinely informed conclusions we made ourselves?
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Post by Fluidity Pathmaker on Aug 11, 2023 22:30:15 GMT
Humanity is incapable of removing any authority (and that includes any belief system based on narratives, cultural programming, ideologies, religions, spiritual traditions, etc) from the entire quagmire of this perceptual reality as a result of our deep generational programming since we were created as slaves to the ‘gods’ (whether you want to believe that or not). As long as humanity chooses to believe in a higher power than himself, he will always see himself at the mercy of others. As long as humanity cannot perceive the infinite concept of who we really are and of the Actuality that surrounds us, they will always remain limited, allow others to make the choices they refuse to make for themselves and let the others write the script of their lives. We have all been programmed to become our own impediments. We have put ourselves into our own cages and we allowed this to happen, because we don’t understand who we really are. It is time for humanity to step out of its own shadow and learn to stand in its own glorious power. This material reality is our playground and we are here to play the game of Life. To experience life in whatever way we choose, provided we don't trespass others. But sadly humanity has chosen to take life so seriously imagining itself that it is incapable of using its own personal autonomy and creative force. As long as people are unwilling to become their own authorities and become active contributors to changing the situation on this planet, then they will remain nothing more than followers, relying on presumed authority figures to think and do the work for them. It is all too easy to let others do for us, to let others think for us, to allow someone else to provide insights that we are perfectly capable of reaching on our own if we would expend a little effort to do so rather than continually believing that we are not capable of doing it for ourselves. If you truly want to find out what true freedom and autonomy is, what it means to become who you really are and how we can become an active contributor to the overall network of life, then you might find value in reading the following books we wrote. www.amazon.com/Freedom-Factor-Subjective-Variations-Beginnings/dp/B0C12F947Z/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2HDPCWMYN3ZY&keywords=the+freedom+factor+-+beall&qid=1691431893&s=books&sprefix=the+freedom+factor+-+beall%2Cstripbooks%2C181&sr=1-1 www.amazon.com/Final-Frontier-Humanity-Mature-Consciousness/dp/B0C6W573X7/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3HFF3FU6THZN9&keywords=the+final+frontier+-+beall&qid=1690341643&s=books&sprefix=the+final+frontier+-+beall%2Cstripbooks%2C181&sr=1-1www.amazon.com/Internet-Consciousness-How-Works-Access/dp/B0CCCS8S3Y/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2I1I5ELYVJCS5&keywords=the+internet+of+consciousness+-+beall&qid=1690341572&s=books&sprefix=the+internet+of+consciousness+-+beall%2Cstripbooks%2C180&sr=1-1
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Post by Fluidity Pathmaker on Aug 15, 2023 20:02:44 GMT
Humanity is incapable of removing any authority (and that includes any belief system based on narratives, cultural programming, ideologies, religions, spiritual traditions, etc) from the entire quagmire of this perceptual reality as a result of our deep generational programming since we were created as slaves to the ‘gods’ (whether you want to believe that or not). As long as humanity chooses to believe in a higher power than himself, he will always see himself at the mercy of others. As long as humanity cannot perceive the infinite concept of who we really are and of the Actuality that surrounds us, they will always remain limited, allow others to make the choices they refuse to make for themselves and let the others write the script of their lives. We have all been programmed to become our own impediments. We have put ourselves into our own cages and we allowed this to happen, because we don’t understand who we really are. It is time for humanity to step out of its own shadow and learn to stand in its own glorious power. This material reality is our playground and we are here to play the game of Life. To experience life in whatever way we choose, provided we don't trespass others. But sadly humanity has chosen to take life so seriously imagining itself that it is incapable of using its own personal autonomy and