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Post by kellsbells on Jun 1, 2019 0:09:19 GMT
To start with I will give some background context as to what was going on in my life and how the vision(s) came about. I was about 25 or 26 and had been experiencing paralysis dreams on a regular basis that always scared the ever living life out of me. I would be terrified, believing I was wide awake and unable to move or open my eyes, so my big go to move to protect myself from whatever invader I thought I could hear was to pretend I was asleep! lol, smooth move kells ! I know now from the previous forum that could be the beginning of an OBE, but I had no idea at that time. I started having these a few years after a man I had met in a drafting class, had told me about his nightly sojourns out of his body to see all of the lovely places on the earth, so he had no need for vacations. I was very intriqued with this idea. So, this "new info" probably contributed to this new development of these dream states. I was also really searching for the truth, was reading a lot, but having grown up in a non practicing Catholic home, I had also been indoctrinated in the christian belief system. But I had been reading Edgar Cayce's life story, seen Chariots of the Gods when I was much younger, been reading new age stuff and I thought I had seen a few UFO's a few times. I was living alone for the first time as an adult after a big break-up and had moved into a 4plex, which is 4 units, 2 bsmt suites and a common laundry area. I met a young man from the upstairs suite I started hanging out with and felt I was really falling for. He lived with 4 or 5 other students and they were all going to the local tech school and were from America. This man and I talked into the night about all these new concepts and tried to make sense of it all in terms of the biblical scriptures etc., neither of us really having attended church but had read the new testament and several of the old testaments' books, including Revelations. So one day we were going to go skiing and i was over the moon because what a great day, with a new love talking about all these idea's without being defined by outside authorities. While driving up to the mountain the day turned into a very bad snow storm, so much so that skiing would be impossible and so we decided to head back to town because in his small car, it would be too dangerous to continue onward. So he was driving, we're on our way back and we are having to drive about half the speed limit on the highway because the visibility is so bad. But no worries, I'm in love, and we are discussing revelations, etc. But he is upset because of all the destruction and is angry because feels as an innocent, with no control, what kind of end is that for everyone, etc. what kind of God does, that, so we are starting to question, WTH is going on with these terrible prophsies promising utter destruction. It's not right, fair, etc.. Which I agree with and more, so I say, because I just felt it with pure love and child like innocence, I said " I don't know, but I think that when our backs are really against the wall, when everything looks the bleakest, they'll come, something will happen and I think it will be ok" I declared with love and trust and great emotion in my heart. Then, I turned my head to look out the window at the swirling snowstorm and suddenly it transformed into a clear day and in the sky were thousands and thousands of tiny space craft, all of them white and shaped very much like that little craft that The Great Gazoo (from the Flintstones cartoon) would show up and zoom around in to talk to Fred and Barney. Only Fred and Barney could see him and right away I thought they looked like The Great Gazoo's tiny craft. They looked like that, typical round spheroid craft with a little dome we come to associate with flying saucers. And as I watched it I realized I was been shown a truth, and I watched this scene for 10 minutes or longer, it seemed like a very long time, while tears streamed down my face and I felt safe, loved and very confused because I sure wasn't expecting no space crafts as the "saviors" shall we say. I couldn't say a word to the man, I just kept quiet and watched them hover, as far as the eye could see, and then slowly the snow storm resumed it's swirling white fury around us and I just kept silent until I regained my composure and said nothing to him. I thought back then, I would be considered crazy, and I did not want to drive that fellow away with that information. I just brought up another topic and we obviously made it home safely. I have come to understand in reviewing this vision, with new found knowledge and information, that each of those crafts, could be our own higher selves. which could look like or manifest like a "rapture or ascension" for the true seeds. I do realize that I could also have been "shown this because I was vulnerable and my emotions used to manipulate me". I do remember feeling very much at the time that I was being shown the truth, but I have come to question that, knowing now how easily I have been manipulated in the past due to my naivety or gullibility. After this I did go and call my sisters and talk about this a great deal - I was ridiculed and asked if I was on drugs repeatedly, and I was probably hallucinating, etc. So I didn't tell anyone else about it for a great many years because I was embarrassed and contemplated that maybe I was seeing things, as they said. However, I had two others after, not nearly do dramatic, and they will each get their own separate post, along with a lucid dream that was related I believe. So I know I wasn't just seeing things. I definitely saw something and I would welcome any of your interpretations.
