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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 8:47:41 GMT
I am sharing this video because I am currently highly questioning the veracity of the Corona Virus. From the outbreak in China, I already assumed (as probably many of you have) that there is one or more agendas behind this virus. But my question now is whether the virus is real and if not, what might it be linked to.
A Belgian doctor Kris Van Kerckhoven has been protesting in Belgium against the roll out of 5G, pointing to international studies and scientific evidence that show that the radiation of this wireless technology is harmful for humanity and that certain diseases are the result of exposure to the radiation. He also doesn’t exlude a possible link between the Corona Virus and the immense 5G implementation in and around the region in Wuhan. Fact is that the virus broke out in Wuhan and that since February 26, 2019 +/- 100 5G towers have been built in and around Wuhan. His article was published by one of our mainstream newspapers, but was withdrawn the same day.
The video clearly shows that the symptoms from Corona can ultimately be the result from 5G radiation exposure. In Belgium the virus broke out exactly one day after the end of the holiday season, when thousands of people came back from their ski holiday in Northern Italy. Italy has also been a country where 5G has been implemented on a large scale over the last year, especially in 2019. Now, there are of course people that never travelled and who are also infected and in Belgium we even have 3 deaths (all of them old people) as a result of the “Corona Virus”. Maybe, just maybe, these people were just infected by the common flu virus? Moreover, I clearly remember the initital news reporting about the break out in Italy, where the Italian government was worried and speechless, because of the initial infected ones, nobody had travelled to China.
Could it be that the elite is trying to cover up the effects of 5G radiation, by fabricating a so-called pandemic?
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Post by Henrik on Mar 12, 2020 15:30:49 GMT
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Post by wornout on Mar 12, 2020 17:19:06 GMT
Yep, it appears that it may be a cover-up…considering stories like these just came out.
“ Kentucky's Berea College among US universities canceling class in coronavirus precautions”
www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2020/03/10/coronavirus-updates-universities-cancel-class-heres-what-kentucky-colleges-are-doing/5008963002/#
This story really hit home with me since my mother is from Kentucky and I’ve been in that town 2-3 times in my life, due to her.
Now from this story is this, “Colleges around the country are canceling in-person classes, at least temporarily, due to the coronavirus situation — and so is Berea College in the state of Kentucky, where eight cases of COVID-19 have been confirmed publicly so far.”
Hey, there is only 8 people in the whole state of Kentucky and they are shutting down the college! Talk about the “drama” and this is happening across the country.
This doesn’t surprise me. In considering, colleges and universities are usually in major cities which the people and students are always being forced fed, “that for the good of everyone”, we have to have this high tech 5G or higher. so the system will work better for the sake of the community at large.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 19:34:45 GMT
I doubt it. Sure two things may have a correlation of sorts but directly one influencing the other wouldn't make much sense.
Of course there are theories that this came from the usa etc. It is uncertain where this virus originated from maybe food or dirtyness in china.
Corona virus is a flu virus of sorts. The world health organisation if anything has been the one covering up stuff. It recieves funding from china and has therefore been doing what china expects it to. Been praising the actions of china when they have been clearly covering up stuff and causing "human rights" abuses. Of course all this closing down is heavily impacting everything the economy, how we work, play etc. So very important and questioning the narrative is to. People are going to depend a lot on the internet while stuck at home.
With 5g the one thing i can think of is that china huawei is trying to get into that buisness. So they are surely building a lot of towers. They are also buying their way into parts of africa and funding surveillance cameras and authoritan states. And generally in many countries finding ways in.
That isn't to say other countries are the good guys but china with their communist party is very scary I think. 5g is being implemented everywhere. There isn't much difference between the other g but it does use a different wavelength and requires more antennas cos it doesn't travel as well. I do think it is unhealthy to live near a mast of sorts and there is some cover up of sorts.
But getting paranoid doesn't help. And there is a lot of misinformation on devices that can protect you. It is possible to gain immunity to these effects though.
