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Post by wornout on Jan 28, 2021 5:45:01 GMT
Merck Scraps COVID Vaccines; Says It’s More Effective To Get The Virus And RecoverShots generated an ‘inferior’ immune system response in comparison with natural infection Vaccine manufacturer Merck has abandoned development of two coronavirus vaccines, saying that after extensive research it was concluded that the shots offered less protection than just contracting the virus itself and developing antibodies.summit.news/2021/01/26/merck-scraps-covid-vaccines-says-its-more-effective-to-get-the-virus-and-recover/ Merck Discontinues Development of SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 Vaccine Candidates; Continues Development of Two Investigational Therapeutic Candidates www.merck.com/news/merck-discontinues-development-of-sars-cov-2-covid-19-vaccine-candidates-continues-development-of-two-investigational-therapeutic-candidates/
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Post by wornout on Feb 7, 2021 4:21:33 GMT
vaccine warning by doctor.... a real feeling human being.
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Post by OneWhoIsAwake on Feb 16, 2021 15:22:19 GMT
'Healthy' South Florida doctor died 2 weeks after receiving COVID-19 vaccine
CDC launches probe after ‘very healthy’ Miami doctor dies 2 weeks after taking Pfizer’s Covid-19 jab
SICKLY JAB Doctor dies and 36 others ‘develop rare blood disorder after getting Moderna and Pfizer Covid vaccines’
PLEASE DO TAKE NOTE OF THIS:
COVID-19 mRNA Shots Are Legally Not Vaccines — They’re Experimental Gene Therapies
Moderna Admits: mRNA Jabs Are an ‘Operating System’ Designed to Program Humans
THIS IS NOT A VACCINE. THEY ARE LYING TO US.
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Post by griffo on Feb 23, 2021 11:14:55 GMT
I don't want to get into too much discussion so I leave my thoughts here. Vaccines are very important against Covid. The ones in the western world have gone through a lot of trials. While there are some concerns like unkown long term effects And certain vaccines like pfizer ones using a new technology overall the benefit outweighs the cost for most people at least the ones who aren't highly allergic etc. Lives have been lost over covid and more is gained over having vaccine. In most cases people come off with only mild symptoms if any and here after vaccination they check if all is well. A certain proportion of the population needs to take the vaccine. While forcing people is a concern I think people still need to be encouraged to.
Much of the people talking against vaccines are making false claims anyway. And as well as that if you drink alcohol or smoke etc or exposed to certain pollutants or even eat certain things that is much worse.
There are certain vaccines which haven't been tested well or are concerning but that is not all of them. I do think we shouldn't take needless drugs but these sorts of times it becomes important.
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Post by OneWhoIsAwake on Feb 23, 2021 22:50:58 GMT
I don't want to get into too much discussion so I leave my thoughts here. Vaccines are very important against Covid. The ones in the western world have gone through a lot of trials. While there are some concerns like unkown long term effects And certain vaccines like pfizer ones using a new technology overall the benefit outweighs the cost for most people at least the ones who aren't highly allergic etc. Lives have been lost over covid and more is gained over having vaccine. In most cases people come off with only mild symptoms if any and here after vaccination they check if all is well. A certain proportion of the population needs to take the vaccine. While forcing people is a concern I think people still need to be encouraged to. Much of the people talking against vaccines are making false claims anyway. And as well as that if you drink alcohol or smoke etc or exposed to certain pollutants or even eat certain things that is much worse. There are certain vaccines which haven't been tested well or are concerning but that is not all of them. I do think we shouldn't take needless drugs but these sorts of times it becomes important. Hi griffo,
Before rolling up the sleeve and subjecting yourself to the mass experiment upon human beings, I do suggest that you watch these and look into it much deeper.
Agenda 21: The Great Reset - Part II archive.org/details/Agenda21TGROriginal source UPDATE ABOUT OUR DOCUMENTARY
www.stopworldcontrol.com/en/
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 4:59:54 GMT
I am not 100% against vaccines but will not be taking this one. Karin my partner for 26 years is immune compromised but does not want it either. We both work in the same building dealing with the general public and have gone this far in a high risk environment and survived. We will take our chances.
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Post by griffo on Feb 24, 2021 8:05:28 GMT
I don't want to get into too much discussion so I leave my thoughts here. Vaccines are very important against Covid. The ones in the western world have gone through a lot of trials. While there are some concerns like unkown long term effects And certain vaccines like pfizer ones using a new technology overall the benefit outweighs the cost for most people at least the ones who aren't highly allergic etc. Lives have been lost over covid and more is gained over having vaccine. In most cases people come off with only mild symptoms if any and here after vaccination they check if all is well. A certain proportion of the population needs to take the vaccine. While forcing people is a concern I think people still need to be encouraged to. Much of the people talking against vaccines are making false claims anyway. And as well as that if you drink alcohol or smoke etc or exposed to certain pollutants or even eat certain things that is much worse. There are certain vaccines which haven't been tested well or are concerning but that is not all of them. I do think we shouldn't take needless drugs but these sorts of times it becomes important. Hi griffo,
Before rolling up the sleeve and subjecting yourself to the mass experiment upon human beings, I do suggest that you watch these and look into it much deeper.
