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Post by ML on Jul 2, 2018 10:07:51 GMT
Its amazing and encouraging to me that i was able to read Wes's recent work video 32 and JVP's new 'upon request section' ( i got access just a couple of hrs ago). the two materials ive read was in total sink! Its AWESOME!! Basically Wes' 'inner critic' is totally against us and Panella was actually saying the same thing in his writings ( a section i was reading ) -- EXCITING !!!
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Post by ML on Jul 2, 2018 10:20:34 GMT
and now i was in an article by Panella that says "EACH COUNTRY IS BEING RULED by a GOD" This is 100% in sink with Decoding the Hive time dilation by Avalon......
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Post by duckie on Jul 2, 2018 21:12:35 GMT
Have you also noticed an uncanny resemblance between Wes and John -- well, except for the hair and the beard...
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Post by girlscout on Jul 2, 2018 23:14:45 GMT
Can we get a link to Panella’s article? It’s recent, then?
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Post by girlscout on Jul 2, 2018 23:42:30 GMT
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Post by ML on Jul 3, 2018 0:01:11 GMT
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Post by ML on Jul 3, 2018 0:07:03 GMT
Have you also noticed an uncanny resemblance between Wes and John -- well, except for the hair and the beard... Both of them announced "RETIREMENT" within a period of less than a month Both of them came back approximately at the same time. Wes is already on video # 34 and Panella already has 15 New articles and a couple of videos. Both of them are now operating on a different platform Wes on Youtube with option to purchase pdf's of his videos while JVP only allows access upon requests -- I made a thread in the old forum about this. There's Definitely a link here.
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Post by duckie on Jul 3, 2018 1:46:36 GMT
Also interesting to note is that the "end of days" or the beginning of the time loop, according to Panella (2020) is so close to Avalon's 2022 cycle.
Panella actually has a countdown on the upper left of his homescreen...
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Post by ML on Jul 3, 2018 9:16:36 GMT
Thank you Wes for mentioning this forum in video 34
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Post by ML on Jul 3, 2018 9:27:25 GMT
here's the text from JVP that matches Wes' 'Inner Critic'
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Post by ML on Jul 5, 2018 1:04:54 GMT
Have you also noticed an uncanny resemblance between Wes and John -- well, except for the hair and the beard... Both of them announced "RETIREMENT" within a period of less than a month Both of them came back approximately at the same time. Wes is already on video # 34 and Panella already has 15 New articles and a couple of videos. Both of them are now operating on a different platform Wes on Youtube with option to purchase pdf's of his videos while JVP only allows access upon requests -- I made a thread in the old forum about this. There's Definitely a link here. Both of them are relatively active now.. both has new postings/articles almost everyday both have new postings today
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Post by girlscout on Jul 5, 2018 1:50:47 GMT
Have you also noticed an uncanny resemblance between Wes and John -- well, except for the hair and the beard... Both of them announced "RETIREMENT" within a period of less than a month Both of them came back approximately at the same time. Wes is already on video # 34 and Panella already has 15 New articles and a couple of videos. Both of them are now operating on a different platform Wes on Youtube with option to purchase pdf's of his videos while JVP only allows access upon requests -- I made a thread in the old forum about this. There's Definitely a link here. Any chance I can be vouched for? I submitted my email address, but haven’t heard anything back. =(
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Post by ML on Jul 5, 2018 2:01:08 GMT
Both of them announced "RETIREMENT" within a period of less than a month Both of them came back approximately at the same time. Wes is already on video # 34 and Panella already has 15 New articles and a couple of videos. Both of them are now operating on a different platform Wes on Youtube with option to purchase pdf's of his videos while JVP only allows access upon requests -- I made a thread in the old forum about this. There's Definitely a link here. Any chance I can be vouched for? I submitted my email address, but haven’t heard anything back. =( maybe he's a bit busy.. it took me 3 emails before i got a reply.. he'll get to it im sure.
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Post by Henrik on Jul 5, 2018 7:29:30 GMT
I'm sure it'll come, maybe send him another message in a couple of days. I got confirmation a couple of hours after sending a message, but probably just timing. On the other hand, there is no actual security to that site, it's just a link which most people won't know, it doesn't even contain any sort of parameter for validation.
