The US has a new saucer/ship called Tic Toc which travels at 500 miles per hour underwater and 4,200 miles per hour in space. Hi Carter, I will first reproduce the account of William Cooper as he told of his experience from his
book, “ BEHOLD A PALE HORSE” before expounding upon my views of UFOs.
Note: This is when William Cooper was in the U.S. Navy
William Cooper • 15
“ I left the Air Force with an honorable discharge in 1965.
In December of the same year I joined the Navy. I had always loved
the ocean. I had wanted to be a sailor since I was a little boy. Seasick or not
I made up my mind to follow my dream. I was sent to the Naval Training
Center in San Diego for boot camp. Because of my prior Air Force ex-
perience I was made the Recruit Chief Company Commander. I was
allowed to keep my same rank and pay grade. We had a good bunch of
guys in my company and we had a great company commander. Chief
Campbell, chief electricians mate. He turned the company over to me. The
chief was a good man. He was only interested in teaching us what we
needed to know and in keeping us out of trouble. Unlike most boot camp
instructors, Chief Campbell had no axe to grind and wasn't trying to prove
anything to himself or anyone else. He was truly our friend.
During boot camp I volunteered for submarines (my sense of adven-
ture was very strong). I was accepted, and upon completion of basic
training, was ordered to the USS Tiru (SS-416) at the submarine base at
Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.”
Note: This is the UFO incident.
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“Lincoln went below. Geronimo and I began the unending task of
sweeping the horizon from bow to stern, then the sky from horizon to
zenith, and then back to the horizon from bow to stern. Again and again,
and then a pause to rest our eyes and chat for a few minutes. I asked
Ensign Ball to call for some hot coffee. As he bent over the 1MC, I turned,”
William Cooper • 19
“raising my binoculars to my eyes just in time to see a huge disk rise from
beneath the ocean, water streaming from the air around it, tumble lazily on
its axis, and disappear into the clouds. My heart beat wildly. I tried to talk
but couldn't; then I changed my mind and decided I didn't want to say
that, anyway. I had seen a flying saucer the size of an aircraft carrier come
right out of the ocean and fly into the clouds. I looked around quickly to
see if anyone else had seen it. Ensign Ball was still bending over the IMC.
He was ordering coffee. Geronimo was looking down the starboard side
aft.
I was torn between my duty to report what I had seen and the knowl-
edge that if I did no one would believe me. As I looked out over the ocean
I saw only sky, clouds, and water.
It was as if nothing had happened. I almost thought I had dreamed it.
Ensign Ball straightened, turned toward Geronimo and said the coffee was
on the way up.
I looked back toward the spot, about 15 degrees relative off the port
bow, and about 2-1/2 nautical miles distant. Nothing, not even a hint of
what had happened. "Ensign Ball," I said, "I thought I saw something
about 15 degrees relative off the bow, but I lost it. Can you help me look
over that area?" Ensign Ball turned, raising his glasses to eye level. I didn't
know it at the time, but Geronimo had heard me and turned to look. He
was happy that something had broken the monotony.
I was just lifting the binoculars off my chest when I saw it. The giant
saucer shape plunged out of the clouds, tumbled, and, pushing the water
before it, opened up a hole in the ocean and disappeared from view. It was
incredible. This time I had seen it with my naked eyes, and its size in
comparison with the total view was nothing short of astounding. Ensign
Hall stood in shock, his binoculars in his hands, his mouth open. Geronimo
yelled, "Holy shit! What the — hey! did you guys see that?" Ensign Ball
turned, and looking right at me with the most incredulous look on his face,
said in a low voice, "This had to happen on my watch!" He turned, quickly
pressing the override on the IMC and yelled, "Captain to the bridge,
Captain to the bridge." As an afterthought he pressed the switch again and
yelled, "Somebody get a camera up here."
The Captain surged up the ladder with the quartermaster on his heels.
Chief Quartermaster Quintero had the ship's 35-mm camera slung around
his neck. The Captain stood patiently while Ensign Ball tried to describe
what he had seen. He glanced at us and we both nodded in affirmation.
That was enough for the Captain. He called sonar, who during the excite-
ment had reported contact underwater at the same bearing. The Captain
announced into the 1MC, "This is the Captain. I have the conn." The reply”
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“came back instantly from the helm, "Aye, Aye sir." I knew that the helms-
man was passing the word in the control room that the Captain had
personally taken control of the boat. I also knew that rumors were probab-
ly flying through the vessel.
The Captain called down and ordered someone to closely monitor the
radar. His command was instantly acknowledged. As the five of us stood
gazing out over the sea the same ship or one exactly like it rose slowly,
turned in the air, tilted at an angle and then vanished. I saw the Chief
snapping pictures out of the corner of my eye.