creative force. As long as people are unwilling to become their own authorities and become active contributors to changing the situation on this planet, then they will remain nothing more than followers, relying on presumed authority figures to think and do the work for them. It is all too easy to let others do for us, to let others think for us, to allow someone else to provide insights that we are perfectly capable of reaching on our own if we would expend a little effort to do so rather than continually believing that we are not capable of doing it for ourselves. If you truly want to find out what true freedom and autonomy is, what it means to become who you really are and how we can become an active contributor to the overall network of life, then you might find value in reading the following books we wrote. www.amazon.com/Freedom-Factor-Subjective-Variations-Beginnings/dp/B0C12F947Z/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2HDPCWMYN3ZY&keywords=the+freedom+factor+-+beall&qid=1691431893&s=books&sprefix=the+freedom+factor+-+beall%2Cstripbooks%2C181&sr=1-1 www.amazon.com/Final-Frontier-Humanity-Mature-Consciousness/dp/B0C6W573X7/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3HFF3FU6THZN9&keywords=the+final+frontier+-+beall&qid=1690341643&s=books&sprefix=the+final+frontier+-+beall%2Cstripbooks%2C181&sr=1-1www.amazon.com/Internet-Consciousness-How-Works-Access/dp/B0CCCS8S3Y/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2I1I5ELYVJCS5&keywords=the+internet+of+consciousness+-+beall&qid=1690341572&s=books&sprefix=the+internet+of+consciousness+-+beall%2Cstripbooks%2C180&sr=1-1 Edit: Endall Beall has a huge library of books that have steep discounts right now. So for those interested, here is the link www.amazon.com/s?k=books+by+endall+beall&i=stripbooks&crid=27YF8CMKULBQ5&sprefix=books+by+endall+beall%2Cstripbooks%2C158&ref=nb_sb_noss
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Post by Fluidity Pathmaker on Aug 15, 2023 20:18:53 GMT
Humanity is incapable of removing any authority (and that includes any belief system based on narratives, cultural programming, ideologies, religions, spiritual traditions, etc) from the entire quagmire of this perceptual reality as a result of our deep generational programming since we were created as slaves to the ‘gods’ (whether you want to believe that or not). As long as humanity chooses to believe in a higher power than himself, he will always see himself at the mercy of others. As long as humanity cannot perceive the infinite concept of who we really are and of the Actuality that surrounds us, they will always remain limited, allow others to make the choices they refuse to make for themselves and let the others write the script of their lives. We have all been programmed to become our own impediments. We have put ourselves into our own cages and we allowed this to happen, because we don’t understand who we really are. It is time for humanity to step out of its own shadow and learn to stand in its own glorious power. This material reality is our playground and we are here to play the game of Life. To experience life in whatever way we choose, provided we don't trespass others. But sadly humanity has chosen to take life so seriously imagining itself that it is incapable of using its own personal autonomy and creative force. As long as people are unwilling to become their own authorities and become active contributors to changing the situation on this planet, then they will remain nothing more than followers, relying on presumed authority figures to think and do the work for them. It is all too easy to let others do for us, to let others think for us, to allow someone else to provide insights that we are perfectly capable of reaching on our own if we would expend a little effort to do so rather than continually believing that we are not capable of doing it for ourselves. If you truly want to find out what true freedom and autonomy is, what it means to become who you really are and how we can become an active contributor to the overall network of life, then you might find value in reading the following books we wrote. www.amazon.com/Freedom-Factor-Subjective-Variations-Beginnings/dp/B0C12F947Z/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2HDPCWMYN3ZY&keywords=the+freedom+factor+-+beall&qid=1691431893&s=books&sprefix=the+freedom+factor+-+beall%2Cstripbooks%2C181&sr=1-1 