Agenda 21: The Great Reset - Part II archive.org/details/Agenda21TGROriginal source UPDATE ABOUT OUR DOCUMENTARY
www.stopworldcontrol.com/en/It's not a mass experiment in the sense of some cruel thing and thats a lot of stuff for a guest to post also lol ;P Sure there is the worry that experimental technology is being used in certain covid vaccine (not all) as mentioned, and ofc ppl with money. however they have at least developed dis tech for a long time jus not used in field. The great reset is something the elites are doing to set some kind 'agenda' and is more just their dodgy rich peoples club. However this doesn't change the nature of vaccines. Either way to be 100 per cent against vaccines is kinda crazy lol All vaccines is essentially, a tiny bit of of inactive or weak virus to wake up your immune systems. With some variation to that idea ofc. Its that or getting virus and some people get very ill from much more than a vaccine would. With these covid vaccine it has been succeful it getting rid of hospitalisation. Vaccination is not necessarily for your self but to promote herd immunity and to prevent giving much chance for "germs" to hop between. Vaccination has also been successful at helping in eliminating things completely. And im not gonna give any credence to planned pandemic things especially those with bait headline lol. China have been dodgy with it covering up but they would have not wanted to spread to damage their reputation though they have since used to advantage. It's too farfetched. Just because world governments are taking advantage of the situation at had does not mean planned pandemic lol. This is a video on the great reset
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Post by IW on Feb 24, 2021 11:05:45 GMT
Being for or against something is fine as long as one is able to choose for themselves what they will to do. We should be able to speak without repercussions (cancel culture etc), walk around without being jailed for it with or without masks, and have common decency to allow others to do the same. I do hope that whatever choices are made it is NOT from fear. What is there to fear? Everything or nothing. Death or life? Glad you are doing better Myka! Welcome back Griff
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Post by griffo on Feb 24, 2021 12:55:24 GMT
Being for or against something is fine as long as one is able to choose for themselves what they will to do. We should be able to speak without repercussions (cancel culture etc), walk around without being jailed for it with or without masks, and have common decency to allow others to do the same. I do hope that whatever choices are made it is NOT from fear. What is there to fear? Everything or nothing. Death or life? Glad you are doing better Myka! Welcome back Griff Hiya thanks, And yeah I think it's fine to have an opinion and express it. But there are still people knowingly spreading fake information out there on death counts and such which are downright false, there have been very very few, the more worrying thing is allergic reactions and even those can be controlled or avoided. I think people need to have the right info to decide rather than things like vaccines cause autism and that which the person who made the study later found was false. I think the biggest worry is the new tech thing, here we have astrazenica which uses old tech at least as an alternative but even there I think its most likely pretty low risk compared to most medical procedures and drugs. And there are even people who profit from certain theories not even believing in them. A lot of the reactions against are based on fear of not knowing what could happen. And its understandble. No I don't think if people have questions or doubts or opinons that people dont like they shouldn't speak or censor it all. I don't wear mask often but thats more because I have specific issues making it diffcult to breathe. There are concerns about the effectiveness of standard masks ofc but for most people i think they are sorta alright or at least shouldnt cause problems as such. We need to look at all the information and make a rational decision. I think so far there hasn't been anything really bad come out of these vaccines and mostly very good things, anything is a risk though but it's one that will restore 'normality' (whatever that is) for more people. Cancel culture is an issue though and to suppress ppl only makes them more resentful, but its happening in much more places. But the risk of these things has been pushed up much more than reality.
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Post by wornout on Feb 24, 2021 19:20:20 GMT
System and Method for Testing for COVID-19 Registered by Richard de Rothschild
CDC Vaccine Reports of Death
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 11:25:42 GMT
What is odd is there is no, like near zero flu around this year (influenza) nor do I personally know anyone with a cold and it’s cold season right? I have had a few doozies myself in past years. But now? If you get sick it is COVID. And speaking of COVID I think it is about dead in the water with no new cases going through my workplace in some time. But hey, they have to push the boogers out of this mess declaring new, more deadly strains and there is all that rushed too fast vaccine to sell.
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Post by wornout on Mar 6, 2021 17:41:49 GMT
Moderna DOS: Diabolic Operating System
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Post by wornout on Mar 8, 2021 5:51:26 GMT
Murder by Injection; The Story of the Medical Conspiracy Against America, Eustace Mullins, 1988
In an article in Science, March 4, 1977, Jonas and Darrell Salk warn that. "Live virus vaccines against influenza or poliomyelitis may in each instance produce the disease it intended to prevent—the live virus against measles and mumps may produce such side effects as encephalitis (brain damage)."
If vaccines present such a clear and present danger to children who are forced to submit to them, we must examine the forces which demand that they submit. In the United States, vaccines are actively and incessantly promoted as the solution for all infectious diseases by such government agencies as the Centers for Disease Control in Georgia, by HEW, USPHS, FDA, AMA and WHO. It is of more than passing interest that the federal agencies should be such passionate supporters of compulsory use of vaccines, and that they also should go through the "revolving door" to the big drug firms whose products they have so assiduously promoted, throughout their years of service to the public. It is these federal agents who have drafted the procedures which forced the states to enact compulsory vaccination legislation which had been drafted by the attorneys for the Medical Monopoly, to become "the law of the land."
Medical historians have finally come to the reluctant conclusion that the great flu "epidemic" of 1918 was solely attributable to the widespread use of vaccines. It was the first war in which vaccination was compulsory for all servicemen. The Boston Herald reported that forty-seven soldiers had been killed by vaccination in one month. As a result, the military hospitals were filled, not with wounded combat casualties, but with casualties of the vaccine. The epidemic was called "the Spanish Influenza," a deliberately misleading appellation, which was intended to conceal its origin. This flu epidemic claimed twenty million victims; those who survived it were the ones who had refused the vaccine. In recent years, annual recurring epidemics of flu recalled "the Russian Flu." For some reason, the Russians never protest, perhaps because the Rockefellers make regular trips to Moscow to lay down the party line. The perils of vaccination were already known. Plain Talk magazine notes that "during the Franco-Prussian War, every German soldier was vaccinated. The result was that 53,288 otherwise healthy men developed smallpox. The death rate was high."
At the annual ACS Science Writers Seminar, Dr. Robert W. Simpson, of Rutgers University, warned that "immunization programs against flu, measles, mumps and polio may actually be seeding humans with RNA to form provirus's which will then become latent cells throughout the body...they can then become activated as a variety of diseases including lupus, cancer, rheumatism and arthritis."
