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Post by griffo on Feb 24, 2021 10:52:20 GMT
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Post by wornout on Feb 24, 2021 19:30:13 GMT
This has been occurring for awhile now. I don't doubt with all of the chem trails over the years that it is more than likely coming down with the rain, ice and snow.
Here some more to consider.
How to Use Snow When You Don't Have Running Water
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Post by griffo on Feb 25, 2021 10:00:59 GMT
I came across a lot of that chemtrail stuff years back. I think they are just normal contrails that I have seen to last longer in some peoples eyes. Contrails do last quite a long time though.
No more chemicals that is already used to pollute the air anyways. there is a lot of chemicals sprayed on crops and stuff which is hazardous and generally pollution from cars.
As for the plastic fibre yeah all that plastic from people has to end up somewhere I suppose :/
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Post by wornout on Feb 25, 2021 16:52:06 GMT
I came across a lot of that chemtrail stuff years back. I think they are just normal contrails that I have seen to last longer in some peoples eyes. Contrails do last quite a long time though. No more chemicals that is already used to pollute the air anyways. there is a lot of chemicals sprayed on crops and stuff which is hazardous and generally pollution from cars. As for the plastic fibre yeah all that plastic from people has to end up somewhere I suppose :/ I do suggest that you get outside in nature and observe both the skies and around on the ground. You will have a better understanding over time. I grew up on a farm and had the time to observe the environment around me. The contrails of my childhood are not the same as the chemtrails of today.
Yes, they said that they were going to clean up everything back in the 60's but it has never truly occurred. They could have made gas powered engines in cars cleaner long ago. Have you ever heard of the 100 mpg carburetors that never came to market. I wonder why? Now they gone off into the deep end trying to blame everything upon humans because we expell CO2 out of our lungs. This is BS. Now they are killing us off forcing us to breath it back in along with all of the other crap that is to be expelled also, because of masks.
This guy has observed this stuff for years.
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Post by griffo on Feb 25, 2021 18:14:02 GMT
To me such a cover up makes no sense it doesn't add up. I don't think there is anything to suggest the chemical composition has changed so much of the contrails. I don't go thinking instantly everything is cover up here and there, yes there are nefarious forces in the world acting in their own interest but generally they won't do something unless its for their gain. For example cover up in car efficiancy for money making. I'm in the UK though and at least here they released this paper explaining things. www.gov.uk/government/publications/chemtrails-and-contrails--2 It describes how climate affects the persistancy of trails, the balance of humidity and temperature. And is particulary more noticeable in air traffic hubs or where contrail is orientated perpendicular. It's not impossible thing to happen but ofc its such a far flung thing to assume considering there are other much clearer explanations which cut to the point. I'm not saying there isn't any climate intervention but that it's unlikely this has something to do with it if there is such, beyond climate change and general pollution. I don't see any large scale geoengineering otherwise at least here where I am. The effects of climate change are seen ofc with more dry weather in certain areas as an example. As for the video this talk of "chemically" sounds off. Everything contains chemicals just some are natural and some are man made, and he is incredibly vague . What is happening to the forest could be all sorts of things and there isnt a really pin point to anything. Planes fly all the time here outside my window and perhaps due to height or outside temp rarely if any contrails. But I have seen contrails in the past in the sky not too far but they did not seem unusual and would still dissapear after not too long. I can't speak for observations in other places (and i'm not in the US yes) but it all seems pretty off and non conherent for a theory, linking unrelated things together. And.. if you go too far into nature here there are very few planes as no flight path, so no trails in the air. It's kinda like just because a certain film (about accidents maybe even?) came out on the same day you had an accident does that mean it caused it?
