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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 2:17:22 GMT
I don't trust either of them. This is not a continuation of the Wes forums he gave the big middle finger to. This is a new group. Lets fly!! We together can find the reason for being here. I am not a groupie!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 6:12:15 GMT
This is not a continuation of the Wes forums he gave the big middle finger to. I am not a groupie Haahahah This cracked me up like crazy!!!! Yep we're sovereign... we can find our own information...we can't depend on anyone
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Post by Henrik on Aug 1, 2018 8:35:54 GMT
Lol, I don't feel very attached, probably watched just 1 very short vid of theirs, though I intend to look at some more at a later point at of curiosity.
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Post by Ariel Glad on Aug 1, 2018 16:32:26 GMT
krissieeI deleted my account here because I no longer want to be a member of this forum. A few members here (particularly "myka") seem to feel compelled to devalue Wes, me, and/or our articles. Covert insults and devaluations feel like they are coming from emotional reactions people may still hold after the debacle from his previous forum. These intentions directed toward us are hurtful. @ninurta "We're like 50 members here, each investing their own input...we're super rich!" Yes, you are right about that. Everyone holds a piece of truth and NO ONE has the entire picture. We are just trying to figure things out like the rest of you, based on research and personal experiences. " There's nothing new that they post that we don't already have here... it just has a different configuration but its the same as we're talking about here." Yes, and it's been a confirmation for us to see that other people have come to the same conclusions we have, independently of each other. I would have enjoyed talking about some of these things with those of you who would be willing because I still have so many unanswered questions. Instead, it seems to be a dismissal from you, of sorts, to tell me to take my information elsewhere. It's uncomfortable for me to be here. I wish you all well, wherever you go.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 19:18:58 GMT
krissiee I deleted my account here because I no longer want to be a member of this forum. A few members here (particularly "myka") seem to feel compelled to devalue Wes, me, and/or our articles. Covert insults and devaluations feel like they are coming from emotional reactions people may still hold after the debacle from his previous forum. These intentions directed toward us are hurtful. @ninurta "We're like 50 members here, each investing their own input...we're super rich!" Yes, you are right about that. Everyone holds a piece of truth and NO ONE has the entire picture. We are just trying to figure things out like the rest of you, based on research and personal experiences. " There's nothing new that they post that we don't already have here... it just has a different configuration but its the same as we're talking about here." Yes, and it's been a confirmation for us to see that other people have come to the same conclusions we have, independently of each other. I would have enjoyed talking about some of these things with those of you who would be willing because I still have so many unanswered questions. Instead, it seems to be a dismissal from you, of sorts, to tell me to take my information elsewhere. It's uncomfortable for me to be here. I wish you all well, wherever you go. Awww! "i see you" now, like in the avatar movie....I also think it would not be mature at all to consider you guys as rivals or something, because so long as we're on this earth plane we're all suffering from the same disease of ignorance and constantly trying to know a little more...we all suffer either way whether we like to admit it or not...it's only our attitude that gets us through... Personally i didn't think it had gone that far because it sounds like you guys are hurt...Whatever happened with the old forum is still a mystery to everyone, no one knows really why it went down..but it'd be spiritually immature to consider Wes totally responsible because he's not perfect either...we want to see him as only behaving like a know-it-all sage which is not good for either us or him... It's tough maintaining an image, its actually not good to maintain an image, because then you're fake...how can you be sane all the time? Part of "unconditional" is that imperfections are welcome too...That's what makes God "all encompassing"...How can he say he's the ultimate if even the bad are not part of him? who would have created them then?....I believe if Ariel and Wes want to join this forum, they can gladly come...and they're both welcome...Whatever is holding you back is personal and you have to transcend it... We'd actually be glad to build another big family here...Why post videos with streaming words on youtube anyway? People will be drown to information if they're ready for it regardless if its under a rock...anyway that's your decision and its perfect, was just wondering why upon returning you guys didn't open up another forum or something..... You guys are more than welcome here and am sure you'd have a lot more to share here with a lot more ease than on youtube...But either way, whatever you do, we're all happy for you guys!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 19:19:55 GMT
krissiee I deleted my account here because I no longer want to be a member of this forum. A few members here (particularly "myka") seem to feel compelled to devalue Wes, me, and/or our articles. Covert insults and devaluations feel like they are coming from emotional reactions people may still hold after the debacle from his previous forum. These intentions directed toward us are hurtful. @ninurta "We're like 50 members here, each investing their own input...we're super rich!" Yes, you are right about that. Everyone holds a piece of truth and NO ONE has the entire picture. We are just trying to figure things out like the rest of you, based on research and personal experiences. " There's nothing new that they post that we don't already have here... it just has a different configuration but its the same as we're talking about here." Yes, and it's been a confirmation for us to see that other people have come to the same conclusions we have, independently of each other. I would have enjoyed talking about some of these things with those of you who would be willing because I still have so many unanswered questions. Instead, it seems to be a dismissal from you, of sorts, to tell me to take my information elsewhere. It's uncomfortable for me to be here. I wish you all well, wherever you go. I wish you both well. Really. But as I stated before this is a new forum. The now deceased founder was removed by Wes from his forum for reasons none of us really know. Folks here are free to discuss whatever and study whoever. It is their choice.