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Post by ConcernedSovereign on Mar 23, 2021 3:30:54 GMT
Vaccine: twenty countries suspend injections; does that make you “hesitant?”Mar 22 by Jon Rappoport by Jon Rappoport March 19, 2021 (To join our email list, click here.) The Guardian: “Several European countries have halted using the Oxford/AstraZeneca Covid vaccine…” The Guardian has a brand new definition of “several.” Their own article lists the following nations: Austria, Estonia, Latvia, Luxembourg, Lithuania, Romania, Denmark, Norway, Iceland, The Netherlands, Ireland, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Slovenia, Cyprus, Sweden. Bulgaria and Thailand have also stopped the jab. The reason for the “pause?” A “small” number of people have developed blood clots. And now, as I write this, the Wall St. Journal is reporting that European Union medical regulators have decided everything is OK—“the benefits of the shots outweigh the risks.” Standard boilerplate language for: “we don’t have to explain the vaccine injuries or deaths.” If you believe just a few people with blood clots caused 20 countries to stop giving the jabs, I have condos on Mars for sale. Hidden behind the firewall of the vaccine establishment, MANY people are keeling over. And why wouldn’t they? Governments and pharma companies have rushed a new experimental RNA technology into use, for the first time in history. Prior to the COVID injection, all attempts to force approval of RNA tech had failed; dangerous and deadly over-reaction of the immune system was the reason. Since I seem to be one of the only people saying this, I’ll say it again: Bill Gates, Fauci, and other rabid vaccinators are in love with RNA tech. It allows vaccines to be produced far more quickly, easily, and cheaply. For any purported virus, at the drop of a hat, companies can come up with a vaccine. It doesn’t take four years. It takes three months. “We just discovered a virus that crossed over from geese. And here’s a new one from Easter bunnies. And another new one just drifted in from Jupiter. We’ll have vaccines ready by Christmas. The seventh mutation of SARS-CoV-2 has its own vaccine as of yesterday. If you want to take the kiddies to Disneyland, find one of those pretty pink vans parked in your town, take the shot and receive your updated Immunity Certificate…” Then there is this: the COVID vaccines manufactured by AstraZeneca, Pfizer, and Moderna are completely ineffective at preventing serious illness. BY DESIGN.
Months ago, a NY Times piece, by Peter Doshi and Eric Topol, spelled it out.
September 22, 2020: “These Coronavirus Trials Don’t Answer the One Question We Need to Know”:
“If you were to approve a coronavirus vaccine, would you approve one that you only knew protected people only from the most mild form of Covid-19, or one that would prevent its serious complications?” [Clue: “most mild” means cough, or chills and fever, which cure themselves without the need for a vaccine.]
“The answer is obvious. You would want to protect against the worst cases.”
“But that’s not how the companies testing three of the leading coronavirus vaccine candidates, Moderna, Pfizer and AstraZeneca, whose U.S. trial is on hold, are approaching the problem.”
“According to the protocols for their studies, which they released late last week, a vaccine could meet the companies’ benchmark for success if it lowered the risk of mild Covid-19, but was never shown to reduce moderate or severe forms of the disease, or the risk of hospitalization, admissions to the intensive care unit or death.”
“To say a vaccine works should mean that most people no longer run the risk of getting seriously sick. That’s not what these trials will determine.”
The COVID shot: dangerous AND ineffective.
Trump’s coronavirus task force knew the truth. Biden’s task force knows the truth. But they don’t care.
The CDC and the WHO know. They don’t care, either.
But these authorities are very nervous, because droves of people are avoiding the vaccine. It’s not “hesitancy.”
It’s utter rejection.
Sensible rejection.
It began soon after the initial rollout of the Pfizer vaccine. NBC News, December 31, 2020:
“A large percentage of front-line workers in hospitals and nursing homes have refused to take the Covid-19 vaccine…”
“About 50 percent of front-line workers in California’s Riverside County have refused to take the vaccine…”
“Anecdotally, an estimated 60 percent of Ohio nursing home employees have refused the vaccine already…”
“A survey of 2,053 New York City firefighters found that more than half said they would refuse the Covid-19 vaccine when it became available to them…”
And all that was long before 20 countries suspended the injection.
I’ll close, for now, with two statements about the role vaccines have played in eliminating deaths from diseases—because true history matters:
“The combined death rate from scarlet fever, diphtheria, whooping cough and measles among children up to fifteen shows that nearly 90 percent of the total decline in mortality between 1860 and 1965 had occurred before the introduction of antibiotics and widespread immunization. In part, this recession may be attributed to improved housing and to a decrease in the virulence of micro-organisms, but by far the most important factor was a higher host-resistance due to better nutrition.” Ivan Illich, Medical Nemesis, Bantam Books, 1977
Robert F Kennedy, Jr.: “After extensively studying a century of recorded data, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and Johns Hopkins researchers concluded: ‘Thus vaccinations does not account for the impressive declines in mortality from infectious diseases seen in the first half of the twentieth century’.”
“Similarly, in 1977, Boston University epidemiologists (and husband and wife) John and Sonja McKinlay published their seminal work in the Millbank Memorial Fund Quarterly on the role that vaccines (and other medical interventions) played in the massive 74% decline in mortality seen in the twentieth century: ‘The Questionable Contribution of Medical Measures to the Decline of Mortality in the United States in the Twentieth Century’.”
“In this article, which was formerly required reading in U.S. medical schools, the McKinlays pointed out that 92.3% of the mortality rate decline happened between 1900 and 1950, before most vaccines existed, and that all medical measures, including antibiotics and surgeries, ‘appear to have contributed little to the overall decline in mortality in the United States since about 1900 — having in many instances been introduced several decades after a marked decline had already set in and having no detectable influence in most instances’.”