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Post by wornout on Feb 25, 2021 22:18:03 GMT
To me such a cover up makes no sense it doesn't add up. I don't think there is anything to suggest the chemical composition has changed so much of the contrails. I don't go thinking instantly everything is cover up here and there, yes there are nefarious forces in the world acting in their own interest but generally they won't do something unless its for their gain. For example cover up in car efficiancy for money making. I'm in the UK though and at least here they released this paper explaining things. www.gov.uk/government/publications/chemtrails-and-contrails--2 It describes how climate affects the persistancy of trails, the balance of humidity and temperature. And is particulary more noticeable in air traffic hubs or where contrail is orientated perpendicular. It's not impossible thing to happen but ofc its such a far flung thing to assume considering there are other much clearer explanations which cut to the point. I'm not saying there isn't any climate intervention but that it's unlikely this has something to do with it if there is such, beyond climate change and general pollution. I don't see any large scale geoengineering otherwise at least here where I am. The effects of climate change are seen ofc with more dry weather in certain areas as an example. As for the video this talk of "chemically" sounds off. Everything contains chemicals just some are natural and some are man made, and he is incredibly vague . What is happening to the forest could be all sorts of things and there isnt a really pin point to anything. Planes fly all the time here outside my window and perhaps due to height or outside temp rarely if any contrails. But I have seen contrails in the past in the sky not too far but they did not seem unusual and would still dissapear after not too long. I can't speak for observations in other places (and i'm not in the US yes) but it all seems pretty off and non conherent for a theory, linking unrelated things together. And.. if you go too far into nature here there are very few planes as no flight path, so no trails in the air. It's kinda like just because a certain film (about accidents maybe even?) came out on the same day you had an accident does that mean it caused it?
I did give that Freedom of Info. release of 2014 a quick once over and it looks like it a document of plausible denialabilty. Did you ever consider that this is a global agenda coming out of the UN etc. and they don't have to be straight up with us subjects/citizens/serfs?
The reasons that I did share that vid from that guy from Texas is: 1. he's close to the earth, 2. it's recent 3. he has his own site. I was hoping you look into his stuff further. Here's some more vids & I believe some are from your side of the pond.
Can your explain these chemtrail star patterns? I saw my very first one back in 2004 while on a bicycle ride in Tampa Bay Florida area over Clearwater Beach while I was living in Florida. I sorry but normal commerical jets just don't do this.
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Post by griffo on Feb 26, 2021 7:59:49 GMT
To me such a cover up makes no sense it doesn't add up. I don't think there is anything to suggest the chemical composition has changed so much of the contrails. I don't go thinking instantly everything is cover up here and there, yes there are nefarious forces in the world acting in their own interest but generally they won't do something unless its for their gain. For example cover up in car efficiancy for money making. I'm in the UK though and at least here they released this paper explaining things. www.gov.uk/government/publications/chemtrails-and-contrails--2 It describes how climate affects the persistancy of trails, the balance of humidity and temperature. And is particulary more noticeable in air traffic hubs or where contrail is orientated perpendicular. It's not impossible thing to happen but ofc its such a far flung thing to assume considering there are other much clearer explanations which cut to the point. I'm not saying there isn't any climate intervention but that it's unlikely this has something to do with it if there is such, beyond climate change and general pollution. I don't see any large scale geoengineering otherwise at least here where I am. The effects of climate change are seen ofc with more dry weather in certain areas as an example. As for the video this talk of "chemically" sounds off. Everything contains chemicals just some are natural and some are man made, and he is incredibly vague . What is happening to the forest could be all sorts of things and there isnt a really pin point to anything. Planes fly all the time here outside my window and perhaps due to height or outside temp rarely if any contrails. But I have seen contrails in the past in the sky not too far but they did not seem unusual and would still dissapear after not too long. I can't speak for observations in other places (and i'm not in the US yes) but it all seems pretty off and non conherent for a theory, linking unrelated things together. And.. if you go too far into nature here there are very few planes as no flight path, so no trails in the air. It's kinda like just because a certain film (about accidents maybe even?) came out on the same day you had an accident does that mean it caused it?
I did give that Freedom of Info. release of 2014 a quick once over and it looks like it a document of plausible denialabilty. Did you ever consider that this is a global agenda coming out of the UN etc. and they don't have to be straight up with us subjects/citizens/serfs?
The reasons that I did share that vid from that guy from Texas is: 1. he's close to the earth, 2. it's recent 3. he has his own site. I was hoping you look into his stuff further. Here's some more vids & I believe some are from your side of the pond.
Can your explain these chemtrail star patterns? I saw my very first one back in 2004 while on a bicycle ride in Tampa Bay Florida area over Clearwater Beach while I was living in Florida. I sorry but normal commerical jets just don't do this.