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Post by IW on Aug 2, 2018 4:22:08 GMT
Hi Ariel
It is unfortunate that this forum came alive with the occurrence of some ugly things happening in the old forum. I would say that with the exception of a period of no moderator (where was Wes? was the popular question and then thread that started up there) nothing else that happened there was a reflection onto Wes. This occurrence at THAT forum then led to some weird negative feelings for some here, not a personal reflection now to you or Wes. We all still wonder what happened with that -- Anyhow, old stuff..
We are fairly independent folks, with our own opinions and interests. I have watched all of the videos that you and Wes have made so far (up to 51) and posted a few of my favorites here so far. Yes I got triggered once or twice, it happens. It's to be expected that no one has the same information/sources or conclusions.
Maybe you came to this forum as you said as only a thank you to Miron for his support of Wes and never had any intentions of being a part of the forum ( I haven't seen an attempt to join in?).
That's fine, if that's your choice, no one here is "pushing" you out though.
I think it'd be great to see some of your postings here, either way, feel free!
wome
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Post by ML on Aug 2, 2018 5:14:46 GMT
Hi Ariel It is unfortunate that this forum came alive with the occurrence of some ugly things happening in the old forum. I would say that with the exception of a period of no moderator (where was Wes? was the popular question and then thread that started up there) nothing else that happened there was a reflection onto Wes. This occurrence at THAT forum then led to some weird negative feelings for some here, not a personal reflection now to you or Wes. We all still wonder what happened with that -- Anyhow, old stuff.. We are fairly independent folks, with our own opinions and interests. I have watched all of the videos that you and Wes have made so far (up to 51) and posted a few of my favorites here so far. Yes I got triggered once or twice, it happens. It's to be expected that no one has the same information/sources or conclusions. Maybe you came to this forum as you said as only a thank you to Miron for his support of Wes and never had any intentions of being a part of the forum ( I haven't seen an attempt to join in?). That's fine, if that's your choice, no one here is "pushing" you out though. I think it'd be great to see some of your postings here, either way, feel free! wome Hi Wome, Thanks so much for this post ... Ive been trying to post in this thread but i cant seem to find the words lol. so Thank you !! Much Love to Myka and Ariel... I firmly believe that we can all be of help to one another. Just because there's some friction doesnt mean that we can't be of assistance to each other down the line. Of course its not gonna be harmonious all the time. that is not possible in this world/reality/existence/plain where we will definitely experience good and evil..we will feel courageous and scared ...... black and white.... the rules of this world does not allow 100% harmonious existence. (((( LOVE to ALL ))))
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Post by ML on Aug 2, 2018 5:41:48 GMT
Hi Ariel It is unfortunate that this forum came alive with the occurrence of some ugly things happening in the old forum. I would say that with the exception of a period of no moderator (where was Wes? was the popular question and then thread that started up there) nothing else that happened there was a reflection onto Wes. This occurrence at THAT forum then led to some weird negative feelings for some here, not a personal reflection now to you or Wes. We all still wonder what happened with that -- Anyhow, old stuff.. We are fairly independent folks, with our own opinions and interests. I have watched all of the videos that you and Wes have made so far (up to 51) and posted a few of my favorites here so far. Yes I got triggered once or twice, it happens. It's to be expected that no one has the same information/sources or conclusions. Maybe you came to this forum as you said as only a thank you to Miron for his support of Wes and never had any intentions of being a part of the forum ( I haven't seen an attempt to join in?). That's fine, if that's your choice, no one here is "pushing" you out though. I think it'd be great to see some of your postings here, either way, feel free! wome on what 'happened' in the wpp forum : maybe its ok if we go back and clear what happened just a little. Truelight e-mailed me a version of her story. Wes i think also gave an 'update' on the matter but he did not name names. But it was clear that there was conflict between members. --- I think its best if i give the names at this point (but not the details of the conflict ). As usual synchronicity again as Truelight's email is already open in my outlook as i was scanning through it couple of hrs ago ... I think/feel that Truelight would not object. 