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Post by griffo on Mar 23, 2021 8:06:38 GMT
What's inside the vaccines Pfizer ingredients blackdoctor.org/these-are-all-the-ingredients-of-pfizers-covid-vaccine/ Astrazenica www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/covid-19-what-ingredients-oxfordastrazeneca-19538759 Moderna faqs.in.gov/hc/en-us/articles/360054156652-What-are-the-ingredients-in-the-Moderna-COVID-19-Vaccine- Here is covid been isolated fullfact.org/health/Covid-isolated-virus/The empty hospital thing is fake too just people spreading panic supposed videos of empty corridors which is really ppl just running in to find random empty places. Like the ppl who are patients and the nurses say they are busy what was the point of them lying when they delayed so many medical appointments. www.msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/claims-that-uk-hospitals-are-empty-are-false-the-myths-debunked/ar-BB1cEuPx?MSCC=1604475515 Astrazenica Vaccine have been proven to stop hospitalisation completely. All vaccine is a probability game. But they have been out for a while and there really has been very little of bad effects. It's a bigger worry to go and drive in a car. What I don't recomend is chinese vaccine especially with fake ones. Nobody is forcing vaccine atm anyway usually only around 80 per cent is needed for herd immunity. Meanwhile with an infectious virus it's very hard to achieve herd immunity without a vaccine. That's why this vaccine is there. The general idea from vaccines are there to give you immune response. What you should be worried about is catching covid though especially if you are older or got a condition of sorts or are fat or living a unhealthy lifestyle. There are very bad long term symptoms you can get, as well as loss of taste and smell and the breathing issues. And early death for some even. The reason it took less time to make is different technology. Exactly what depends which vaccine with Pfizer or moderna and that yea they only needed dna sequence. The technology has been in test for years and years prior to it. So once they had that it was a matter of sitting down, they dedicated a lot of time as it was such an important matter. Computers also helped organise and speed up things more and the number of volunteers who wanted to test it was much more. And they had a lot of funding. Then there have been continued tests and trials afterwards that have shown the effectiveness. But astrazenica doesn't use that new tech its different but yea it was still faster for a lot of those reasons. I think it's important to read up about the effects and the procedure and not do things willy nilly, reading the research but I think that the need for the vaccine is real. Healthy skepticism is fine though just a lot of these theories don't really hold water. There has been virtually no harmful effects shown to this date. The blood clots u get from any vaccine are less than what you expect in a population. Consider how many people died and got bad symptoms from covid itself and compare that to the vaccines.
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Post by ConcernedSovereign on Mar 26, 2021 15:17:50 GMT
KRISPY KREME GIVING FREE DOUGHNUTS?!
Just get the jab and get free junk food.
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Post by IW on Mar 28, 2021 12:56:12 GMT
I sometimes wonder why there is a need for all these opinion based information. The people that think the vaccine is safe and "good" are going to get it/ have gotten it, they have their own "research" to back it up, and the opposite is also true.
It doesn't matter if there are 1- 2 or 100- 200 links, videos, medical doctors, media footage leaders, the president etc.. none of this is going to change someone's thinking about what they are set to do for themselves.
I would really like to hear that someone here is undecided on this, just really unsure of getting it or not.. anyone?
For those who don't play sports or are not interested in that topic, possibly this is a way to be on Team A (pro jab) or Team B (no jab), which side gets the most penalties and which side wins the game?
The only thing that really matters is to please follow your own judgment, if you think it's an awesome thing go get vaccinated, if you don't then don't do it and don't allow it to be done.
Thanks.
Yes, it is nice to hear what people think, but (nevrmind).
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Post by ConcernedSovereign on Mar 28, 2021 21:58:45 GMT
NHS NURSE QUITS AND REVEALS ALL!
Fear of loss of jobs is the reason why this fraud continues.
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Mar 29, 2021 18:09:05 GMT
I sometimes wonder why there is a need for all these opinion based information. The people that think the vaccine is safe and "good" are going to get it/ have gotten it, they have their own "research" to back it up, and the opposite is also true.
It doesn't matter if there are 1- 2 or 100- 200 links, videos, medical doctors, media footage leaders, the president etc.. none of this is going to change someone's thinking about what they are set to do for themselves.
I would really like to hear that someone here is undecided on this, just really unsure of getting it or not.. anyone?
For those who don't play sports or are not interested in that topic, possibly this is a way to be on Team A (pro jab) or Team B (no jab), which side gets the most penalties and which side wins the game?
The only thing that really matters is to please follow your own judgment, if you think it's an awesome thing go get vaccinated, if you don't then don't do it and don't allow it to be done.
Thanks.
Yes, it is nice to hear what people think, but (nevrmind).
Well, I have a very simple strategy. Whenever the invitation comes to be "jabbed" I will listen to my inner guidance. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind, after having done a lot of research, that vaccines in general are very very harmful and the basis of the pharmaceutical business model. Very easy to find out if you do your own research which very few people, even here, do. And if you do not agree; that is fine. I respect all views. Everyone sees the world the way they are. We are not even talking about vaccines but about experimental gene therapy which was stopped a few years ago when it all went horribly wrong with the CoV-SARS-1 animal trials. ALL animals died eventually and it will not surprise me that hundreds of millions will die. Not immediately but after a few months when the immune system turns against the person. And most likely it will be blamed on a Covid-20 strain or a Covid-19 c or d. But I can heal myself and can lock my own DNA. So in I have no fear of any adverse effects for myself.
I did get an early invite to vaccinate a week ago and got a very strong feeling I should not do it right now. So I am not doing it. Lots of people opt in because they fear to become outcasts. I will see what happens. I am protected and the worst outcome is ..... death = freedom. So there is nothing to fear. My wife will get vaccinated and she will probably force my only son with Down Syndrome to also be vaccinated. Well... so be it. I am not going to fight the system and I am not responsible for other people. I will not give it any energy and will respect anyone who does want to jab themselves. I am just being in this world but not of this world. Beautiful to be free! No masks for me and amazingly I never ever get issues with that. If asked why I am not wearing a mask (which is not very often) the Dutch privacy laws allow me to state that there are medical reasons why I cannot wear a mask. No-one is allowed to ask any further. In any public area I am then allowed to walk without mask. As has happened so many before in human history people are now voluntarily giving up their freedom out of fear. And it always works.
And IW; it may very well be that my inner guidance will tell to get a jab at a later date. And then I will do it. No questions asked. Spirit has got my back and I will do whatever my guides say I have to do. The brain is just an analytical tool and is not made for decision making. It is the Heart / inner guidance that should make the decisions.