Literally just the same contrails lol People make patterns in the sky for fun, that's how you form such by swooping the plane up and down. If you have seen such plane ceremonies and people writing messages in the sky. It literally happens in movies. How can you jump to that and chemical pollution I don't know. You can literally buy your own planes and practice or borrow (if you have money ofc and a license). As well as plane shows and people in the RAF and such. Forgot to say previous video you could tell the guys mind was made up before he looked at the evidence. He was looking at all that was around him with preconception rather than letting evidence really speak, as well as jumping to the idea of cover up. And he even refered to the rain as toxins, which is almost like new agey. He did also talk about weather but he did not seem to give any detailed indication of understanding anything. Yeah ofc any information request can lack detail but by far it does provide clarity. But the UN literally has no real power in that sort of thing. It's just a bunch of countries standing for things and they use it to condemn other countries. Especially with China involved. I can understand distaste and distrust of such a thing but i can say that's pretty unlikely and also a jump to make. Saying that id be interested to hear on what u think of the UN and such. I think there is suprisingly little evidence for some theory that has been out a very long time. And much more against it. As for certain unsual dark ones contrailscience.com/contrails-dark-lines-chemtrails/But i would think them being black does add little to it if you are claiming that the white ones are too. I can see little in common with those photos that is a pattern between them other than the claim that they all last longer which doesn't really suggest some kind of "chemical" operation. Only the suggestion this is a different sort. You have to remember in times like the 70s there was less widespread air travel. Things were different back then. There are much more planes or were perhaps slightly less now with covid. As for changing weather patterns pretty much the main factor is climate change, which is linked to all the pollution from energy. The only willing people I see who are polluting the air are the people who run their big trucks with as much fumes as possible because they do not believe in clinate change. I'm thinking there is a lot of those in Texas.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 2:58:27 GMT
Omg really. I have shoveled tons of snow up in New England and even a bit here in Austin Texas on rare occasion. I know snow and trust me last week I removed 7 inches of cold fresh powder off my driveway. Folks the disinformation piled upon more disinformation is enough to make ones head spin and this is the intent. Divide then control because little belief systems full of half truths are adopted by too many splinter groups who will fight among themselves. Even this truther movement we adhere to is full of intended spin. High end intel sponsors well spoken personalities to mix a bit of truth with a lot of BS. Who is smart enough to know the difference?
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Post by griffo on Feb 27, 2021 7:31:42 GMT
Omg really. I have shoveled tons of snow up in New England and even a bit here in Austin Texas on rare occasion. I know snow and trust me last week I removed 7 inches of cold fresh powder off my driveway. Folks the disinformation piled upon more disinformation is enough to make ones head spin and this is the intent. Divide then control because little belief systems full of half truths are adopted by too many splinter groups who will fight among themselves. Even this truther movement we adhere to is full of intended spin. High end intel sponsors well spoken personalities to mix a bit of truth with a lot of BS. Who is smart enough to know the difference? I suppose observation and testing I guess the snow thing is something that you can do at home and boil snow to check Snow does vary in quality a lot I have had the more bouncy grainy sorts but also the more sticky soft stuff or slushy after melting. The thing is there are always people who are trying to confuse things either intentionally or unconsciously. These the days even mainstream media is lazy and if something sells they might even check the source properly and just repost things and they spread regardless of truth, click bait titles and all. Disinformation spreads quickly or information generally too if it catches on.
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Post by OneWhoIsAwake on Feb 27, 2021 19:35:50 GMT
I came across a lot of that chemtrail stuff years back. I think they are just normal contrails that I have seen to last longer in some peoples eyes. Contrails do last quite a long time though. No more chemicals that is already used to pollute the air anyways. there is a lot of chemicals sprayed on crops and stuff which is hazardous and generally pollution from cars. As for the plastic fibre yeah all that plastic from people has to end up somewhere I suppose :/ Aerospace Worker: "I Installed Chemtrails Devices" @ Monday Demonstration 5/12/2014 - ENGLISH SUBS
PETER KIRBY : THE NEW MANHATTAN PROJECT : WEATHER MANIPULATION edited FINALJAN 25 2019
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Post by griffo on Feb 27, 2021 20:27:57 GMT
Nah I don't trust that guy lol or the rest of any of it. Chemtrails it's all been debunked before. And so much of it is like based on distrust of organisations Contrails may affect other clouds and weather patterns but that not part of some plan. There is nothing added for a mass geoengineering and such mass manipulation (at least to the level some ppl claim) is not feasible. There are people who test these contrails even and they have found nothing. Worse different people claiming different opposite things happening due to it. It's just some watchmojo vid (entertainment more than anything) but it gives the idea of how many wildy different claims people make. www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/06/aviation-s-dirty-secret-airplane-contrails-are-surprisingly-potent-cause-global-warming Here is mentioned how aviation is bad for the environment. There is a certain warming effect. And a mention of how the UN is trying to mention to keep CO2 levels down and not mention contrails specifically. But that doesn't suggest there is a purposeful scheme unless you suggesting that someone is making the fuels inefficient on purpose, but as far as I know that is not how the theory goes. Overall though the warming effect compared to overall of society is not loads. There is nothing to suggest mass geoengineering or anything of the sorts. I won't rule out anything 100 percent but these theories are too wild and unsupported, with anything that really holds. In the end though I think concering yourself in this will really make a difference or be healthy or useful. If there is any truth in it? That's good I guess but it all in this state a confused mess with nothing to it.