www.amazon.com/Final-Frontier-Humanity-Mature-Consciousness/dp/B0C6W573X7/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3HFF3FU6THZN9&keywords=the+final+frontier+-+beall&qid=1690341643&s=books&sprefix=the+final+frontier+-+beall%2Cstripbooks%2C181&sr=1-1www.amazon.com/Internet-Consciousness-How-Works-Access/dp/B0CCCS8S3Y/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2I1I5ELYVJCS5&keywords=the+internet+of+consciousness+-+beall&qid=1690341572&s=books&sprefix=the+internet+of+consciousness+-+beall%2Cstripbooks%2C180&sr=1-1 Edit: Endall Beall has a huge library of books that have steep discounts right now. So for those interested, here is the link www.amazon.com/s?k=books+by+endall+beall&i=stripbooks&crid=27YF8CMKULBQ5&sprefix=books+by+endall+beall%2Cstripbooks%2C158&ref=nb_sb_noss Edit 2: Example of books that really helped me personally in my own cognitive shift are the following ones that you will now find at quite steep markdowns. I read al of these books and they all contain highly valuable information. – Demystifying the Mystical market price $25 on sale now for $4,62 – Explaining the Shift in Consciousness $24 – now on sale for $4,06 – The New Great Awakening $14,95 – now at $5,10 in Kindle format – Into The Hinterlands $16 – now on sale for $5,66 – Voodoo Reality $9,99 – now on sale for $6, 53
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Post by IW on Aug 31, 2023 10:40:02 GMT
Humanity is incapable of removing any authority (and that includes any belief system based on narratives, cultural programming, ideologies, religions, spiritual traditions, etc) from the entire quagmire of this perceptual reality as a result of our deep generational programming since we were created as slaves to the ‘gods’ (whether you want to believe that or not). As long as humanity chooses to believe in a higher power than himself, he will always see himself at the mercy of others. As long as humanity cannot perceive the infinite concept of who we really are and of the Actuality that surrounds us, they will always remain limited, allow others to make the choices they refuse to make for themselves and let the others write the script of their lives. We have all been programmed to become our own impediments. We have put ourselves into our own cages and we allowed this to happen, because we don’t understand who we really are. It is time for humanity to step out of its own shadow and learn to stand in its own glorious power. This material reality is our playground and we are here to play the game of Life. To experience life in whatever way we choose, provided we don't trespass others. But sadly humanity has chosen to take life so seriously imagining itself that it is incapable of using its own personal autonomy and creative force. As long as people are unwilling to become their own authorities and become active contributors to changing the situation on this planet, then they will remain nothing more than followers, relying on presumed authority figures to think and do the work for them. It is all too easy to let others do for us, to let others think for us, to allow someone else to provide insights that we are perfectly capable of reaching on our own if we would expend a little effort to do so rather than continually believing that we are not capable of doing it for ourselves. If you truly want to find out what true freedom and autonomy is, what it means to become who you really are and how we can become an active contributor to the overall network of life, then you might find value in reading the following books we wrote. As you are a guest, I am completely fine with you selling your books here as a 'Theory of Life' helpful guide. You quote yourself, but I do not know who you are. I don't know what you've read {here?}, if there was participation, or if you are a lonely ship in the night passing through. I do find it odd that you and so many hide behind avatars and are unwilling to become active, authentic participants here or anywhere online as themselves. What is the need for anonymity? How can this be true freedom, when anonymity itself is usually based on fear. As the online community grows, it is a representation of the world- it's thoughts and attitudes. Be yourself, out there, in here, what you do, what you think. Have a real conversation? It is still possible right? Things are quiet these days, winding down as there is so much to "deal" with. Send me a message if you like. We can chat private if that's where you are at. There is a ton of stuff here to look at all free, and I don't know who you are or your background without you saying something. All my ideas and opinions are here, through the various threads. <3 .