But hey..... this is all just my opinion and if Griffo does not agree. Great! Everyone is welcome to have their own opinion and you are ALL right from your perspective.
Love and gratitude!
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Post by griffo on Mar 29, 2021 21:01:55 GMT
I sometimes wonder why there is a need for all these opinion based information. The people that think the vaccine is safe and "good" are going to get it/ have gotten it, they have their own "research" to back it up, and the opposite is also true.
It doesn't matter if there are 1- 2 or 100- 200 links, videos, medical doctors, media footage leaders, the president etc.. none of this is going to change someone's thinking about what they are set to do for themselves.
I would really like to hear that someone here is undecided on this, just really unsure of getting it or not.. anyone?
For those who don't play sports or are not interested in that topic, possibly this is a way to be on Team A (pro jab) or Team B (no jab), which side gets the most penalties and which side wins the game?
The only thing that really matters is to please follow your own judgment, if you think it's an awesome thing go get vaccinated, if you don't then don't do it and don't allow it to be done.
Thanks.
Yes, it is nice to hear what people think, but (nevrmind).
Well, I have a very simple strategy. Whenever the invitation comes to be "jabbed" I will listen to my inner guidance. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind, after having done a lot of research, that vaccines in general are very very harmful and the basis of the pharmaceutical business model. Very easy to find out if you do your own research which very few people, even here, do. And if you do not agree; that is fine. I respect all views. Everyone sees the world the way they are. We are not even talking about vaccines but about experimental gene therapy which was stopped a few years ago when it all went horribly wrong with the CoV-SARS-1 animal trials. ALL animals died eventually and it will not surprise me that hundreds of millions will die. Not immediately but after a few months when the immune system turns against the person. And most likely it will be blamed on a Covid-20 strain or a Covid-19 c or d. But I can heal myself and can lock my own DNA. So in I have no fear of any adverse effects for myself.
I did get an early invite to vaccinate a week ago and got a very strong feeling I should not do it right now. So I am not doing it. Lots of people opt in because they fear to become outcasts. I will see what happens. I am protected and the worst outcome is ..... death = freedom. So there is nothing to fear. My wife will get vaccinated and she will probably force my only son with Down Syndrome to also be vaccinated. Well... so be it. I am not going to fight the system and I am not responsible for other people. I will not give it any energy and will respect anyone who does want to jab themselves. I am just being in this world but not of this world. Beautiful to be free! No masks for me and amazingly I never ever get issues with that. If asked why I am not wearing a mask (which is not very often) the Dutch privacy laws allow me to state that there are medical reasons why I cannot wear a mask. No-one is allowed to ask any further. In any public area I am then allowed to walk without mask. As has happened so many before in human history people are now voluntarily giving up their freedom out of fear. And it always works.
And IW; it may very well be that my inner guidance will tell to get a jab at a later date. And then I will do it. No questions asked. Spirit has got my back and I will do whatever my guides say I have to do. The brain is just an analytical tool and is not made for decision making. It is the Heart / inner guidance that should make the decisions.
But hey..... this is all just my opinion and if Griffo does not agree. Great! Everyone is welcome to have their own opinion and you are ALL right from your perspective.
Love and gratitude!
I mainly posted very much to the people who post constantly rave here about supposed cover ups and just generally posting constantly about it. To balance what I feel is a very bad energy. Especially the sources used, if you do not trust mainstream sources then I wouldn't trust these sources either. If the vaccines are bad and u made up ur mind already it feels strange. I did think this forum was for discussing better things than that. I very much rather discuss more interesting things. What's the need to constantly post about it (not directed at you btw). I know people don't generally change their minds easily if they are strongly made up about it. The links on the ingredients of the vaccine i posted because there are ppl who are anti vax who asked me before whats in it and I thought it might be interested still. Wearing a mask I try to avoid as much as I can but only because I genuinely do have medical issues with masks. I think they do have importance in reducing spread. Even though they have their flaws because most people dont use them properly anyway. People in asian countries long wore these masks out of fashion, or just pollution protection voluntarily, to hide identity, or when they didn't want to talk to someone etc and were comfortable with them but I can understand they cause discomfort but for the people who can wear them comfortably enough it's still a good thing I think. It would be better if it was mostly a voluntary thing but yea. If you are though able to heal the side effects of a covid vaccine then why not get the vaccine to protect from the effects of virus while healing from the rest. Im thinking it's possible to completely neutralise those effects if you are that advanced. Ofc if you really have a strong immune system that helps but it takes quite a while for the body to recognise what the virus is like (the spike protein) and that is what the vaccine does help with. What about the others who don't have such a good immune system too, I think for a lot of people actually catching covid is not an option they want to risk. I would question how a vaccine any worse then getting covid19 itself when you read the side effects of what covid will do to you. My intuition does sense there is something to the vaccine however overall the positives outweigh the negatives. I do minimise unecessary vaccines for this reason but it makes kinda sense and to help protect others at least. After hearing what side effects some people I know have from covid I rather have vaccine and have less especially if "normality" is to resume. I think a lot of people question the pharmaceutical model and the buisness model but I sense the vaccines themselves are very much okay at least mostly, there are still dodgy vaccines out there. And if it is possible to heal from any harmful effects of the vaccines then thats better. If vaccines do work once there is a critical mass then things will get better. Its like when consciousness reaches critical mass. The only thing is covid will for sure keep mutating but at least it can be kept down. The longer we stay in lockdowns and similar the more economic effects and health impacts on others. That's why something is needed to help us get out back to normality. (Edited) Also to WB: What are the nature of these guides that u follow, are they external entities? Then why not skip directly to the deepest guidance within? I do think it is important to follow inner source ofc. It does require sometimes that you have external information to help you test out. Also I don't mean to sound cynical or anything ;P I did wonder as there are many tales of guides who turn out to be deceptive and that. But this is a bit of question in my mind.