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Post by ML on Jun 1, 2019 3:41:56 GMT
To start with I will give some background context as to what was going on in my life and how the vision(s) came about. I was about 25 or 26 and had been experiencing paralysis dreams on a regular basis that always scared the ever living life out of me. I would be terrified, believing I was wide awake and unable to move or open my eyes, so my big go to move to protect myself from whatever invader I thought I could hear was to pretend I was asleep! lol, smooth move kells ! I know now from the previous forum that could be the beginning of an OBE, but I had no idea at that time. I started having these a few years after a man I had met in a drafting class, had told me about his nightly sojourns out of his body to see all of the lovely places on the earth, so he had no need for vacations. I was very intriqued with this idea. So, this "new info" probably contributed to this new development of these dream states. I was also really searching for the truth, was reading a lot, but having grown up in a non practicing Catholic home, I had also been indoctrinated in the christian belief system. But I had been reading Edgar Cayce's life story, seen Chariots of the Gods when I was much younger, been reading new age stuff and I thought I had seen a few UFO's a few times. I was living alone for the first time as an adult after a big break-up and had moved into a 4plex, which is 4 units, 2 bsmt suites and a common laundry area. I met a young man from the upstairs suite I started hanging out with and felt I was really falling for. He lived with 4 or 5 other students and they were all going to the local tech school and were from America. This man and I talked into the night about all these new concepts and tried to make sense of it all in terms of the biblical scriptures etc., neither of us really having attended church but had read the new testament and several of the old testaments' books, including Revelations. So one day we were going to go skiing and i was over the moon because what a great day, with a new love talking about all these idea's without being defined by outside authorities. While driving up to the mountain the day turned into a very bad snow storm, so much so that skiing would be impossible and so we decided to head back to town because in his small car, it would be too dangerous to continue onward. So he was driving, we're on our way back and we are having to drive about half the speed limit on the highway because the visibility is so bad. But no worries, I'm in love, and we are discussing revelations, etc. But he is upset because of all the destruction and is angry because feels as an innocent, with no control, what kind of end is that for everyone, etc. what kind of God does, that, so we are starting to question, WTH is going on with these terrible prophsies promising utter destruction. It's not right, fair, etc.. Which I agree with and more, so I say, because I just felt it with pure love and child like innocence, I said " I don't know, but I think that when our backs are really against the wall, when everything looks the bleakest, they'll come, something will happen and I think it will be ok" I declared with love and trust and great emotion in my heart. Then, I turned my head to look out the window at the swirling snowstorm and suddenly it transformed into a clear day and in the sky were thousands and thousands of tiny space craft, all of them white and shaped very much like that little craft that The Great Gazoo (from the Flintstones cartoon) would show up and zoom around in to talk to Fred and Barney. Only Fred and Barney could see him and right away I thought they looked like The Great Gazoo's tiny craft. They looked like that, typical round spheroid craft with a little dome we come to associate with flying saucers. And as I watched it I realized I was been shown a truth, and I watched this scene for 10 minutes or longer, it seemed like a very long time, while tears streamed down my face and I felt safe, loved and very confused because I sure wasn't expecting no space crafts as the "saviors" shall we say. I couldn't say a word to the man, I just kept quiet and watched them hover, as far as the eye could see, and then slowly the snow storm resumed it's swirling white fury around us and I just kept silent until I regained my composure and said nothing to him. I thought back then, I would be considered crazy, and I did not want to drive that fellow away with that information. I just brought up another topic and we obviously made it home safely. I have come to understand in reviewing this vision, with new found knowledge and information, that each of those crafts, could be our own higher selves. which could look like or manifest like a "rapture or ascension" for the true seeds. I do realize that I could also have been "shown this because I was vulnerable and my emotions used to manipulate me". I do remember feeling very much at the time that I was being shown the truth, but I have come to question that, knowing now how easily I have been manipulated in the past due to my naivety or gullibility. After this I did go and call my sisters and talk about this a great deal - I was ridiculed and asked if I was on drugs repeatedly, and I was probably hallucinating, etc. So I didn't tell anyone else about it for a great many years because I was embarrassed and contemplated that maybe I was seeing things, as they said. However, I had two others after, not nearly do dramatic, and they will each get their own separate post, along with a lucid dream that was related I believe. So I know I wasn't just seeing things. I definitely saw something and I would welcome any of your interpretations. my experience is a bit similar. I thought the skies is a wall and the gods are there. I was trying to reach it. i end up in a mental institution. LOL.