1. The posters that got banned were Truelight, Prime, Blossom and Nightdreamer 2. The 3 other poster were in agreement and they are in a disagreement with truelight. Blossom and Truelight were messaging each other earlier..something went wrong between them i guess that was triggered by 'another' poster. 3. The conflict was triggered by this 'another' poster in the old PRIVATE AREA where this other poster (unexpectedly) got access. 4. It escalated from that point. shocking posts were made. 5. Wes banned truelight, Prime, Blossom and nightdreamer plus the 'another' poster 6. Since i really feel that i cant afford to lose Truelight who was a huge SOURCE of WISDOM and SPIRITUAL UNDERSTANDING, plus the fact that Hans immediately expressed his intention of leaving the forum immediately I did renamed this forum to 'THEORIES OF LIFE' from its previous gaming forum name. and try to put life into it by inviting members usually from wpp forum...I also invited people from other forums but the theme of this forum fits well with the old wpp guys. 7 The WPP Forum and this Forum have co - existed for almost a month in my estimate. Wes close the wpp forum when he decided to not participate in social media anymore. most regulars here were already a member even before WPP forum went into Maintenance mode, but it surely become more active since. I hope that cleared some things a little Love you ALL!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 6:01:56 GMT
Hi Ariel It is unfortunate that this forum came alive with the occurrence of some ugly things happening in the old forum. I would say that with the exception of a period of no moderator (where was Wes? was the popular question and then thread that started up there) nothing else that happened there was a reflection onto Wes. This occurrence at THAT forum then led to some weird negative feelings for some here, not a personal reflection now to you or Wes. We all still wonder what happened with that -- Anyhow, old stuff.. We are fairly independent folks, with our own opinions and interests. I have watched all of the videos that you and Wes have made so far (up to 51) and posted a few of my favorites here so far. Yes I got triggered once or twice, it happens. It's to be expected that no one has the same information/sources or conclusions. Maybe you came to this forum as you said as only a thank you to Miron for his support of Wes and never had any intentions of being a part of the forum ( I haven't seen an attempt to join in?). That's fine, if that's your choice, no one here is "pushing" you out though. I think it'd be great to see some of your postings here, either way, feel free! wome on what 'happened' in the wpp forum : maybe its ok if we go back and clear what happened just a little. Truelight e-mailed me a version of her story. Wes i think also gave an 'update' on the matter but he did not name names. But it was clear that there was conflict between members. --- I think its best if i give the names at this point (but not the details of the conflict ). As usual synchronicity again as Truelight's email is already open in my outlook as i was scanning through it couple of hrs ago ... I think/feel that Truelight would not object. 1. The posters that got banned were Truelight, Prime, Blossom and Nightdreamer 2. The 3 other poster were in agreement and they are in a disagreement with truelight. Blossom and Truelight were messaging each other earlier..something went wrong between them i guess that was triggered by 'another' poster. 3. The conflict was triggered by this 'another' poster in the old PRIVATE AREA where this other poster (unexpectedly) got access. 4. It escalated from that point. shocking posts were made. 5. Wes banned truelight, Prime, Blossom and nightdreamer plus the 'another' poster 6. Since i really feel that i cant afford to lose Truelight who was a huge SOURCE of WISDOM and SPIRITUAL UNDERSTANDING, plus the fact that Hans immediately expressed his intention of leaving the forum immediately I did renamed this forum to 'THEORIES OF LIFE' from its previous gaming forum name. and try to put life into it by inviting members usually from wpp forum...I also invited people from other forums but the theme of this forum fits well with the old wpp guys. 7 The WPP Forum and this Forum have co - existed for almost a month in my estimate. Wes close the wpp forum when he decided to not participate in social media anymore. most regulars here were already a member even before WPP forum went into Maintenance mode, but it surely become more active since. I hope that cleared some things a little Love you ALL! Yes yes, but what was the conflict? some of us want to know haha
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Aug 2, 2018 6:50:49 GMT
I think the title of this thread is a wise title. To me one of the reasons why the WPP forum went in a downward spiral is that some members went into 'selling' mode. Protecting their views and insights as the only way and trying to convince others of that only way. It ended up in a battle of words.