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Post by wornout on Feb 27, 2021 23:22:32 GMT
I did give that Freedom of Info. release of 2014 a quick once over and it looks like it a document of plausible denialabilty. Did you ever consider that this is a global agenda coming out of the UN etc. and they don't have to be straight up with us subjects/citizens/serfs?
The reasons that I did share that vid from that guy from Texas is: 1. he's close to the earth, 2. it's recent 3. he has his own site. I was hoping you look into his stuff further. Here's some more vids & I believe some are from your side of the pond.
Can your explain these chemtrail star patterns? I saw my very first one back in 2004 while on a bicycle ride in Tampa Bay Florida area over Clearwater Beach while I was living in Florida. I sorry but normal commerical jets just don't do this.
Literally just the same contrails lol People make patterns in the sky for fun, that's how you form such by swooping the plane up and down. If you have seen such plane ceremonies and people writing messages in the sky. It literally happens in movies. How can you jump to that and chemical pollution I don't know. You can literally buy your own planes and practice or borrow (if you have money ofc and a license). As well as plane shows and people in the RAF and such. Forgot to say previous video you could tell the guys mind was made up before he looked at the evidence. He was looking at all that was around him with preconception rather than letting evidence really speak, as well as jumping to the idea of cover up. And he even refered to the rain as toxins, which is almost like new agey. He did also talk about weather but he did not seem to give any detailed indication of understanding anything. Yeah ofc any information request can lack detail but by far it does provide clarity. But the UN literally has no real power in that sort of thing. It's just a bunch of countries standing for things and they use it to condemn other countries. Especially with China involved. I can understand distaste and distrust of such a thing but i can say that's pretty unlikely and also a jump to make. Saying that id be interested to hear on what u think of the UN and such. I think there is suprisingly little evidence for some theory that has been out a very long time. And much more against it. As for certain unsual dark ones contrailscience.com/contrails-dark-lines-chemtrails/But i would think them being black does add little to it if you are claiming that the white ones are too. I can see little in common with those photos that is a pattern between them other than the claim that they all last longer which doesn't really suggest some kind of "chemical" operation. Only the suggestion this is a different sort. You have to remember in times like the 70s there was less widespread air travel. Things were different back then. There are much more planes or were perhaps slightly less now with covid. As for changing weather patterns pretty much the main factor is climate change, which is linked to all the pollution from energy. The only willing people I see who are polluting the air are the people who run their big trucks with as much fumes as possible because they do not believe in clinate change. I'm thinking there is a lot of those in Texas. Hi Griffo, Well I don't think that I can convince you one way or another.
But I do not speak from one who does not have any aviation background. I have both flown airplanes as a pilot and have worked on them as a mechanic.
Yes, I will agree with you that aviation traffic has greatly increased in my lifetime, but all of this contrail/chemtrail debate didn't really come to the forefront until the last 20 years or so. In other words, something is up. If it wasn't people wouldn't be talking about it.
As far as the pictures of the star patterns, etc., it is not people joyriding in their small privately own aircraft and creating them. The first one I saw there was not an airshow going on anywhere in the Tampa Bay area of Florida. There was other patterns going on at the time but I chose that one for it was the most distinct and no, I didn't have a camera or smartphone with me at the time, but I had a witness with me and he was just dumbfounded when I pointed it out .
You can't just joyride and do such things in an aircraft. We're talking about FAA regulations. The only way that these can be occuring is it to be some off the books programs which allow these black ops people to do all of this.
Why don't you get into your motorcar and go out into the public roads or parking lots and perform some donuts or other crazy manuvers in it and try to tell the police that you were just joyriding.