Edit: ...but out of respect I won't be publishing the link here :-)
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Post by girlscout on Jul 7, 2018 16:18:05 GMT
Maybe I missed something in the first reading of his work? I’ll review....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 20:33:50 GMT
Now for me I do not see many similarities between Wes' work and Johns. Wes is Zecharia Sitchin based in his writings. Reptilian queen from some point in Orion who used debauchery to attain her throne. Some how we are her project? Yet alien master gods (her kids) come here for gold, make us slaves and gave humans their DNA and dumbed ours down? For me it does not sit right and is a contradiction in terms. Either we were modified from primitive human by these invaders or we were superior (but they watered down our DNA??) And sorry I cannot relate to a reptilian mom.
John is True Child/Christ Child based with a very different mindset. I don't even know how Wes recommended John seeing how different his teachings are. All our studies give us no more power over what ever it is we need power over.
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Post by IW on Jul 8, 2018 11:39:22 GMT
I'm with you myka. It's somewhat common sense as far as I see it.
The blending of dna between galactic man and reptilian/et dna was done
to create hu(reptilian/et)-man.
A hijacking to create "the queen's" experiment.
A wide net thrown out to catch as many as possible in the mother/father terminology.
Anyhow I do agree with Ariel in the sense that arguing is not the way to go and "convincing"
anyone is not our job.
Miron_Lang is right- keep to the gems and let the rest pass.
I am not sure what you meant about the power over aspect. All we need to do is to return to
ourselves. This is an overcoming of the amnesia.
No more manipulations and no more lies.
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Post by IW on Jul 8, 2018 14:59:25 GMT
I'm about 11 minutes into the Wes' recommended video of Tiamatt, not really happy that folks are going to be watching this in connection to his channel. So far the guy (I don't know who he is) has shown the sigil of Tiamatt 3 or 4 times and has been reading her invocations.
One of her titles is Queen of the Damned and Abominations. Her sigil is of many snakes. Tiamatt created MATTer. (why we are trapped here)
LOL, I'm shaking my head atm... A video that promptly and several times shows her SIGIL, who makes SIGILS? The Annunaki and the Els for spell casting. Does this ring a bell for anyone?
going to try and finish the video now.
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Post by IW on Jul 8, 2018 15:29:51 GMT
He's right about Jesus not being the savior And to not take the bible too literately/you will go crazy. And to try to not- stay in the box thinking. And to do 3 nice things a day, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 16:14:09 GMT
One of her titles is Queen of the Damned and Abominations. Her sigil is of many snakes. Tiamatt created MATTer. (why we are trapped here) It actually sounds a bit like John Lash Lamb and the Gnostic myth of Sophia the Aeon leaving the center of the Galaxy to embody herself as/into the planet Earth and we are her project. Again matter.