We should be worried about the general unhealthy lifestyle of the cities. The pollution, the drugs, the damage done to nature. And the fact that a blind eye is turned to it. Also generally just other people that are harmful to yourself. There are many stresses in the environment to be aware of.
This video comparing the response of china to taiwan is good.
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Post by wornout on Mar 12, 2020 22:25:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 22:35:41 GMT
And similarly, what usually get called ES effects (generally the 'attack ES' category) are all a product of one's internal response to the particular external factor, which would depend on what emotional issues one is carrying, plus what garbage (aka 'dark force', 'forces of darkness', 'forces of evil') interferences one has in place, plus particular genetic configurations that can indirectly affect susceptibility. This helps explain nicely why people vary hugely in their susceptibility to such effects." From philip g More in my last post and more discussion tribunilapulapu.freeforums.net/thread/555/5g-futureI don't believe this is the same kind of radiation sickness as there is no penetration of the same sort that other forms of radiation have.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2020 10:50:55 GMT
There is much to be said about the recent Coronavirus “epidemic” and the origin of the virus - if it's man-made, a bio-weapon, related to 5G, or just a "natural" mutation - or if there even is a virus, to begin with. We all have different perspectives, though I was just thinking of the 5G connection as a possibility, not yet a definite confirmation to me.
What is very clear to me is that this Coronavirus “epidemic” is a fear program. On a basic level, they want to lower the frequency of the collective by instilling fear by any means. The fear virus in the environmental/collective consciousness is more contagious than any disease-virus. Fear weakens the aura/protective shield (on a metaphysical level) which negatively affects the immune system on a physical level, making one more susceptible to any disease/virus, even just the common flu/cold. Fear makes people act irrational, and then they are easier controlled, willingly giving up freedom, rights, etc. It activates the reptilian brain of pure physical survival instinct. It's easier to mind control people when they are in a state of fear. People then also start to police each other and keep each other in check. They can even become afraid of each other because of fear of getting infected. They turn into authoritarian followers to the extreme, following all orders, laws, and rules without questioning (most people anyway). They may also want to trigger a social/economic "meltdown", "shortage", and travel restrictions to keep "people in check" and then appear as the "saviors" to bring the "cure" (i.e. vaccine), create new systems, regulations, and laws they've been waiting to implement anyway but needed a "reason" to do so. In short, it's the Hegelian dialect of Problem-Action-Solution.
If you look at the timeline since Y2K, you can see a lot of fear programs of things that would kill us all: 1999/2000: Y2K, 2001: Anthrax, 2003 SARS, 2005 Bird Flu, etc. The hidden forces feed off fear emanating from humans. The fear frequency acts as entry points for this interference and hence people are easilier controlled via ego driven thoughts (what-ifs) and emotional manipulation. All this happens outside any conscious awareness. So what we need to do when you sense fear is creeping in: reject it from your consciousness, litterarlly don’t believe any thoughts of fear or worry (they are not your thoughts anyway). This is the most important protection, regardless if the virus is real or not or whatever the agenda is. Their goal is to get you into a state of fear first and foremost.