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Post by kellsbells on Mar 30, 2021 21:27:27 GMT
I have personally recovered from Covid - it was a rough cold, but not much different that others I have had in the past. It was just a cold, but a bad one for me. I got over it fine though. Some background information for context: I was constantly sick as a child and as a young adult. I literally got sick and tired of being sick and tired. So I researched and read and read on how to boost the immune system. Something my doctors never ever mentioned or believed possible. In fact they wanted me on inhalers, steroids and antibiotics for the rest of my life! It took a long time and a commitment to stop all antibiotics. I rebuilt my immune system via whole foods, supplements of nutraceuticals, rest and good self care. It worked and I rarely get sick anymore 30 years later. If I do, it's a few sniffles and such for a few days. So I know from experience and intensive research, how to strengthen and rebuild the immune system and literally everything that is done with these lock downs, masks and social distancing is contrary to building an immune system and in fact does the opposite and weakens the immune system By getting a virus and getting over that illness, it is a huge victory for your immune system and makes it stronger. From my research, I am firmly against vaccination - I only became this way after my youngest was vaccine injured. I then realized that my other two children were also vaccine injured. Over 60 independent papers comparing vaccinated to un-vaccinated are finally being released and the data is staggering but not surprising. You can find this information on Robert Kennedy Jr's website childrenshealthdefense.org One stat revealed that un-vaccinated children are somewhere around 2,500% healthier than their vaccinated peers! All autoimmune diseases are created by vaccinations in my opinion. North Americans are the sickest on the planet with the highest vaccination rates. To me it is common sense - autoimmune diseases have skyrocketed the past couple of decades. SKYROCKETED!!! no exaggeration there. The connection is quite simple - they give you an injection to boost your immune system against a mild illness (at best) but now your immune system is completely compromised and and unable to mount a fight against cancers, diabetes, lupus, demylienating illnesses - chronic fatigue, etc. etc. set in. The list is long and extensive. My gut instinct just screams at me now about this vaccine - the deaths will mount quite quickly I fear. I invite you to watch the following video from Del Bigtree where he goes over the information of a warning from a prominent scientist about this vaccination problem. www.bitchute.com/video/Bfy9XHIypR8H/ here is the full interview from one scientist to the other that Del was critiquing above www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJZxiNxYLpc&t=2128sThe bottom line for me, I wouldn't wish this vaccine upon my worst enemy and I wouldn't inject a jack fruit with it, let alone a loved one.
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Post by IW on Mar 31, 2021 5:41:25 GMT
If everywhere you look you see billboards, radio, television, internet, even highway amber signs telling you to get vaccinated, its 1000% chance that the best thing is, is to not do it. Of course no one wants to be an outsider!
Completely 100% agree with kellsbells. Thanks for your opinion too griff. Conversation and personal experience tops the constant barrage of videos that show up. BUT that is only my opinion!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 11:51:54 GMT
Like WB I too read several pieces that explain this vaccine as gene therapy. That bothered me but I respect everyone’s decision as to do or not to do. Manager at work has been bugging me to make sure Karin is vaccinated as she is immune compromised. 2 days later same manager told me to tell Karin when she gets the second shot to call out sick for a few days. This manager got very sick after the second shot and it took her several days to feel better. I was uncomfortable being near said manager after she told me that.
PS. It is simple to understand why so many Americans had difficulty with the virus. Beat me up if you want but it is called obesity. At age 66 I am always talking about loosing the 20 pounds that keep me from being skinny lol. There is a guy at work who has a hard time walking because of weight issues. He comes in early, sits down with a whole box of donuts and washes them down with chocolate milk and a Sprite. Then he moans about being diabetic. One cannot live a healthy life with such self abuse.
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Post by griffo on Mar 31, 2021 14:54:42 GMT
Except when u think about it getting the vaccine at the very least cannot be much worse then getting the virus itself. The two do exactly the same thing in the sense of stimulate the immune system. The overall principle of a vaccine is to put a very tiny bit weakened/weaker form of virus or a substitute in. It's a test case for your body. Putting anything into your body is a risk but we all do take risks. It is yours to take or not to take perhaps, you can also make the choice of instead going out and purposefully catching covid, and then staying at home to not be a super spreader, for most people with strong immune systems indeed it's not a personal worry. The problem with covid is you don't know if you have it or not instantly, so spreading it to others who are more vulnerable becomes a problem. Covid is very infectious. The other is to always stay at home and don't get the virus at all somehow because some people are that super weak that anything given to them or exposed to them is not good. Not everyone responds to things in the same way, some people genuinely do end up in hospitalisation not everyones immune system is efficient enough is responding to virus quick enough. I know people who have died from covid who were not that old, they may have had pre-existing issues but having the vaccine would have easily saved them. The symptoms for the vaccine are overall very mild. The side effects well are far worse from the virus itself then the vaccine proportionally speaking still. Auto immune diseases often are people not being exposed to things in daily life when they are younger. They do not go outside enough, not exposed to certain foods, bacteria and that. It's however true that a lot of covid measures are creating anxiety within people and the messages given off which will lower immune systems for sure therefore not good, but this would be a seperate issue, as well as the importance for healthy lifestyle. Edit (just to keep it all as one post): To add I dont think it should be mandatory that's what makes people upset, pushing people that way is not fair since people need to think critically and make that choice for themselves rather than the government do it. Speaking honestly about things would help. But things like vaccine cause autism is downright untrue because correlation is not causation among other claims. www.newsweek.com/vaccination-anti-vax-myths-debunked-truth-1342856 There are always risks. It's not all black and white. But I still think imo this case (for covid at least) it's a useful part of the strategy against covid. There have been bad vaccines around for sure and misuses it's still important to question everything, I'm also not one for recommending vaccine for everything without question, because yea vaccines do come with some cost. I think personally trust astrazenica more than pfizer tho even with the whole EU thing. Yeah as much as videos can illustrate an interesting point (so I do like a few on occasion and post a bit) the ones here and in other parts seem like too much somehow does feel constant.
