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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2018 12:08:53 GMT
Nobody is right, nobody is wrong. Everyone of us has his/her own personal path and truth inside and I think we need to respect eachother’s truth. The ability to witness what we see, hear, etc without judgement is our true protection and our true way. My personal truth is what my Higher Self (my Parents) show me and this personal truth is diferent for anyone of us. We all are one, but unique. We are here to help, support, encourage eachother and that is what I like about this forum. This is a place where anyone of us can be his/her true self!
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Post by IW on Dec 18, 2018 0:28:52 GMT
I think we should remind ourselves that any divergent opinion whether its placed here or out in the world somewhere is NOT a personal attack.
If a person is "feeling" attacked by an opinion then the real question is why. WHY take anything personally, why feel diminished by what is perceived?
If you have a belief then that belief should be able to withstand whatever is being said or done. If it starts to shake and possibly crumble, does this mean we are less for it, or greater for it?? Acceptance makes the difference for which is to be the outcome.
I am of the belief that what is inside becomes what is outside, therefore letting the inside out in a natural and friendly way is much much more beneficial, than letting it out sideways or unconsciously.
Thanks Blossom. I appreciate your postings and presence.
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Dec 21, 2018 14:43:56 GMT
This may be a good thread to post some paragraphs from "Can You Stand the Truth"... Personally I do believe there is such a thing as THE TRUTH but equally I believe that we are not able to perceive that TRUTH because our limited senses only enable us to see the fragmented pieces.... So one can never explain in words (which are limiting) what THE TRUTH is. It needs an Inner Knowing and that can never be expressed in this realm. Of course these are just my (current) views.. . ---- THE TRUTH So, you want to know the Truth! Men however, often say that the Truth can sometimes be quite painful! Fragments of the Truth are found scattered throughout man’s history. In that fragmented state however, men cannot perceive It as a complete picture. So, they prefer to choose that particle of Truth that suits their idiosyncrasy best. From another point of view however, a truly unbiased observer of life itself can feel his way to the Truth. But since what he will finally discover will be very unpleasant, he will prefer to turn a blind eye; and the result? Men cannot stand holding the Truth in their hands as a whole, so they cast It as far away as they can. Then, they bury their heads in the sand of the material world like ostriches in danger, and go on living in company with the fragmented part of the truth that has remained in their hand. This is all they have the power to hold! We have, in conclusion, the subjective truth of each man who also believes that it is different from the fragmented piece of truth of his fellow man. What is really happening though is that the different pieces of the Truth that each one possesses can only be isolated parts of the ONE and absolute Truth. Let me give you an example which is very characteristic of what I am trying to say: You must certainly be aware of Newton’s experiment. He painted a round disk with the seven basic rainbow colors (iris) that correspond to each frequency range of the light spectrum. He started with red, the color with the longest wave length, immediately after that he painted the color orange, then the yellow, the green, the blue, the cyan and finally he painted the violet (mauve), which has the shortest wave-length. On the round disk therefore, all seven colors of the spectrum could be seen, one by one, in sequence. When the disk started spinning fast though, these colors ceased to appear separate as before, and their place was taken over by the white color alone. This is exactly what happens with the different views/ truths of people, and the ONE TRUTH. The One Truth looks like the white light ray. When it falls onto the crystal prism though, it is deflected into the seven colors of the rainbow and creates the ‘polychrome’ of views and opinions. Men, immobilized and chained by the bonds of their weaknesses onto their own angle/ view as they are, choose ‘red’ for example as their vista/ truth and disagree with the other group of similarly immobilized and chained men who choose the ‘yellow’ expression of truth. A third immobilized group chooses as their personal worldview the aspect of ‘cyan’, and scold the ‘green’ position, and so on. This is what happens with all different positions and views of people; the result? They are all right, and at the same time wrong. In other words, they all have a portion of ‘justness’, as we will examine later. The Complete Truth is not to be found in any isolated color/ position, but simultaneously in all of them; this Wholeness of the Truth is expressed in this experiment/ example, by the white color, which is the result of the synthesis of all colors together. This is, after all, what your natural science claims! So this is what I mean, when I ask you whether you could bear a face-to-face encounter with the complete picture of the Truth, the ‘white’, or whether you are merely interested in some fragmented part of it that suits your idiosyncratic ‘coloration’. Anagnostou - Kalogera, Angeliki. Can You Stand The Truth?: The Chronicle of Man's Imprisonment: Last Call! (pp. 37-38). Angeliki Anagnostou - Kalogera. Kindle Edition.
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Dec 21, 2018 15:05:38 GMT
I had left my compass on the table, with its bronze lid closed. A delicate flower was painted on the lid, decorated with beautiful colors. He took it in his hands and showed it to me, turning the decorated lid towards my side, thus leaving the bronze bottom side of the compass facing him.
– Do you see this object? I want you to describe to me what you see right this moment, in every detail. –
I can see a round metallic box that has a very beautiful flower painted on it.
–You are mistaken, he answered. There is no flower painted on this bronze box. You are probably imagining the flower. What my eyes see is just a round bronze box.
I looked at him feeling some wheels of my mind slowly starting to spin and smiled.
–So, could you tell me which one of us is right about this box?
–I believe we both are, according to our individual point of view.
–This is what people always do. They disagree with the portion of the truth that others see, as opposed to the part of the truth they themselves see. All men always have a percentage of rightfulness on their side. And they always expect this percentage of rightfulness to be accredited to them.
Anagnostou - Kalogera, Angeliki. Can You Stand The Truth?: The Chronicle of Man's Imprisonment: Last Call! (p. 40). Angeliki Anagnostou - Kalogera. Kindle Edition.
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Post by girlscout on Dec 21, 2018 17:04:14 GMT
I had left my compass on the table, with its bronze lid closed. A delicate flower was painted on the lid, decorated with beautiful colors. He took it in his hands and showed it to me, turning the decorated lid towards my side, thus leaving the bronze bottom side of the compass facing him. – Do you see this object? I want you to describe to me what you see right this moment, in every detail. – I can see a round metallic box that has a very beautiful flower painted on it. –You are mistaken, he answered. There is no flower painted on this bronze box. You are probably imagining the flower. What my eyes see is just a round bronze box. I looked at him feeling some wheels of my mind slowly starting to spin and smiled. –So, could you tell me which one of us is right about this box? –I believe we both are, according to our individual point of view. – This is what people always do. They disagree with the portion of the truth that others see, as opposed to the part of the truth they themselves see. All men always have a percentage of rightfulness on their side. And they always expect this percentage of rightfulness to be accredited to them.Anagnostou - Kalogera, Angeliki. Can You Stand The Truth?: The Chronicle of Man's Imprisonment: Last Call! (p. 40). Angeliki Anagnostou - Kalogera. Kindle Edition. Seems to me we get to create our truth - our perspectives help manifest what we experience outwardly. Seems true to me, anyway.
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