We should maybe be mindful of the above thread title and indeed just let go.
I have always been open about my (continued) deep respect for Wes and even consider him a friend although we never met in the flesh.
I left the forum because I did not agree with the way Truelight was ousted and had, as did Truelight, the feeling that the forum was out of control and unbalanced. No hard feelings towards Wes or anyone else, I simply followed my own feelings. Ariel I do not know. Neither Wes nor Ariel will I judge as I try not to judge anyone.
When Miron made this forum available the energy that it provided to me was so incredibly balanced and all members acted so respectful towards ANY other person and ANY other viewpoint. And that has continued to be the case until maybe yesterday...
For some reason Wes and Ariel have stirred and are stirring some emotions and feelings within some of us. Some may still feel strongly by having lost the thousands of hours of our insights on the wpp forum. I know Truelight was very upset about that. Before I left the wpp forum I did put in a request for a download of all my posts but never received it. So some of us felt wronged about that and did not feel that Wes has the right to deprive us and others from the wealth of insights that the forum contained. I do not understand why and how things evolved but I do recognise that it does not serve me to continue to give it energy.
We all have a choice. You can accept what happened and emotionally let go of it and move on, or you continue to let if influence you. It is a personal choice we all have to make. Most of us I think are aware that one can only live in one moment and one can argue that being involved with (and giving your energy to) the wpp forum is NOT being in the moment.
This forum and its energy stands and falls with our energy, our intentions.
I for one would suggest that we keep it the way it started.
I am extremely grateful for what it has brought me and am really looking forward to what it will bring me. The 'Greek Lady" alone is worth sooo much to me (thank you again Elisabeth!!) and the amount of new information / insights allows me to increase awareness and frequency.
So I welcome any member or guest that is looking for information on their path to Epi Gnosis AND that is respectful of all other opinions.
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Post by IW on Aug 2, 2018 9:48:03 GMT
I am really glad for this thread also, thank you myka! One of the more valuable qualities of you and others is the plain and simple openness to express WITHOUT the intention to hurt. I have felt that from the beginning here and it is/was the complete opposite of the other forum. So now we can all see what a "mini" episode of drama is like here which seemed to be happening a mile a minute at the old forum. There was a total lack of decency there and I felt that to be at least one of the reasons it was closed down. Does it mean no one will ever be hurt here? No, but I would hope one can see what I think is obvious. The intent that Ariel feels most likely for the hurt came from whatever is within her. We all carry the same kind of baggage around. It was heavy at the other forum. If one is hurt, say something. See how things go, prove it one way or the other about intent. This makes things clear and evident without the quick dismissal. It's always a challenge to not be reactive as Wes and Ariel says in their videos. It means being willing to grow and be proven wrong and to have patience. Thanks White Buffalo and Miron for your words on Truelight, I just wasn't going to go there, but I'm glad you did. This is our forum, and I think it's a good one too!