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Post by ML on Jul 9, 2018 1:20:10 GMT
Now for me I do not see many similarities between Wes' work and Johns. Wes is Zecharia Sitchin based in his writings. Reptilian queen from some point in Orion who used debauchery to attain her throne. Some how we are her project? Yet alien master gods (her kids) come here for gold, make us slaves and gave humans their DNA and dumbed ours down? For me it does not sit right and is a contradiction in terms. Either we were modified from primitive human by these invaders or we were superior (but they watered down our DNA??) And sorry I cannot relate to a reptilian mom. John is True Child/Christ Child based with a very different mindset. I don't even know how Wes recommended John seeing how different his teachings are. All our studies give us no more power over what ever it is we need power over. As we have discussed many times before. We are extremely UNIQUE. Let me reference our friend Henrik I always "knew" that there were something deeply profound about paradoxes... now it seems so simple it's laughable, haha from this thread : tribunilapulapu.freeforums.net/thread/221/dr-mesheril-manyfeathersits gonna be impossible specially from us in this forum to even approximate the experiences and thinking processes of one another. to be able to create the perception ( reality ) that each of us have now, we have gone through many many different realizations or a-ha moment. plus the fact that we are limited by 'words'... words are actually created to confuse us. in our original form/avatar we never used words. so what i do is ...i remove the 'words' and concentrate on the intent/message. Since John Panella grew up to be the son of a christian pastor in the US. his 'reality' is based on Judeo Christian religion.. it is his baseline.. from that baseline he saw that his reality is flawed and he is being manipulated. Wes on the other hand grew up in Europe and was very interested in astronomy. Like John he also realize that there's something terribly wrong with the world that he lives in. John was able to construct a hypothesis ( Hypothesis to us but fact to him ) with terminologies like 'Divine Father/Mother','Harvest','Mystery',''Grace' while Wes has 'Queen', 'Orion', 'Khaa', 'MIKH-MHAKS', '4% universe' for his Hypothesis. --- so if we look at this and focus on the terminologies/words then they re two different narratives. but if we let ourselves rely on the leanings/intuition and feel what they are saying .. me personally, see no difference at all. They are saying the same thing
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 1:37:37 GMT
Now for me I do not see many similarities between Wes' work and Johns. Wes is Zecharia Sitchin based in his writings. Reptilian queen from some point in Orion who used debauchery to attain her throne. Some how we are her project? Yet alien master gods (her kids) come here for gold, make us slaves and gave humans their DNA and dumbed ours down? For me it does not sit right and is a contradiction in terms. Either we were modified from primitive human by these invaders or we were superior (but they watered down our DNA??) And sorry I cannot relate to a reptilian mom. John is True Child/Christ Child based with a very different mindset. I don't even know how Wes recommended John seeing how different his teachings are. All our studies give us no more power over what ever it is we need power over. As we have discussed many times before. We are extremely UNIQUE. Let me reference our friend Henrik I always "knew" that there were something deeply profound about paradoxes... now it seems so simple it's laughable, haha from this thread : tribunilapulapu.freeforums.net/thread/221/dr-mesheril-manyfeathersits gonna be impossible specially from us in this forum to even approximate the experiences and thinking processes of one another. to be able to create the perception ( reality ) that each of us have now, we have gone through many many different realizations or a-ha moment. plus the fact that we are limited by 'words'... words are actually created to confuse us. in our original form/avatar we never used words. so what i do is ...i remove the 'words' and concentrate on the intent/message. Since John Panella grew up to be the son of a christian pastor in the US. his 'reality' is based on Judeo Christian religion.. it is his baseline.. from that baseline he saw that his reality is flawed and he is being manipulated. Wes on the other hand grew up in Europe and was very interested in astronomy. Like John he also realize that there's something terribly wrong with the world that he lives in. John was able to construct a hypothesis ( Hypothesis to us but fact to him ) with terminologies like 'Divine Father/Mother','Harvest','Mystery',''Grace' while Wes has 'Queen', 'Orion', 'Khaa', 'MIKH-MHAKS', '4% universe' for his Hypothesis. --- so if we look at this and focus on the terminologies/words then they re two different narratives. but if we let ourselves rely on the leanings/intuition and feel what they are saying .. me personally, see no difference at all. They are saying the same thing Sorry if I created any tension Marion. Was not my intent but sometimes I just type what I am thinking. I like how we all get along so well here and how we can bounce ideas off each other. We all jumped down a bottomless rabbit hole when we took this on. Everyone who comes up for air and tells of their experience is going to find someone else's story to have a different twist. I recently told another member here that what we study is myth based. I mean I cannot prove anything nor have I seen anyone else really prove anything. We need to pull the nuggets of truth from those stories then share them so we all learn.