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Post by mironlang on Mar 31, 2021 16:55:11 GMT
I have personally recovered from Covid - it was a rough cold, but not much different that others I have had in the past. It was just a cold, but a bad one for me. I got over it fine though. Some background information for context: I was constantly sick as a child and as a young adult. I literally got sick and tired of being sick and tired. So I researched and read and read on how to boost the immune system. Something my doctors never ever mentioned or believed possible. In fact they wanted me on inhalers, steroids and antibiotics for the rest of my life! It took a long time and a commitment to stop all antibiotics. I rebuilt my immune system via whole foods, supplements of nutraceuticals, rest and good self care. It worked and I rarely get sick anymore 30 years later. If I do, it's a few sniffles and such for a few days. So I know from experience and intensive research, how to strengthen and rebuild the immune system and literally everything that is done with these lock downs, masks and social distancing is contrary to building an immune system and in fact does the opposite and weakens the immune system By getting a virus and getting over that illness, it is a huge victory for your immune system and makes it stronger. From my research, I am firmly against vaccination - I only became this way after my youngest was vaccine injured. I then realized that my other two children were also vaccine injured. Over 60 independent papers comparing vaccinated to un-vaccinated are finally being released and the data is staggering but not surprising. You can find this information on Robert Kennedy Jr's website childrenshealthdefense.org One stat revealed that un-vaccinated children are somewhere around 2,500% healthier than their vaccinated peers! All autoimmune diseases are created by vaccinations in my opinion. North Americans are the sickest on the planet with the highest vaccination rates. To me it is common sense - autoimmune diseases have skyrocketed the past couple of decades. SKYROCKETED!!! no exaggeration there. The connection is quite simple - they give you an injection to boost your immune system against a mild illness (at best) but now your immune system is completely compromised and and unable to mount a fight against cancers, diabetes, lupus, demylienating illnesses - chronic fatigue, etc. etc. set in. The list is long and extensive. My gut instinct just screams at me now about this vaccine - the deaths will mount quite quickly I fear. I invite you to watch the following video from Del Bigtree where he goes over the information of a warning from a prominent scientist about this vaccination problem. www.bitchute.com/video/Bfy9XHIypR8H/ here is the full interview from one scientist to the other that Del was critiquing above www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJZxiNxYLpc&t=2128sThe bottom line for me, I wouldn't wish this vaccine upon my worst enemy and I wouldn't inject a jack fruit with it, let alone a loved one. Thanks for sharing Kells ))) I'll forward this to my friends. Thanks.
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Mar 31, 2021 17:06:22 GMT
The reason I was guided to work with water vitalisation technology is because all life depends on water and water is the very basis of your immune system. The average Joe or Joan knows absolutely nothing about water because the system tells them it is just H2O. A chemical inert substance. As always in my experience, whatever the system is teaching, assume the opposite and you will be very close to the truth. Water is the essence of ALL life on Earth and water is a living organism. It lives and because of water we are alive. 99% of a human being consists of water molecules! It only makes up 70% of your body weight but you ARE 99% water molecules. You ARE water. Water differentiates itself from any other fluid on Earth in almost 70 ways. Water even has a 4th phase! It exists not only in solid, liquid and gaseous form but also as a gel. This gel resembles the structure of ice and happens to make up more than 70% of the water in your cells. It is. not even H2O in that phase but H3O2. The water we drink from our taps is BAD for your health. The water we drink from bottles is BAD for your health. Only true spring water, ie water that has been judged ready by Mother Earth is healthy for you. The beauty of so-called vitalised or structured water is that it comes very close to natural spring water and it resembles the structured water, the gel phase, in your cells. Therefor it strengthens your immune system. Bechamp clearly proved with his experiments that viruses and bacteria are generated internally as a result of recovery due to illness. They do NOT cause illness but are the RESULT of illness. Pasteur, the one who introduced the Germ Theory to this world, was the great adversary of Bechamp, who introduced the Terrain theory. Pasteur admitted on his death bed that his work that ‘proved’ the Germ Therory and still is taken for granted by the medical profession was completely fraudulent. He falsified his results. His son later had admitted this to the world. Pasteur admitted that Bechamp was right with his Terrain theory. There are NO germs out there that can hurt you. Do your own research. Read “Bechamp vs Pasteur” or “Good bye Germ Theory” or “The Contagion Myth”. The latter was written by Dr Cowan and was removed from Amazon within minutes. The Terrain theory says your body can only fall ill due to poisoning of the body or the environment you live in (the air you breath, the water you drink, the food you eat or the electromagnetic waves that batter you constantly in this modern world.) There is a (legal) reason why mobile manufacturers, deep deep inside the legal jargon in your phone include a recommendation not to put the phone directly against your ear. This is because the know it is harmful and have to guard against liability. Bechamp proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that bacteria are the house cleaners. They develop within the body and depending on the terrain they are either “good” or “bad”. Bacteria have been proven to alter their state from good to bad or vice versa. They can transform themselves. They are not the enemy. Look at Mother Nature. No where in nature you will see vaccines and pills. It is totally and utterly unnatural and harmful. All you need to do is make sure your immune system is strong. And the very basis of that is vitalised or structured water. Sorry for the rant but my wife has just been jabbed and I find it is still not easy for me to see this happening. In the world of madmen the sane are seen as lunatics.......
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Post by mironlang on Apr 1, 2021 6:58:26 GMT
I just hope the Hydrogen water device that i bought helps. even by a bit I have always felt this. Thanks Hans!