I had to remind myself of this, because I was day in day out obsessed with finding information about the virus. This will become counterproductive in the long term. It’s not about denial and living in a bubble of positivity. Stay aware “objectively” and informed to a degree without feeding it emotionally and then act accordingly, calmly with your intuition, discernment and reason intact. I like what Tom Montalk had to say about this:
“The fear propaganda is an old trick to push 3D solutions to 3D problems while propagating hidden 4D attacks. Often the spiritual/occult damage from the 'solution' is worse than the physical problem itself. One thing I discovered regarding illnesses is that, besides fear drawing it in, anything that programs the subconscious will do so. For example, several times now I've gotten sick after looking at a photo of a virus and innocently dwelling on it in a daydreaming kind of way. The alpha brainwave is very suggestible that way. It's like a hypnotic command. Or similarly, thinking to myself "Gee, haven't had the flu/injury/accident in a while, that's great!" - then it happens. Why...? Well I'm momentarily thinking "flu", dwell on it in an alpha state, have a positive emotion of "great!" and then forget all about it and go about my day. That's the exact formula Manifesting/Secret/YCYOR (You Create Your Own Reality) people use. Occultists say it creates a thought-form that manifests into physical reality. Psychologists would say it's a form of autosuggestion. Either way, it shows that fear isn't the only thing that can draw something in. Another is saturation… If you're reading coronavirus news and forums virtually every hour of your waking life, you're saturating your mind with that and plugging into the energy field of others doing likewise, and the whole thing starts unnecessarily bleeding over into your personal corner of reality. Same with getting obsessed with aliens, demons, gang-stalking, etc. Ironically, the feeling of vulnerability from not being prepared can draw something in if the fear takes on a life of its own (literally), while the peace of mind from having basic security in place can attract more peace and security. And lastly, another opening can come from severe stress/deep emotional wounds that lead to symbolic illness. If I recall correctly, Rudolf Steiner said that, tuberculosis epidemics can be brought on by mass resentment by lower classes against the higher… Solution isn't denial, but being informed enough to take rational action while, on the energetic/subconscious front, staying focused on ideals like peace, wellness, and empowerment."
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Post by wornout on Mar 13, 2020 13:42:27 GMT
Keep it Simple, Love casts out fear!!!!
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Post by Stranger2 on Mar 13, 2020 14:50:30 GMT
Solution isn't denial, but being informed enough to take rational action while, on the energetic/subconscious front, staying focused on ideals like peace, wellness, and empowerment." Yes, that's one solution: play the game positively rather than negatively (as long as you can). But you can only do it to a certain degree because the game is a package deal, you can't short-cut it, avoid its swings and only get positive without negative. No matter how determined you are to stay on the positive side, the negative will eventually get you. There is no free lunch, that's the rules of the game. But there is another solution: disengage from the game, both its negative and positive swings. Let it run and push buttons when needed but keep you consciousness not involved and free. These are just pictures on a 3D screen of your consciousness, why care? If you play a computer game and see viruses there, you would get scared only if you take the game for real and strongly identify with your game character. If you don't take it for real and don't self-identify, you wouldn't get scared at all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2020 8:43:48 GMT
Solution isn't denial, but being informed enough to take rational action while, on the energetic/subconscious front, staying focused on ideals like peace, wellness, and empowerment." Yes, that's one solution: play the game positively rather than negatively (as long as you can). But you can only do it to a certain degree because the game is a package deal, you can't short-cut it, avoid its swings and only get positive without negative. No matter how determined you are to stay on the positive side, the negative will eventually get you. There is no free lunch, that's the rules of the game. But there is another solution: disengage from the game, both its negative and positive swings. Let it run and push buttons when needed but keep you consciousness not involved and free. These are just pictures on a 3D screen of your consciousness, why care? If you play a computer game and see viruses there, you would get scared only if you take the game for real and strongly identify with your game character. If you don't take it for real and don't self-identify, you wouldn't get scared at all. "Why care?" I agree that we need to disengage from the game. But I don't see how letting it push your buttons will help you disengage from the game. That is why it is so important to do the necessary work to help yourself in preventing that your buttons are being pushed. Why would we care? I allow myself to quote Endall Beall right here to give you my answer: "You don’t know where you’re going until you know where you have been, and at the present time, humanity doesn’t know where it has been except through what they are told by people with an agenda to hide the truth and who have rewritten history to fulfill their own dark agenda of cognitive tyranny over human consciousness." If we don't know what has really happened in human history, how can we ultimately build a new paradigm and create things based on what we know and don't want anymore? I remind you of how you yourself are investigating into the soul capturing system and try to find the truth for yourself, so I don't understand why you then suddenly write that we shouldn't care at all, because it's just a game? What I wrote has nothing to do with staying on the positive side. I think I clearly wrote that. My post was about what to do, preventing fear starts controlling you. That is something entirely else.