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Post by ML on Jul 9, 2018 1:47:09 GMT
As we have discussed many times before. We are extremely UNIQUE. Let me reference our friend Henrik I always "knew" that there were something deeply profound about paradoxes... now it seems so simple it's laughable, haha from this thread : tribunilapulapu.freeforums.net/thread/221/dr-mesheril-manyfeathersits gonna be impossible specially from us in this forum to even approximate the experiences and thinking processes of one another. to be able to create the perception ( reality ) that each of us have now, we have gone through many many different realizations or a-ha moment. plus the fact that we are limited by 'words'... words are actually created to confuse us. in our original form/avatar we never used words. so what i do is ...i remove the 'words' and concentrate on the intent/message. Since John Panella grew up to be the son of a christian pastor in the US. his 'reality' is based on Judeo Christian religion.. it is his baseline.. from that baseline he saw that his reality is flawed and he is being manipulated. Wes on the other hand grew up in Europe and was very interested in astronomy. Like John he also realize that there's something terribly wrong with the world that he lives in. John was able to construct a hypothesis ( Hypothesis to us but fact to him ) with terminologies like 'Divine Father/Mother','Harvest','Mystery',''Grace' while Wes has 'Queen', 'Orion', 'Khaa', 'MIKH-MHAKS', '4% universe' for his Hypothesis. --- so if we look at this and focus on the terminologies/words then they re two different narratives. but if we let ourselves rely on the leanings/intuition and feel what they are saying .. me personally, see no difference at all. They are saying the same thing Sorry if I created any tension Marion. Was not my intent but sometimes I just type what I am thinking. I like how we all get along so well here and how we can bounce ideas off each other. We all jumped down a bottomless rabbit hole when we took this on. Everyone who comes up for air and tells of their experience is going to find someone else's story to have a different twist. I recently told another member here that what we study is myth based. I mean I cannot prove anything nor have I seen anyone else really prove anything. We need to pull the nuggets of truth from those stories then share them so we all learn. no Myka, you did not. all i feel is love. edit : The word myth for example. It was considered as 'History' in the past. now myth is considered to be 'fictional' or events that was solely created by a single mind. everything is a lie really. all we need to really believe is ourselves.
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Post by ML on Jul 9, 2018 1:49:09 GMT
in fact its best. Your honesty is impeccable. I struggle to be at the level of your honesty. I encourage you to be you.. again we are unique. we must be who we are I'm totally being honest. i dont feel any tension from your post.
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Post by IW on Jul 9, 2018 1:54:56 GMT
I don't have antagonistic or ill will towards anyone and I was totally willing to accept things as Miron Lang had said IF I had NOT seen the recommended video with the sigil and invocation for the goddess.
This only proves the differences between Panella and Penre.
Anyhow as myka says there isn't any proving,
only go with your higher self ultimately!
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Post by ML on Jul 9, 2018 2:01:34 GMT
I don't have antagonistic or ill will towards anyone and I was totally willing to accept things as Miron Lang had said IF I had NOT seen the recommended video with the sigil and invocation for the goddess. This only proves the differences between Panella and Penre. Anyhow as myka says there isn't any proving, only go with your higher self ultimately! I agree. If you prove it to yourself then that is it. Thanks
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Post by IW on Jul 9, 2018 2:13:48 GMT
I hope you watch the video Miron, I'd like to see your posts on it, especially since Ariel and Wes are promoting it in their playlist...
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Post by ML on Jul 9, 2018 2:34:31 GMT
I hope you watch the video Miron, I'd like to see your posts on it, especially since Ariel and Wes are promoting it in their playlist... I have'nt seen it. link pls Thanks
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Post by ML on Oct 18, 2018 2:30:09 GMT
Our LOWER selves
Physical Body - w/c is programmed Astral Body - also programmed but much powerful because it is done by EMOTIONS Lower mental
are IN A CONTINUOUS BATTLE AGAINST
our HIGHER selves
Higher Mental body I AM PRESENCE - Higher Self
now our self that is here the DIVINE SPARK observes and listen to this BATTLE....
INITIALLY the LOWER has the ADVANTAGE because of the Programming and Illusion set upon us, but when we start to awaken..
we start to connect and tap into this wi-fi like connection up to the HIGHER Mental and Higher SELF.
EVERYTIME we engage in OVER EXTRAVAGANCE of things we LOVE in this WORLD ... WE help and connect to the LOWER GROUP
EVERY TIME we control and be NEUTRAL in our UNDERTAKINGS we help and connect to our HIGHER GROUP SELF.
Thanks
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