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Post by kellsbells on Apr 1, 2021 18:45:08 GMT
I wanted to post a comment from one of the social media sites I follow and wanted to show a comment from a front line health care worker here in Canada. I have seen several of these and there is now a coalition of "concerned healthcare professionals" that are openly saying the government is lying about the numbers in the hospitals. Again, from my own personal experience this year, I took my daughter to an emergency room for a "lady problem" and the hospital was basically empty. To further do my own due diligence I then later went to another one of our hospitals, one that I know for fact is always packed. Same thing - it was a dead zone. A couple of nurses have gotten fired because they screen shot the stats on how all the beds were basically empty. Anyway... here is one quote: " Ya I work in healthcare frontline and this shit ain’t happening. No different than any other year. Hospitals ER and ICU are the same. Only thing that I’ve noticed that’s different is that the physicians never test for influenza a/b, everything is covid, the physicians couldn’t tell you what or how a pcr test is run, and that they virtue signal non stop spreading their own fear and propaganda to the simps. Increased viral infections after getting the second dose with the normies I see on a regular basis and are far worse than I’ve seen them in the past, if not end up dying. This shit is getting out of hand and I don’t know how much longer I can handle this nonsense 🤦♂️"
So lots of the physicians are quite a part of the problem as well - there is certainly a divide - for a fact the hospitals in my province of Alberta are not overwhelmed. In fact they built this big facility in Edmonton to hold all the sick and dying...Not one patient in there. There are huge class action lawsuits being undertaken, so there is a huge movement here with many of the medical professionals fighting back and exposing the truths. Over 70% of the long term health care workers here have "declined" the vaccine! So that is telling. There are so many links and articles from around the world that show the opposition from doctors, scientists, nurses and health care professionals of every stripe that are not being listened to and they are the ones getting censored. We have only just begun with the lawsuits, many successes so far in fighting fines and forced lock downs. I have hope that the people will rise up to this challenge. It is just so heartbreaking that so many people just can't seem to see through this. The cognitive dissonance is alarming to me. I could post link after link with these articles that substantiate that this is all part of an agenda. These are not conspiracy theories either - these are facts at this point. It's the old "bait and switch" tactic that has been used time and again across the centuries. Sadly, too many people fall for it. I don't think it's all brain washing. I believe that many people are just naive and gullible; they can't wrap their heads around the idea that there could possibly that much evil in the world and to try to believe it is too much. Spouting off "conspiracy theories" just makes it so they can feel comfortable and smug about their own level of understanding. If you want the links let me know, but as noted before, when someone is very attached to their level of knowledge and understanding, it is very hard to convince them, no matter how much evidence is presented. They won't even look at it! That's also very alarming to me. I just want to know the truth. That's why I research and read so much. It's so alarming when you realize just how corrupt everything is. So I get why people don't want to know or hear the truth. It's bloody scary... so cognitive dissonance it is then!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2021 16:34:51 GMT
Although I do not agree at all with Griffy's views about vaccines, masks, lockdowns, etc, I certainly do respect her views. Since the start of corona in March last year, I have never ever seen people dying in the streets or getting severely ill in my own environment, at work, in my family, etc. Other people tell me the same. This doesn't mean that I don't think there is some kind of virus, but when looking at statistics, there is nothing wrong when you compare it to flu statistics over the past few years. Yes, people die of "covid", people used to die of the flu as well over the past few years and I remember that the flu I had before the start of this covid thing in March last year was very infectuous as well. Moreover, isn't it kind of strange that the flu is completely gone now? The WHO btw announced not so long ago that they came to the conclusion that the PCR-test had too many false positives, so they lowered the cycles. Although I'm not against vaccines in general, I certainly will not take this one (like Hans and Myka mentioned). First of all already because of how they are now focusing on vaccine passports, creating a society in which those that don't want the vaccine will not have the same rights as the others. This is already a given fact in some countries, and they are keen on implementing it here in Belgium as well. But in general, like some have mentioned here, I do personally believe that there is a whole agenda behind this vaccine. An agenda that I don't actually welcome. But then again, like Hans mentioned, this whole vaccine bs makes people forget that they have an immune system. I'm not yet sure about the germ theory, but what surely resonates with me is that our own immune system is perfectly capable to fight off any viruses, bacteria, or other disease. Have you ever heard those "experts" mention the usage of Vitamine C, D, Zync or other things that are necessary for our health? No, instead they push a vaccine, of which we know VERY little. I know from experience that Vit C, D and Zync are very good for me and a lot of people confirm this. Moreover, we are talking about a vaccine that has been developed in just a few months time, where normally this takes years ... To top it all off, the pharma companies that developed the vaccine made sure that they cannot be held liable for any counter effects ... Well, why would they feel the need to include this kind of protection if they are so sure that this vaccine is great for humanity? And finally, there is no single scientific proof that masks and social distancing work to stop to reduce the virus spread. Here is a link with several sources aapsonline.org/mask-facts/. Many of the "experts" (Fauci, but also the one we have in Belgium) said back in March 2020 (although they withdrew their words afterwards) that wearing masks made no sense at all. Moreover, experts during the 1918 Spanish flu concluded after a period of having worn the same cloth masks, that they failed to work elemental.medium.com/why-gauze-masks-failed-in-1918-and-what-we-can-do-better-e735406f0e36#:~:text=Most%20of%20us%20have%20seen,citywide%20scale%20in%20San%20Francisco.. What makes sense to me is that wearing a mask is the most unhealthy thing you can do to yourself. You inhale all the toxic substances you just exhaled. Personally, this mask is to me a muzzle, but that's just my own opinion. What is very noticeable in today's society (at least here in Belgium) is that the large majority that is pro-vaccine, masks, lockdown, etc are blaming those who do not choose to wear masks, take the vaccine, etc for the fact that cases are rising again. Compare this situation with what happened until 2019. When we had a cold, we still went working and just made sure to not come too close to colleagues or relatives. But we never blamed one another for being infected as well. Now people already blame their fellow human being for not wearing a mask, for coming too close, for not "showing solidarity", for daring to think for ourselves and not listening to the authorities. Until the end of 2019, we were able to choose taking the flu vax or not. Nobody was blamed. Nobody was being prohibited travelling, working, etc when they didn't get vaccinated. I am fine with people wearing masks even in open nature, I am fine with people taking the vaccine. But these same people should stop playing victim and blaming others for their own beliefs based on fear and rigid thinking.
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Post by mironlang on Apr 2, 2021 18:11:07 GMT
I will not take any vaccine for covid-19. (It was a relief that the company i worked for does not require it)
I would rather get the covid-19 (virus or bacterium) than any vaccine for covid-19.
-My take
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