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Post by kellsbells on Jun 1, 2019 4:10:53 GMT
Vision #2: This one happened while living in this same basement suite - I had come home from an evening out and was lying in bed trying to sleep, but I am always have trouble drifting off, even if I am exhausted. Which I was this night, just exhausted physically and really wanting to sleep but lying there with my eyes open not really even thinking of anything. All of a sudden beside the bed a very clear image of a beautiful native man appeared, just from his chest up, he had long hair from which 2 feathers hung at the side. He gave me a big beautiful smile and I realized he had the exact same mouth and teeth and smile as me and I realized I was seeing myself, which at the time, I thought was from a past life. He had a bone breastplate on and was clearly a warrior, he started to rotate around and when his face came back round it was now a mask, which looked very much like the masks from the Haida Indigenous art masks I've seen. I just watched and kept silent and then the image just vanished. I don't know what to make of this vision, I had no feelings going on that I can recall and it happened so non-dramatically that I never gave it much thought. I told my sisters about this vision and the consensus was that I may be going through a kind of awakening of latent skills as our great grandmother and grandmother were known to have visions and such too. As per usual though, they did ask if I was drunk or high or something. So again was kind of shut down and didn't dare discuss this with anyone else.
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Post by kellsbells on Jun 1, 2019 5:48:53 GMT
The Lucid/sleep paralysis dream: This sleep paralysis lucid dream scared the bejesus out of me so bad, it was the last sleep paralysis experience I had. I was still living in my little bsmt suite, and the man that I was interested in that lived in the same bldg and whom I thought I was in love with, was finished technical school and him and his room mates were going to be returning to the States soon. Our little affair wasn't going was basically over. Anyway this one night I am in the middle of a sleep paralysis again and I hear someone coming down the stairs, I can't move and "the perp" comes into my bedroom. I am frantic with fear because I can't move and I am able to open my eyes finally but the room is pitch black and I can't see anything. I still can't move and the person starts to climb on top of me to rape me. I am trying frantically to fully waken but a soothing voice in my head says "stay calm, pretend you are ok with this, find out who it is, stay calm" So I am able to start moving a bit and I run put my arms around the person and draw them in and pretend I'm into it as the voice still keeps advising me to stay calm, this will save my life. I run my hands along his back and can feel every single bone jutting out from his spine and I can feel every single rib, this person is so thin he is emaciated, and with this realization I am able to finally break free from the paralysis and fling myself up in bed, just screaming and screaming. I was scared beyond measure and I knew that this was real information. As ususal I called my sisters the next day and went over it and by this time after our discussions, they realize I am really truly scared and that this may have been a premonition so to keep my head up. A few days latter, which is a Friday, I come home from work and park in the my spot in the back as I am walking to my door I see that the students are packing and moving their stuff for their move this week-end back to the states. It's early spring so quite chilly still and out on the deck watching me return is one fellow I hadn't really seen before, but he was absolutely emaciated and staring at me with such crazy eyes that it made my blood run cold. I instantly realized it was him from my lucid dream - I scurry inside and go to the phone and call my sister immediately to tell her about this. She says, get out of there right now, like right bloody now! I was like, but I have got to get ready to go out tonight. She says you are not going anywhere but coming here - you pack a few things, leave this instant and you are coming here for the week-end to make sure they are gone and out of town. So I did exactly that, I threw a few things into a bag and left for 3 full nights and didn't go back till I knew for sure they were gone. I am certain that paralysis dream saved my life or at the minimum a very very bad experience. After that, I have never had another sleep paralysis experience and I didn't have another vision till about 6 or 7 years ago.
