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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Apr 13, 2020 12:21:06 GMT
Chiron has been silent for almost 2 years and then posted something yesterday.
After watching his new video I was drawn to his second last video which by 'co-incidence' also touches upon words like quarantine...
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Post by Stranger2 on Apr 13, 2020 19:32:30 GMT
Thanks, interesting, good overall. There are some flaws in his view though. Diversity does not mean separation, it does not break the unity, it only breaks uniformity. Silence (formless state) is not the only alternative to dualistic perception, separation and positive-negative polarities. There can be a non-dualistic states of forms without silence but without dualistic polarities and dualistic perception either.
For example, our conscious phenomena (thoughts, perceptions) are in fact never separate from our consciousness, they are simply the forms of consciousness. So, manifestation of phenomena in our consciousness does not break the unity of consciousness, but it does break the uniformity (singularity) of the formless state (of the complete silence). It is only when we believe that the mental phenomena represent some separate independently existing objects, then the (seeming) separation happens. This separation in still only seeming and not real, because that false belief itself is only just another mental phenomena (thought). So, the bottom-line is: we do not need to go to the state of singularity (formless uniformity) to reach the state of non-duality. In fact, we have never ever parted from the state of non-duality. Manifestation of forms does not ever break the unity of consciousness.
So, to say that "God" needed to "split" itself to experience the opposites is not true. Consciousness can have a variety of experiences of a variety of forms in a non-dualistic way without parting from the state of non-duality. It is only believing in separation that creates the faulty dualistic perception. When the basic thought "I am" occurs in consciousness, and a belief is formed that "I" is something real and separate from the rest of reality, then it becomes the root of the dualistic perception and of manifestation of the dualistic worlds. However, when there is clear understanding that "I am" is only a thought-form existing in an indivisible consciousness and "I" has no independent existence, then the dualistic perception does not develop, although any forms can still be manifested and experienced.
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Post by IW on Apr 14, 2020 2:56:15 GMT
Completely agree with you stranger!
I have watched and rewatched every video put out by Chironlast and I feel what you said is the main error implied in his messages. Diversity does not mean separation, it does not break the unity only the uniformity. We with free will and free choice CAN choose to separate, but it is not inherent by differences alone.
This is the meaning of FAMILY, which is one of the things JVP introduces. By divine M/F (not God, or the god/gods of this world that rule) we are their children meaning we are part of the family. But free will and choice can lead to separation, as children don't always follow in their parents ways.
This is a choice sometimes by rebellion and sometimes by naivety/ and willful ignorance. Either way here we are IN a duality system that feeds off false beliefs, which manifests into a neverending web of confusion. See a House Divided by Chiron in the Chironlast thread. Excellent symbolism especially the last 5 minutes. All of his videos are great imo.
Best wishes.
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