This time I had three images from which to draw conclusions. It was
a metal machine, of that there was no doubt whatsoever. It was intelligent-
ly controlled, of that I was equally sure. It was a dull color, kind of like
pewter. There were no lights. There was no glow. I thought I had seen a
row of what looked like portholes, but could not be certain. Radar reported
contact at the same bearing and gave us a range of 3 nautical miles. The
range was right on, as the craft had moved toward the general direction
that we were headed. We watched repeatedly as the strange craft reentered
the water and then subsequently rose into the clouds over and over again
until finally we knew that it was gone for good. The episode lasted about
10 minutes.
Before leaving the bridge the Captain took the camera from the Chief
and instructed each of us not to talk to anyone about what we had seen. He
told us the incident was classified and we were not to discuss it, not even
amongst ourselves. We acknowledged his order. The Captain and the
Chief left the bridge. Ensign Ball stepped to the 1MC and, pressing the
override switch, announced, "This is Ensign Ball. The Captain has left the
bridge. I have the conn." The reply, "Aye aye sir," quickly followed.
Those of us who had witnessed the UFO were not allowed to go
ashore after we had berthed in Pearl. Even those of us who didn't have the
duty were told we had to stay aboard. After about two hours a commander
from the Office of Naval Intelligence boarded. He went directly to the
Captain's stateroom. It wasn't long before we were called to wait in the
passageway outside the Captain's door. Ensign Ball was called first. After
about 10 minutes he came out and went into the wardroom. He looked
shaken. I was next.
When I entered the stateroom, the Commander was holding my ser-
vice record in his hands. He wanted to know why I had gone from the Air
Force into the Navy. I told him the whole story and he laughed when I said
that after putting off the Navy for fear of chronic seasickness, I hadn't been
seasick yet. Suddenly a mask dropped over his face, and looking me
directly in the eyes he asked, "What did you see out there?"
William Cooper • 21
"I believe it was a flying saucer, sir," I answered.
The man began to visibly shake and he screamed obscenities at me.
He threatened to put me in the brig for the rest of my life. I thought he
wasn't going to stop yelling, but as suddenly as he began, he stopped.
I was confused. I had answered his question truthfully; yet I was
threatened with prison. I was not afraid, but I was not very confident,
either. I figured I had better take another tack. Eighteen years with my
father and four years in the Air Force had taught me something. Number
one was that officers just do not lose control like that, ever. Number two
was that if my answer had elicited that explosion, then the next thing out of
my mouth had better be something entirely different. Number three was,
that his response had been an act of kindness to get me to arrive at exactly
that conclusion.
"Let's start all over again," he said. "What did you see out there?"
"Nothing, sir," I answered. "I didn't see a damn thing, and I'd like to
get out of here just as soon as possible."
A smile spread over his face and the Captain looked relieved. "Are
you sure, Cooper?" he asked.
"Yes sir," I replied, "I'm sure."
"You're a good sailor, Cooper," he said. 'The Navy needs men like
You'll go far with the Navy." He then asked me to read several pieces
of paper that all said the same thing only with different words. I read that
if I ever talked about what it was that I didn't see, I could be fined up to
$10,000 and imprisoned for up to 10 years or both. In addition I could lose
all pay and allowances due or ever to become due. He asked me to sign a
piece of paper stating that I understood the laws and regulations that I had
just read governing the safeguard of classified information relating to the
national security. By signing, I agreed never to communicate in any man-
ner any information regarding the incident with anyone. I was dismissed,
and boy, was I glad to get out of there.
Not long after that incident I devolunteered from submarines. I was
transferred to the USS Tombigbee (AOG-11).”
END OF QUOTE
I will say in regards to the video (1971) above it’s very close to the same time period of William
Cooper’s sometime after 1965. The video’s pictures appear to be about the same type of both under
water and flying craft that William Cooper witnessed “a flying saucer the size of an aircraft carrier”.
It’s of my opinion that these craft from this video and William Cooper’s are of ET origins or maybe
even that they are part of this world but have been hidden all of this time since the time of the Enki or
Enlil.
In other words, they are the dark hidden powers behind the scenes.
As far as your statement that the U.S. Navy has develop similar craft, it doesn’t surprise me. What
they have may have been given to them from ET’s or Enki/Enlil or they have reverse engineered such
from ones that they have captured or shot down or from a crash scene.
From a quick search, I could only come up with a couple of links to try to back up your statements.
With that said, I will leave it for now, to let others to try find more evidence to present.
Tic Tac UFO is a US Navy project - Prof Simon