Have a great day.🙂
p.s. Just in case you want to look at it. Alan Watt - Mysterious White Planes You're Not Supposed to Know About www.bitchute.com/video/QjUYEiwcxpg/Chemtrails – Dwie dekady bez witaminy D
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Post by OneWhoIsAwake on Feb 28, 2021 4:38:07 GMT
Nah I don't trust that guy lol or the rest of any of it. Chemtrails it's all been debunked before. And so much of it is like based on distrust of organisations Contrails may affect other clouds and weather patterns but that not part of some plan. There is nothing added for a mass geoengineering and such mass manipulation (at least to the level some ppl claim) is not feasible. There are people who test these contrails even and they have found nothing. Worse different people claiming different opposite things happening due to it. It's just some watchmojo vid (entertainment more than anything) but it gives the idea of how many wildy different claims people make. www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/06/aviation-s-dirty-secret-airplane-contrails-are-surprisingly-potent-cause-global-warming Here is mentioned how aviation is bad for the environment. There is a certain warming effect. And a mention of how the UN is trying to mention to keep CO2 levels down and not mention contrails specifically. But that doesn't suggest there is a purposeful scheme unless you suggesting that someone is making the fuels inefficient on purpose, but as far as I know that is not how the theory goes. Overall though the warming effect compared to overall of society is not loads. There is nothing to suggest mass geoengineering or anything of the sorts. I won't rule out anything 100 percent but these theories are too wild and unsupported, with anything that really holds. In the end though I think concering yourself in this will really make a difference or be healthy or useful. If there is any truth in it? That's good I guess but it all in this state a confused mess with nothing to it. Red pill or blue pill?
Dr. Ilya Sandra Perlingieri talks about chemtrails
aerosol crimes - breathe deeply
Secret Chemtrail Pilot Speaks, on Dec 8, 2014
Chemtrails England UK Birmingham,
chemtrails Graz, Austria
Crazy chemtrails
Chemtrails over France
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 4:49:51 GMT
My take? You want it? Everyone of these photos are photoshop bullshit. Why would you believe them to be true? What proof do you have they are true? Do not be presenting more YouTube crap to try and prove yourself. Commercial pilots number in the thousands. Mechanics and other service techs number in the thousands. Do you really believe all of them keep secrets without ever spilling the beans? Contrails happen within certain atmospheric conditions that include temperature and humidity. No craft produces demonic hex patterns. There are far more important things to be concerned with.
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Post by griffo on Feb 28, 2021 11:44:01 GMT
There are plenty of places you can fly and it is possible for someone to draw that shape with permission. It shows more that you can do it, but the fact they got permission to do it is itself not prove anything. And it's a pattern how does that prove chemical conspiracy? You think the shape itself is manipulating people? It's just a star come on. It's an easy shape to draw with a plane. That's what I mean, there is nothing special or siginificant in that context other than some ppl see it as some symbols. Literally children draw that shape to mean star. No more than a heart. And so you think that it was some backhanded project to draw a star or something in the sky. Hm. There is no coherent theory and all these evidence videos are just random contrails in the sky. Normal contrails can and will last a long time. That in itself shows flaws in the theory. As I linked earlier climate change with contrails is a genuine issue, not this. This is something that got much popular during the times of the internet rising, although its roots are in mistrust of organisations. Yet people trust these randos stating vague things.
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Post by wornout on Feb 28, 2021 21:36:19 GMT
My take? You want it? Everyone of these photos are photoshop bullshit. Why would you believe them to be true? What proof do you have they are true? Do not be presenting more YouTube crap to try and prove yourself. Commercial pilots number in the thousands. Mechanics and other service techs number in the thousands. Do you really believe all of them keep secrets without ever spilling the beans? Contrails happen within certain atmospheric conditions that include temperature and humidity. No craft produces demonic hex patterns. There are far more important things to be concerned with. Not everything is fake....
So you are saying what myself and my friend did see, wasn't produced by some kind of craft?
