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Post by ML on Jun 21, 2020 15:05:29 GMT
A serpent's den?!
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Post by ML on Jun 28, 2020 21:02:53 GMT
<<((they live))>>
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Post by mironlang on Jun 29, 2020 2:44:40 GMT
So Lindsay Graham is also deep state?
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Post by IW on Nov 29, 2020 18:18:46 GMT
Hi Miron, this is for you since you asked about Lindsey, giving Kamala the fist bump like they took care of Trump...
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Post by mironlang on Nov 30, 2020 11:53:37 GMT
Hi Miron, this is for you since you asked about Lindsey, giving Kamala the fist bump like they took care of Trump...
Thanks wome ))))))) Politics is so convoluted LOL.
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Post by mironlang on Jan 7, 2021 12:21:02 GMT
now we know. Pence and Graham.
Having the eyes to see is wonderful. LOL.
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Post by Stranger2 on Jan 13, 2021 2:54:31 GMT
While you guys are believing in these conspiracy theories, you are clearly neglecting another pretty obvious one. US is divided and weakened and at the brink of a Civil War after Trump's 4 years. How did that happen and who do you think would benefit from it? Putin knew that he lost Russia's position as an economic, political and military super-empire. But he designed a smart strategy using an ancient recipe of "divide and conquer": if it is not possible to confront US from outside, then try to divide and weaken it from the inside. He succeeded with this strategy immensely. How did he do that? It was a common practice in USSR that prostitutes would be hired by KGB to engage with foreign visitors, than their intimate meetings would be filmed in USSR hotel rooms equipped with hidden cameras and used as compromising material to threaten and convince those visitors to engage with KGB in espionage. I lived there and my friend's father worked at KGB, so I know it for a fact. The same trick was used on Trump during his multiple visits to Russia. To me it is pretty obvious that Putin has compromising tapes involving Trump. Now, think about it from Putin's perspective: what would you do if you would be Putin and would have those tapes? Exactly: get Trump hooked, help him to become a president and use him to do whatever is possible to weaken the US, ideally bringing it to civil war. Putin has an army of clever strategists who designed multiple plots for Trump's possible actions. The "stolen election" conspiracy plot was Putin ingenious strategy, you can't possibly find a better way to divide US population and catalyze a civil war in the current situation. And now we are seeing it unfolding according to the plan, and more is coming. In addition to directing and controlling Trump, Putin's agents have large anonymous presence in US social media including conspiracy theory, anti-establishment and antigovernmental sites and youtube accounts with the purpose of polluting people's minds with all sorts of theories to deteriorate people's trust in the democracy and the government. There is an invisible propaganda and mind's brainwashing war against US by Putin's dictatorship taking place not at the geographical borders and not by military means where US is definitely stronger, but right at the heart of the US internal, political and social structures, where US is vulnerable, not prepared to fight and not expecting any threat, and Puting is obviously winning it. (I'm not saying it is the war by Russia or Russians, because Putin does not represent Russian nation, he is a dictator and only represents himself). But what amazes me is how people in US can be so naive? Amazingly, US security just recently discovered a major online breach into Pentagon and other US agencies by Putin's hackers, but noone seem to care now in US where people are so preoccupied with the political division. Putin keeps situation in US under control and know all your secrets guys, you are loosing this invisible war without noticing it and US is being demoralizes and weakened economically, politically and psychologically. Trump keeps saying that China is the US major threat, obviously turning people's attention away from Russia to a false target - China. But China is not interested in destroying US because it heavily depends on US as a major trade partner and importer of Chinese made goods, but Putin absolutely is interested. In addition to his imperialistic and geopolitical ambitions, one of Putin's strategic purposes is to convince Russian population that the American democracy as a social and political structure is flawed and does not work, because his opponents who promote free elections and democracy in Russia use US as a model of a successful country based on democracy. So, a disintegration of institutions and people's trust in them, and slipping into a civil war in US is a double-win scenario for Putin both in the geopolitical war and in his internal grip on power. And he is obviously winning, slowly but consistently. You guys are warned.
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Post by mironlang on Jan 13, 2021 3:08:30 GMT
It is Russia and not China.
I think that is what CNN, MSNBC and the rest of MSM are telling us?
That means they are telling the truth?
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Post by Stranger2 on Jan 13, 2021 3:46:02 GMT
It is Russia and not China. I think that is what CNN, MSNBC and the rest of MSM are telling us? That means they are telling the truth? Yes, it is Russia, and whoever is telling it is telling the truth, I don't care if it is CNN or Fox. You can even see it from insider perspectives of those countries. Talk to Chinese and Russians and ask them how US is portrayed in their internal propaganda. In China there is not much negative propaganda against US, America is not considered by Chinese government as an enemy at least in the open media. In Russia it is quite the opposite: Putin's propaganda portrays US, together with Europe, as the main enemies of Russia, they are heavily demonized and criticized, all sorts of negative information and news from those countries is widely spread by Putin's controlled media while nothing positive is ever said. Also, I'm pretty convinced that COVID was purposely designed in Russia. The biological weapons development has a long history in Russia starting from USSR era, and they kept the developments secretly all the time disregarding any international treaties. So recently they designed COVID together with a vaccine against it, and dispersed a COVID sample at the Wuhan market using the same strategy to divert the blame and people's attention to China. Isn't it strange that Russia was the first country in the world to develop and introduce the COVID vaccine? Of course, because they had the vaccine even before they released COVID, but they could not introduce the vaccine too soon in order not to raise any suspicions. Their motive is pretty obvious: weaken the economies of the developed countries and demoralize their populations. Basically, there is a biological, political and psychological war led by Putin's government, and while he lost his positions in the hardware military power, he understands that those military powers are now outdated, noone is going to invade US, Europe or Russia with missiles and weapons, what's the point of such war and how do you win in it? But instead, he is far ahead in his war on very different fronts where the developed countries are vulnerable and unprepared and don't even realize that they are being attacked and destroyed.