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Post by Blossom on Aug 2, 2018 18:09:40 GMT
Hi Ariel It is unfortunate that this forum came alive with the occurrence of some ugly things happening in the old forum. I would say that with the exception of a period of no moderator (where was Wes? was the popular question and then thread that started up there) nothing else that happened there was a reflection onto Wes. This occurrence at THAT forum then led to some weird negative feelings for some here, not a personal reflection now to you or Wes. We all still wonder what happened with that -- Anyhow, old stuff.. We are fairly independent folks, with our own opinions and interests. I have watched all of the videos that you and Wes have made so far (up to 51) and posted a few of my favorites here so far. Yes I got triggered once or twice, it happens. It's to be expected that no one has the same information/sources or conclusions. Maybe you came to this forum as you said as only a thank you to Miron for his support of Wes and never had any intentions of being a part of the forum ( I haven't seen an attempt to join in?). That's fine, if that's your choice, no one here is "pushing" you out though. I think it'd be great to see some of your postings here, either way, feel free! wome on what 'happened' in the wpp forum : maybe its ok if we go back and clear what happened just a little. Truelight e-mailed me a version of her story. Wes i think also gave an 'update' on the matter but he did not name names. But it was clear that there was conflict between members. --- I think its best if i give the names at this point (but not the details of the conflict ). As usual synchronicity again as Truelight's email is already open in my outlook as i was scanning through it couple of hrs ago ... I think/feel that Truelight would not object. 1. The posters that got banned were Truelight, Prime, Blossom and Nightdreamer 2. The 3 other poster were in agreement and they are in a disagreement with truelight. Blossom and Truelight were messaging each other earlier..something went wrong between them i guess that was triggered by 'another' poster. 3. The conflict was triggered by this 'another' poster in the old PRIVATE AREA where this other poster (unexpectedly) got access. 4. It escalated from that point. shocking posts were made. 5. Wes banned truelight, Prime, Blossom and nightdreamer plus the 'another' poster 6. Since i really feel that i cant afford to lose Truelight who was a huge SOURCE of WISDOM and SPIRITUAL UNDERSTANDING, plus the fact that Hans immediately expressed his intention of leaving the forum immediately I did renamed this forum to 'THEORIES OF LIFE' from its previous gaming forum name. and try to put life into it by inviting members usually from wpp forum...I also invited people from other forums but the theme of this forum fits well with the old wpp guys. 7 The WPP Forum and this Forum have co - existed for almost a month in my estimate. Wes close the wpp forum when he decided to not participate in social media anymore. most regulars here were already a member even before WPP forum went into Maintenance mode, but it surely become more active since. I hope that cleared some things a little Love you ALL! Hi MironLang and all others! I thumbled on this forum by coincidence and saw this post which surprised me. I appreciate that Truelight (and I am sincerely sorry that she deceased!) briefed you on what happened on the old forum, but as the expression in Dutch goes ... always try to hear two bells ring. Do not just accept one's truth as THE truth. I have - except for a few PM's with regard to the construction of a new private group that I discussed with TL and Wes - never messaged to TL. I don't know where she got this from. I haven't even participated to any group PM's anymore since let's say June last year. I will not go in any further details here, but I wanted to put this right. I wish you all the very best with your new forum!
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Post by ML on Aug 3, 2018 1:19:59 GMT
Hi MironLang and all others! I thumbled on this forum by coincidence and saw this post which surprised me. I appreciate that Truelight (and I am sincerely sorry that she deceased!) briefed you on what happened on the old forum, but as the expression in Dutch goes ... always try to hear two bells ring. Do not just accept one's truth as THE truth. I have - except for a few PM's with regard to the construction of a new private group that I discussed with TL and Wes - never messaged to TL. I don't know where she got this from. I haven't even participated to any group PM's anymore since let's say June last year. I will not go in any further details here, but I wanted to put this right. I wish you all the very best with your new forum! Thanks for reminding us that Blossom, it is appreciated. Warm intents towards you,
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Post by leeah on Jul 13, 2022 14:55:03 GMT
Phew. It's hard for me to come back here and read some of this stuff. I need to own up to the things I did and said, though, and I'm a lot stronger now than I was then. I need to make an apology to you all.