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Post by Stranger2 on Mar 14, 2020 18:15:15 GMT
"Why care?" I agree that we need to disengage from the game. But I don't see how letting it push your buttons will help you disengage from the game. That is why it is so important to do the necessary work to help yourself in preventing that your buttons are being pushed. Why would we care? I allow myself to quote Endall Beall right here to give you my answer: "You don’t know where you’re going until you know where you have been, and at the present time, humanity doesn’t know where it has been except through what they are told by people with an agenda to hide the truth and who have rewritten history to fulfill their own dark agenda of cognitive tyranny over human consciousness." If we don't know what has really happened in human history, how can we ultimately build a new paradigm and create things based on what we know and don't want anymore? I remind you of how you yourself are investigating into the soul capturing system and try to find the truth for yourself, so I don't understand why you then suddenly write that we shouldn't care at all, because it's just a game? What I wrote has nothing to do with staying on the positive side. I think I clearly wrote that. My post was about what to do, preventing fear starts controlling you. That is something entirely else. By "pushing buttons" I meant that, because we are still in the game, we still need to function (work, make food, communicate), or, you can say, "pretend to function". By "not caring" I meant not to be involved in the obsession about the game, not to be addicted to its fictitious goals and thrills. Because we are still in the game, we have to deal with it, to care about our relations with it and about ways to be liberated from it. Of course, studying the history and understanding how the game is built and works can only help us to be liberated from it and to be less controlled by it. Sorry if I misunderstood you.
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Post by wornout on Mar 15, 2020 17:43:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 0:45:04 GMT
I did a local inquiry of 5G antennas here in The Austin, Texas area and there are 2 down in Austin. The closest to me is about a 20 minute drive. Funny the only positive Corona cases are both in Austin. The link provided above by wornout from American scientific is concerning. That is not a conspiracy leaning publication and they are quite concerned about the damaging effects of 5G millimeter waves that will operate in conjunction with 4G waves. Few even know how damaging 4G is in the long term.
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Post by wornout on Mar 16, 2020 15:06:22 GMT
I just ran across this article in Scientific American. www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-to-the-new-coronavirus1/?utm_source=pocket-newtabHere are some pertinent quotes: “Her studies had shown that the southern, subtropical areas of Guangdong, Guangxi and Yunnan have the greatest risk of coronaviruses jumping to humans from animals—particularly bats, a known reservoir for many viruses. If coronaviruses were the culprit, she remembers thinking, “could they have come from our lab?” “Coronavirues were mostly known for causing common colds. “The SARS outbreak was a game changer,” says Wang, whose work on bat-borne coronaviruses got a swift mention in the 2011 Hollywood blockbuster Contagion. It was the first time a deadly coronavirus with pandemic potential emerged. This discovery helped to jump-start a global search for animal viruses that could find their way into humans.”
“With growing human populations increasingly encroaching on wildlife habitats, with unprecedented changes in land use, with wildlife and livestock transported across countries and their products around the world, and with a sharp increase in both domestic and international travel, new disease outbreaks of pandemic scale are a near mathematical certainty.”
“Meanwhile she frantically went through her own laboratory’s records from the past few years to check for any mishandling of experimental materials, especially during disposal. Shi breathed a sigh of relief when the results came back: none of the sequences matched those of the viruses her team had sampled from bat caves.”
“The genomic sequence of the virus—now officially called SARS-CoV-2 because it is related to the SARS pathogen—was 96 percent identical to that of a coronavirus the researchers had identified in horseshoe bats in Yunnan, they reported in a paper published last month in Nature. “It’s crystal clear that bats, once again, are the natural reservoir,” says Daszak, who was not involved in the study.”
“Given that the virus seems fairly stable and that many infected individuals appear to have mild symptoms, scientists suspect the pathogen might have been around for weeks or even months before the first severe cases raised alarm.”