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Post by Henrik on Jan 13, 2021 12:37:53 GMT
Certainly these strategies you speak of exist. I have read about these Soviet strategies and it would be strange if Russian intelligence suddenly "forgot" about it or didn't use the methods you describe. But, I think you are giving Putin and Russian intelligence too much credit here. It seems to me to be the US politicians and the US media themselves, en masse, which are dividing people, on purpose. Thus, the conspiracy gets a whole lot bigger than just Putin and Trump. As far as I'm concernced, they are both pawns of "the family". There is no "deep state", as often described, but there certainly are "deep actors" in some form. I have seen plenty of videos documenting the centrally controlled narratives passing through US media and have read enough about CIA handlers in US media to think that FSB would somehow control all of US media. I don't think for one second that a lot, maybe even most, alt-media has not been set up as controlled opposition. None of these methods are new in any way. They are ancient and have been used to great effect for millenia.
Thus I'm not for letting down any guards when it comes to Putin, he seems too clever, but I'm not either going to be looking in his direction thinking the world is screwed over by him specifically. That is just going to draw our attention away from the hidden hands grubbing everything around us while we are looking at the circus presented to us, either in the media or alt-media or whatnot. This wholesale stealing occurs right in front of our eyes, EVERYWHERE, and we are "all" complicit. It is the magicians trick, distraction. It is amazing how effective this strategy is, even if you know about it and try to stay aware, the magician will likely have an easy time. Our bodies are trained to divert attention given certain stimuli. The actors do not get to write the play, or produce it, or direct it, or decorate it, or sell the tickets. They do as they are told or get written into other plays or off the script.
Thus, maybe MSM is telling us A truth, but it certainly is not THE truth, or the truth which we are looking for here, which would be a relatively accurate description of "the bigger picture". In that sense, it matters not how many troll factories or "unaffiliated" hacker groups Putin is funding, because I bet he is. Truly it does not matter whatever happens, as long as we are distracted and "they" can keep stealing shit. It doesn't matter if we believe 9/11 was CIA or Saudi, it doesn't matter if we believe we went to the moon or not or if the government is covering up stuff, as long as we are distracted and don't do anything practical to stop letting other people steal from everyone else. The ones stealing stuff doesn't care what any of us believe as long as they can keep doing what they want.
That is also why I think most alt-media, including conspiracies, are presented and expanded upon by "agents" of the very same people ultimately owning MSM. The confusion and circus IS the point, the content itself is NOT. The more information, confusion, divides and categories, the better.
That's my two cents, sorry I tend to drift off into rants trying to explain too much of what I'm thinking at once.
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Jan 13, 2021 20:47:21 GMT
"We'll know our disinformation progam is complete when everything the US public believes is false" - William J.Casey.
Howdie Mickoski has made 2 interesting interpretations on his YT channel about the allegory of Plato's cave. Most people who manage to free themselves from the chains and who realise that their reality is just an illusion start exploring the cave. Initially they try in vain to make their chained brothers and sisters aware of the fake reality. Since this is a futile effort that may even lead straight to the nut house they decide after a while to explore the cave. And there they find others who have also freed themselves. And they form groups who start exploring the cave. These are the people who investigate Gnostic texts, the WPP, the Flat Earth theory, the lies of his-story etc. etc.. As we all know you can spend a life researching any of these topics. Due to this 'dabbling' in the cave many fail to ever find the exit of the cave. Very few actually get to reach the exit of the cave and finally see the wonderful reality outside the cave. Maybe the matrix, the cave, only exists by virtue of the attention, the energy, that humanity gives it. So my question to you all who are so involved with this topic of Trump and Biden etc. is... Are you still dabbling in the cave? Maybe, whatever you focus on with your consciousness, whatever you give your attention to, receives your energy. Exists because you give it energy. Maybe whatever you see in the mirror, in this reflection we call reality, is the PAST. Maybe it only exists as a result of your energy AND it is in the PAST. Maybe you should focus on putting your attention to what you want to create rather than being distracted by what you are seeing in the mirror. Maybe you should stop trying to change the image in the mirror. Maybe you should start changing yourself rather than the image? Maybe the system does not care what you do as long as you stay distracted and engaged with the system and therefor you sustain the system.... And maybe I am a total nutcase .
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Post by Stranger2 on Jan 13, 2021 21:05:05 GMT
<<Maybe the system does not care what you do as long as you stay distracted and engaged with the system and therefor you sustain the system....>>
Exactly
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Post by mironlang on Jan 14, 2021 2:44:38 GMT
"We'll know our disinformation progam is complete when everything the US public believes is false" - William J.Casey. And maybe I am a total nutcase . Maybe we all need to be? lol in addition the cave is virtual. And for as long as the avatar is connected to this virtual cave it is important to at least have a grasp of what is happening in this cave.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2021 3:03:32 GMT
Maybe we are all nut cases for getting involved with this stuff to begin with?LOL.
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