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Post by Fluidity Pathmaker on Sept 17, 2023 14:51:39 GMT
Humanity is incapable of removing any authority (and that includes any belief system based on narratives, cultural programming, ideologies, religions, spiritual traditions, etc) from the entire quagmire of this perceptual reality as a result of our deep generational programming since we were created as slaves to the ‘gods’ (whether you want to believe that or not). As long as humanity chooses to believe in a higher power than himself, he will always see himself at the mercy of others. As long as humanity cannot perceive the infinite concept of who we really are and of the Actuality that surrounds us, they will always remain limited, allow others to make the choices they refuse to make for themselves and let the others write the script of their lives. We have all been programmed to become our own impediments. We have put ourselves into our own cages and we allowed this to happen, because we don’t understand who we really are. It is time for humanity to step out of its own shadow and learn to stand in its own glorious power. This material reality is our playground and we are here to play the game of Life. To experience life in whatever way we choose, provided we don't trespass others. But sadly humanity has chosen to take life so seriously imagining itself that it is incapable of using its own personal autonomy and creative force. As long as people are unwilling to become their own authorities and become active contributors to changing the situation on this planet, then they will remain nothing more than followers, relying on presumed authority figures to think and do the work for them. It is all too easy to let others do for us, to let others think for us, to allow someone else to provide insights that we are perfectly capable of reaching on our own if we would expend a little effort to do so rather than continually believing that we are not capable of doing it for ourselves. If you truly want to find out what true freedom and autonomy is, what it means to become who you really are and how we can become an active contributor to the overall network of life, then you might find value in reading the following books we wrote. As you are a guest, I am completely fine with you selling your books here as a 'Theory of Life' helpful guide. You quote yourself, but I do not know who you are. I don't know what you've read {here?}, if there was participation, or if you are a lonely ship in the night passing through. I do find it odd that you and so many hide behind avatars and are unwilling to become active, authentic participants here or anywhere online as themselves. What is the need for anonymity? How can this be true freedom, when anonymity itself is usually based on fear. As the online community grows, it is a representation of the world- it's thoughts and attitudes. Be yourself, out there, in here, what you do, what you think. Have a real conversation? It is still possible right? Things are quiet these days, winding down as there is so much to "deal" with. Send me a message if you like. We can chat private if that's where you are at. There is a ton of stuff here to look at all free, and I don't know who you are or your background without you saying something. All my ideas and opinions are here, through the various threads. <3 . I was a member on this forum, but have deleted my account here a whole while ago. I appreciate all the members here, including you, but my perspectives have shifted. The name I use is a pen name that I use as a co-author to these books. The pen name is just to keep my privacy, there is nothing inauthentic about it. Moreover, who I am behind these books is not important. It is the content that we provide that serves to help humanity that is important. I appreciate you being so kind to have me publish the books here and I apologize for the several quotes I made, which wasn't my intent. However, as a guest you apparently can't go back to your original post to edit it, which is why I had to quote myself to add the rest of what I posted. Thank you for your comment.
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Post by IW on Oct 1, 2023 12:03:58 GMT
Whatever has helped you/ feel free to share. Anyone who has gotten these books I also would be interested to know how they've helped. Thanks
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Post by IW on Dec 24, 2023 13:27:05 GMT
I have become skeptical about quite some concepts that I came to believe in over the last few years. I recently found the pdf file of Endall Beall in which he clarified the Don Juan teachings about the 2nd cognition awareness, which I posted elsewhere on this forum before. Endall is the first researcher who touched me on a very deep level and what he is telling and writing about deeply resonates with me. I know this will not resonate with some of you, but it does with me. The fact is that in the spiritual community we are only talking about exiting this 3D matrix, about how bad this world is, that our lives are just illusions, that we are divine and special and how we don't want to be human anymore. But what is indeed wrong with being human? Could it be that we are simply being withheld by this limited perception to become the real human in us? I didn't put Endall under the Icons category, because I know he doesn't see himself as an icon or even as a spiritual teacher. He is just some human like you and me who managed to get rid of all his ego beliefs and succeeded in advancing to that second cognition awareness level. I think this was Blossom posting. This video is gone, and I don't know where she is on her journey. Her thoughts on "endall" reaching second cognition awareness.. Does this still hold true in 2024 ? I find it interesting that so many make statements, this one made over 4 years ago. Who is to know the current state of Blossom, or Endall, or any other person.? I make no criticism, but it's always the end that matters, not the starting.. I do hope if their aim was to make a living off of their books that there is a reward and they get what is due to them. I totally agree too that there is nothing wrong with being human, life is what you make it and that can change daily.
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