Snowden uncovers shocking truth behind Chemtrails chronicle.su/news/snowden-uncovers-shocking-truth-behind-chemtrails/MOSCOW, Russia – Edward Snowden, the hacker who gained access to every secret corner of the Internet during his tenure at the NSA, has come forward with details of a classified project to alter the world’s climate.The shocking truth, as he says, is that chemtrails are part of a benevolent program aimed at countering global warming. By cooperating in secret with jet fuel manufacturers, government agents have carefully kept the massive chemtrail efforts completely under wraps. Snowden added, “I am only revealing this program because there is no oversight in the scientific community, no public discussion, and little concern for the side-effects which are well known only to a few privileged people interested in continuing the decades-long chemtrail program in secret.” Because climate change is a threat to U.S. agriculture, it has been labeled a national security issue. With the influence and cooperation of Monsanto, a secret Geoengineering lab dubbed Muad’Dib has been operating since the late 1960s, and the chemtrail program is often referred to by insiders as its “crown jewel.” Muad’Dib has aimed to protect North America’s climate at all costs – even if that means accelerating desertification in Sub-Saharan Africa or spreading trace amounts of carcinogens over lightly populated areas. Other side effects, which scientists at the secret Muad’Dib Geoengineering Lab have predicted, include droughts in the Amazon and powerful windstorms along the East Coast. Snowden shared decisive documents with The Internet Chronicle, but out of concern for national security, only his testimonial can be published. These documents contain references to scientists who would surely be targeted by foreign counterintelligence, and their knowledge is vital to short-term survival of the United States. Snowden said, “If this program were to stop, the scientists behind it strongly believe that within just one year the North American climate would spiral out of control, and crop failures would lead to a series of devastating famines that would quickly depopulate urban centers.” Because the program has been carried out on such a massive scale, skeptics might find Snowden’s story unbelievable. However, Snowden explained that the chemtrail program has been incredibly easy to hide, especially with the cooperation of jet fuel companies, a crucial part of the military-industrial complex. Snowden said, “The chemicals which are released by passenger airplanes have been covertly introduced as ‘additives,’ supposedly to improve efficiency. Only as the plane reaches cruising velocity does the heat and atmospheric pressure cause a chemical reaction that synthesizes the top secret carbon-trapping molecule. This process is imperfect, and many of the by-products are incredibly dangerous even in trace quantities. The most dangerous thing is that although chemtrails are keeping the climate of the U.S. reasonably stable, citizens are bombarded every day with an invisible rain of carbon-laden molecules, and the effect on health is totally unknown.”
CIA DIRECTOR JOHN BRENNAN ADMITS TO CHEMTRAILS (STRATOSPHERIC AEROSOL INJECTION)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 2:09:35 GMT
If and that is a big if, those were created by a craft then they were intentionally created to convince us there are real chemtrails. And again there could be in places military craft spreading something out the exhaust out of jets but certainly not in decorative hex patterns. Why would they? The com trails (water vapor) we see in cool blue skies near busy airports are just that. Vapor trails.
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Post by wornout on Mar 1, 2021 5:24:18 GMT
If and that is a big if, those were created by a craft then they were intentionally created to convince us there are real chemtrails. And again there could be in places military craft spreading something out the exhaust out of jets but certainly not in decorative hex patterns. Why would they? The com trails (water vapor) we see in cool blue skies near busy airports are just that. Vapor trails. I can only speculate as to the reasons behind the "decorative hex patterns". Dark magic spell casting trying to open portals or since shapes are also related to frequencies, it could be that it has to do with electro magnectics which they are possibly using to manipulate something i.e. weather. I only present the following in order to try to connect the dots. I don't have all of the answers. I just know something has been going on based upon my own outside observations in the past 20 years. It's more than water vapor trails.
Geoengineering Watch: Our First Ever High Altitude Atmospheric Testing
Alan Watt: Mysterious White Planes You're Not Supposed to Know About
Pentagram Chemtrail in Norway- This is a spiritual war!
SHASTA, CA Hearing on Covert Chemtrail Operation
Secret Chemtrail Video Captured by Pilots in the Cockpit
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Post by griffo on Mar 1, 2021 8:38:57 GMT
I very much doubt this has anything to do with "magic".
Now in the case of so called "magic" which is really just messing with the astral, i doubt it can be used to manipulate weather. And if anyone succeeded it would create a big anomaly and chaos. Anything non physical does not cooperate with physical laws and can be considered illusory.
There may or may not be something going on but it could be anything. (If you are discrediting climate change and just general contrail explanations) By trying to connect the dots I think you will find there are many inconsistencies and variations
Here is a quote from Philip G. Site that is useful relating to people who 'try to use their mind to divert things'.
" I think it unlikely in the extreme that anyone has ever diverted a tornado, or similarly amended any other weather event, by psychic means in the physical 'reality' in the whole of human history.
I'd expect accounts of such things having happened to belong to two simple categories: (a) astral realm experiences and (b) situations where the relevant person had had very poorly grounded awareness and had thus been very gullible to the garbage-sourced notion that (s)he could achieve such feats, and had been extremely selective about what data they accepted relating to their ability or otherwise to psychically affect physical phenomena.