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Post by kellsbells on Jun 1, 2019 20:13:38 GMT
My 3rd Vision: Several years ago now I was in my home and it was mid-afternoon on a super lovely and warm summer day. I had been viewing information and news about the oil sands projects in Alberta (the tailings ponds are so large they can be seen from space and are as large as Florida!!!). These highly toxic tailings ponds leach into the Athabasca river and the environmental distruction is massive. I am feeling so sad for the state of the world, then, I watch my neighbor go into our common neighbors yard and begin to spray the neighbors grass and "weeds" while they are not home (they had like 5 young kids under the age of 10 at the time). I go over to confront him because he has no business doing this in their yard and those kids play on that grass all the time. He pretends innocence, he's just "taking care of the weed's". I tell him he's poisoning the earth and it's in enough trouble and he has no business poisoning the neighbors yard. He says this is organic - I point out the poison symbol and the skull and cross bones on his "Round-up" and in a tremulous voice tell him if he wants to poison himself, that's fine, but to do it sneakily to his little neighbors is diabolical, the world is full of toxins because people like him refuse to stop poisoning themselves and their environment. He is taken aback by my emotion, apologizes profusely and I go back into my house all rattled. I stand at my front window to look out at the day and I am overcome with profound love and sadness for poor mother Gaia and with fervor and child like love, I begin to beg for her life (in my mind) and for the population to wake the hell up and stop this madness. The vision then begins to unfold where I "see" everything is consciousness, everything and I am shown how it is formed into matter by the ether and by our thoughts. Everything is conscious, even the pollution. I am shown that the carbon from the burned blood (oil) of mother earth is desperate to get back into the safety of her body. I watched as I saw how literally everything is coalesced into matter, including myself. If anyone has seen the movie Jumanji, and when the people are sucked into the game, they come apart into particles and reassemble in the game the same way. Like that. Or another example it was kind of like in Star Trek, with the "beam me up Scotty" - it looked like that a bit. So everything is particles and via consciousness becomes matter. I watch in utter fascination as I realized I was being shown a truth again. The solidness of the world returned and with it I had a greater understanding that we will all be ok, because as pure consciousness, we definitely control the ether and once we learn how to communicate with it, we can literally fix or repair anything we set our minds to. It doesn't take long for the euphoria of such a vision to leave however, but a euphoria it does bring and you feel a connection to all things that wasn't there before. Even though I still get alarmed by the various calamities that befall the earth I know there isn't that much I can do other than to live the life that I want and to do my part to "do no harm".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 11:29:01 GMT
Tbh sounds like a deception from the looks of it at least, often we are shown 'things' just to get you interested whether the contents be true, false or in between. A sort of bait.
Also here is a extract I got from clarity of being site, to do with lucid dreaming which also applies to sleep paralysis. "'Lucid dreams' are generally regarded as a really smart thing to get into, but the truth is that the moment you've got into what people call a lucid dream, you've actually stopped dreaming and have entered part of your awareness into an astral realm.... if you do make a practice of getting into those experiences, you're getting yourself progressively more ungrounded and in the control of the garbage."
I recommend that site generally he talks about how "the garbage" (dark force) "gives story" to get you involved in it. Of course it is fine and can be good to gain things from an experience and stuff just that best not to get involved deeply, as it can easily lead to a deception trip. It's best not to over think it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 12:44:47 GMT
Thank you for sharing Kells.
I have shared this story before but one night back in the spring of 1996 I had a very vision like dream. I was given several views of the sides of mountains falling away, Landslides and the vision was clear, much like watching a movie. After the visual I was given a date. October 28 1998.
Unlike most dreams this one stayed with me and that date stayed on my mind. A year and a half later as the date approached I kept my eye on world events.