This is me - Nightowl/Ariel/"what's her name" lol
I apologize to anyone I may have influenced or caused fear/hurt feelings during a time in my life when I was caught up in my own pain and fear. I was in pretty bad shape, emotionally. Fortunately or unfortunately, however you want to look at it, I connected with and worked with Wes for a period of time.
I've been through a very hard and painful period of personal growth, but I've come out of it much stronger and I've learned so much about myself. I had to face a very difficult realization that most of the time my mind was escaping into the realm of imagination and fantasy creation to escape a difficult life. I was rejecting the things in my life that I was afraid of or that hurt me and my desire to reject this life put me in resonance with others who also desired this.
The reward for this difficult process has been coming back down to base reality and out of the realm of conspiracy and fantasy. I encountered a few really difficult wake-up calls on my trip back down to Earth, and in the process, I can now see all the stuff that was inside of me is stuff that I was projecting out to others.
I sincerely apologize and I wish all of you the very best. Thanks for reading.
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Post by jim on Jul 14, 2022 23:30:50 GMT
Phew. It's hard for me to come back here and read some of this stuff. I need to own up to the things I did and said, though, and I'm a lot stronger now than I was then. I need to make an apology to you all. This is me - Nightowl/Ariel/"what's her name" lol I apologize to anyone I may have influenced or caused fear/hurt feelings during a time in my life when I was caught up in my own pain and fear. I was in pretty bad shape, emotionally. Fortunately or unfortunately, however you want to look at it, I connected with and worked with Wes for a period of time. I've been through a very hard and painful period of personal growth, but I've come out of it much stronger and I've learned so much about myself. I had to face a very difficult realization that most of the time my mind was escaping into the realm of imagination and fantasy creation to escape a difficult life. I was rejecting the things in my life that I was afraid of or that hurt me and my desire to reject this life put me in resonance with others who also desired this. The reward for this difficult process has been coming back down to base reality and out of the realm of conspiracy and fantasy. I encountered a few really difficult wake-up calls on my trip back down to Earth, and in the process, I can now see all the stuff that was inside of me is stuff that I was projecting out to others. I sincerely apologize and I wish all of you the very best. Thanks for reading. All things contrived are like dream, illusion, bubble, shadow;
And as dewdrop or lightning.
They should be regarded as such.
Try to enjoy our grown-up Legoland again, Nightowl. There is nothing going on anyway.
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Jul 15, 2022 5:32:19 GMT
Phew. It's hard for me to come back here and read some of this stuff. I need to own up to the things I did and said, though, and I'm a lot stronger now than I was then. I need to make an apology to you all. This is me - Nightowl/Ariel/"what's her name" lol I apologize to anyone I may have influenced or caused fear/hurt feelings during a time in my life when I was caught up in my own pain and fear. I was in pretty bad shape, emotionally. Fortunately or unfortunately, however you want to look at it, I connected with and worked with Wes for a period of time. I've been through a very hard and painful period of personal growth, but I've come out of it much stronger and I've learned so much about myself. I had to face a very difficult realization that most of the time my mind was escaping into the realm of imagination and fantasy creation to escape a difficult life. I was rejecting the things in my life that I was afraid of or that hurt me and my desire to reject this life put me in resonance with others who also desired this. The reward for this difficult process has been coming back down to base reality and out of the realm of conspiracy and fantasy. I encountered a few really difficult wake-up calls on my trip back down to Earth, and in the process, I can now see all the stuff that was inside of me is stuff that I was projecting out to others. I sincerely apologize and I wish all of you the very best. Thanks for reading. Welcome back H.! No apology needed. We all walk our individual paths. And we all have to face our dark sides in order to find the balance. Great to hear you have made significant personal steps. Glad to hear from you. Love and Gratitude
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Post by IW on Jul 17, 2022 20:07:28 GMT
Hi leeah,
In case you missed it, welcome to Theories of life. Whether you've got revelations happening, as merlin mentioned, or questions/answers, or just come to hang out- make your thoughts known or share where you are at in the maze of self-discoveries.
No hard feelings, I don't have a shred of doubt that if Truelight was here, she would greet you with open arms, so don't let the past weigh you down. It takes a lot to come out of the shadows.
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