If you stop and think about it, if I thought I was diverting a tornado from taking a particular course, how ever would I be able to know that it would have done otherwise if I hadn't attempted to divert it?
-- Of course I couldn't know such a thing at all! So, straightaway I'd be deceiving myself as well as anyone else if I made any claim to have diverted the tornado myself. Also, if people really could control weather phenomena psychically, just think of the absolute chaos we'd have, with our weather phenomena repeatedly disobeying physical 'laws' in happening where it's physically impossible for them to happen, and all sorts of unpredictabilities where different people's attempts to control particular weather phenomena were in conflict!
All those things can happen in an astral realm, for within the astral non-reality there are no consistent physical 'laws' and indeed a sort of chaos reigns. In an astral realm a thunderstorm with terrifying lightning strikes and phenomenal hailstones could be created at the drop of a hat, without reference to whether the adiabatic lapse rate in the upper atmosphere would support such a phenomenon - because in the astral non-reality there's no such thing as an atmospheric lapse rate (change of temperature with altitude) at all to start with - there's just illusion and make-believe!" He talks more about astral realms and illusory reality at length.
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Post by girlscout on Mar 4, 2021 0:00:21 GMT
I very much doubt this has anything to do with "magic". Now in the case of so called "magic" which is really just messing with the astral, i doubt it can be used to manipulate weather. And if anyone succeeded it would create a big anomaly and chaos. Anything non physical does not cooperate with physical laws and can be considered illusory. There may or may not be something going on but it could be anything. (If you are discrediting climate change and just general contrail explanations) By trying to connect the dots I think you will find there are many inconsistencies and variations Here is a quote from Philip G. Site that is useful relating to people who 'try to use their mind to divert things'. " I think it unlikely in the extreme that anyone has ever diverted a tornado, or similarly amended any other weather event, by psychic means in the physical 'reality' in the whole of human history. I'd expect accounts of such things having happened to belong to two simple categories: (a) astral realm experiences and (b) situations where the relevant person had had very poorly grounded awareness and had thus been very gullible to the garbage-sourced notion that (s)he could achieve such feats, and had been extremely selective about what data they accepted relating to their ability or otherwise to psychically affect physical phenomena. If you stop and think about it, if I thought I was diverting a tornado from taking a particular course, how ever would I be able to know that it would have done otherwise if I hadn't attempted to divert it? -- Of course I couldn't know such a thing at all! So, straightaway I'd be deceiving myself as well as anyone else if I made any claim to have diverted the tornado myself. Also, if people really could control weather phenomena psychically, just think of the absolute chaos we'd have, with our weather phenomena repeatedly disobeying physical 'laws' in happening where it's physically impossible for them to happen, and all sorts of unpredictabilities where different people's attempts to control particular weather phenomena were in conflict! All those things can happen in an astral realm, for within the astral non-reality there are no consistent physical 'laws' and indeed a sort of chaos reigns. In an astral realm a thunderstorm with terrifying lightning strikes and phenomenal hailstones could be created at the drop of a hat, without reference to whether the adiabatic lapse rate in the upper atmosphere would support such a phenomenon - because in the astral non-reality there's no such thing as an atmospheric lapse rate (change of temperature with altitude) at all to start with - there's just illusion and make-believe!" He talks more about astral realms and illusory reality at length. Funny you should give that example!
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Post by wornout on Mar 22, 2021 18:45:56 GMT
Another perspective for all of this.
INVASIVE BLACK GOO and AI: Biggest THREAT to the PLANET EARTH (Extraterrestrial Message-Pleiades)
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Post by griffo on Mar 24, 2021 4:47:06 GMT
Another perspective for all of this. INVASIVE BLACK GOO and AI: Biggest THREAT to the PLANET EARTH (Extraterrestrial Message-Pleiades)
I'd be careful looking at supposed extraterrestrial messages. Could likely be channeled information designed to lure you in. Or carry charged thoughtforms. In most cases a simulation of aliens to trap you into something sinister and mislead you through hostile means. ---- I wanted to share this I saw there is a scary sounding geoengineering that Bill Gates is planning. www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9392641/Bill-Gates-wants-spray-millions-tonnes-CHALK-stratosphere.html Bill gates is a crazy guy though these days he is comtinuing the work of monsanto. Ofc somebody else invented the concept
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