There was a huge hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico bearing down on Central America. Before I went to sleep on that date the hurricane quickly downgraded into a much less powerful storm. Now when I woke up the next day the headlines read that 24 inches of rain fell on Honduras and other surrounding countries. 10-11 thousand people died in mudslides.
My question was and is why me for this vision? What was I suppose to do with it? Warn who? Even if I knew where this event was to take place who would have listened anyway? Did I unconsciously tap into a time frame different than my own? I was shocked the vision came true. I still think about it all these years later.
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Post by IW on Jun 2, 2019 13:32:48 GMT
Thanks for sharing those experiences Kellsbells!
I've had similar feelings/frustrations in my life over other peoples carelessness or ignorance or outright blatant stupidity in regards to Mother Urth. As living souls here we are all connected and sharing in that "consciousness".
It brings be back to JohnBest and those that feel there is a way to politically or socially make things right again in this world- if we all joined together and worked hard. I used to get so mad when I saw people throwing trash out their window while driving, or dumping their Mcdonnall garbage in parking lots, just trash all over wherever you go. No respect at all for Urth. It's a fallen realm, sort of like the humpty dumpty rhyme.
As far as the lucid dreams and visions, I don't have them near as often as I used to, something has changed in the past year or so, and I've just let it go, having them or not is not a priority. I have a lot of respect for Mr. Goddard's site, have spent at least a solid month there reading all his info and experiences.
The bottom line for me, is that you bring your fears, hopes, vulnerabilities, expectations and all the hidden parts of yourself wherever you go, this includes going into the astral realm. I do believe you were warning yourself about that person wanting to harm you. I 110% believe there is nothing to fear except fear itself, no matter whether you are in the astral realm or somewhere beyond, it's those shadow parts of us, that maybe we have no understanding of and can't accept that creates bad experiences.
I really like how you "felt" out those visions, not throwing them away immediately, but not grabbing onto them and trusting them either. Non-action sometimes really is the best action, and going on with the day.
Those thousands of tiny space vessels, it feels like that is replicating how we are not the body. We have body awareness, but we go outside of the body also. Everything we experience on the inside, reflects itself out "there" also. So we can choose to feel safe, secure, and cared for, because ultimately whatever happens to the body, doesn't really touch us, unless we choose to let it. (Interesting that you were talking of terrible prophecies and revelations etc at that time...)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 20:30:02 GMT
I wrote my original post in a hurry just to write a few things, so here is another post. Some people won't understand or be able to relate to things, whether it be a lack of experience or 'mind' programming of sorts.
As i've seen it if you do want to tell someone something different or 'strange', judge what they already do understand/have experience of, as well as how open they are. Then work from there, tell them as much as you can in a way that they can relate. But don't feel like you have to tell someone. At least that is how I go about it lol. And yeah know peoples limits. Because most people will find stuff like that weird i think even with the more open people. Though, thanks for sharing all this here, that is very cool.
I've had a lot of strange things happen to me but yeah hardly have told anyone. I think really it is what you get out of it. One thing you do realise is that there are very, strange seeming experiences that people try to hide or do not accept it does spark something. It is though too easy to get lost in a story or attached to that sense of achievement or eureka moments. For me i do have a little bit of saviour complex wanting to improve things (not sure if success has come from it ;p but the priority is on myself i guess lol even then still seemingly screwing up).
I have had fair few sleep paralysis moments, and they are really quite scary :/ I had them most often in my worst times. Oh and yeah it sucks for poor earth.. until things change. It is crazy how some people think the way to fix things is to develop countries even more or store energy better. When things really need to change a lot more drastically.
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Post by kellsbells on Jun 18, 2019 16:14:28 GMT
"I thought they looked like The Great Gazoo's tiny craft. They looked like that, typical round spheroid craft with a little dome we come to associate with flying saucers."
My opinion of the first vision, after all these years, has of course changed - I didn't know for sure what I was seeing. But I have determined, after more information from this site and others, and that is that each individual craft is actually our "over soul" or perhaps our "higher self", they are always around loving and waiting for us. We are our own saviours and our Over Soul or Higher Self will be there when the time comes to assist, help and guide us safely home.
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