“To many, the region’s burgeoning wildlife markets—which sell a wide range of animals such as bats, civets, pangolins, badgers and crocodiles—are perfect viral melting pots. Although humans could have caught the deadly virus from bats directly (according to several studies, including those by Shi and her colleagues), independent teams have suggested in preprint studies that pangolins may have been an intermediate host. These teams have reportedly uncovered SARS-CoV-2–like coronaviruses in these animals, which were seized in antismuggling operations in southern China.”
“On February 24 the nation announced a permanent ban on wildlife consumption and trade except for research or medicinal or display purposes—which will stamp out an industry worth $76 billion and put approximately 14 million people out of jobs,”
“Although the Wuhan outbreak is the sixth one caused by bat-borne viruses in the past 26 years —the other five being Hendra in 1994, Nipah in 1998, SARS in 2002, MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome) in 2012, and Ebola in 2014—“the animals [themselves] are not the problem,” Wang says. In fact, bats help promote biodiversity and the health of their ecosystems by eating insects and pollinating plants. “The problem arises when we get in contact with them,” he says.”
“In the long run, the team plans to develop broad-spectrum vaccines and drugs against coronaviruses deemed risky to humans. “The Wuhan outbreak is a wake-up call,” Shi says.”
“In recent decades, Daszak and his colleagues analyzed approximately 500 human infectious diseases from the past century. They found that the emergence of new pathogens tended to happen in places where a dense population had been changing the landscape—by building roads and mines, cutting down forests and intensifying agriculture. “China is not the only hotspot,” he says, noting that other major emerging economies, such as India, Nigeria and Brazil, are also at great risk.”
“Daszak’s team has estimated that there are as many as 5,000 coronavirus strains waiting to be discovered in bats globally.”
“Bat-borne coronaviruses will cause more outbreaks,” she says with a tone of brooding certainty. “We must find them before they find us.”
After digesting this, I do believe that this article is going to be used to further the agenda of mandatory vaccinations. This is the end result after people are scared out of their wits, even though a natural born disease was transmitted by handling bats and the people may have not become sick right away. But after exposure to the roll out of 5G, their immune systems were very greatly weakened and they became sick from the coronavirus and 5G radiation!
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Post by wornout on Mar 17, 2020 13:41:28 GMT
Well it is happening! Scared ignorant people being used as lab rats!
"First Person Injected With Trial Coronavirus Vaccine In Seattle"
"The first person to get the vaccine was 43-year old Jennifer Haller from Seattle who said; “I hope that we get to a working vaccine quickly and that we can save lives and people can go back to life as soon as possible,” in an interview with TIME."
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Post by Stranger2 on Mar 17, 2020 14:55:27 GMT
Well, what do we expect? We have been spoiled with safe and prosperous life in the Western part of the world for decades and that is not how life in this Matrix is supposed to work. Look at the previous centuries: 120 million died in wars, 40 million in Stalin concentration camps and out of starvation in Ukraine, and 50 million died during the Spanish flu outbreak just in the 20th century. Those who have too much dependence and expectations and rely too much on the fictitious safety and happiness of life in this Matrix will inevitably suffer. Be a stranger here.
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Post by wornout on Mar 17, 2020 16:11:16 GMT
I' m a sufferer from the first swine flu vaccine, because in trusting the system too much in my younger years.
Articles like these really make you wonder just how long this has been going on.
I haven't taken a vaccine shot ever since.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 6:53:00 GMT
There is much to be said about the recent Coronavirus “epidemic” and the origin of the virus - if it's man-made, a bio-weapon, related to 5G, or just a "natural" mutation - or if there even is a virus, to begin with. We all have different perspectives, though I was just thinking of the 5G connection as a possibility, not yet a definite confirmation to me. What is very clear to me is that this Coronavirus “epidemic” is a fear program. On a basic level, they want to lower the frequency of the collective by instilling fear by any means. The fear virus in the environmental/collective consciousness is more contagious than any disease-virus. Fear weakens the aura/protective shield (on a metaphysical level) which negatively affects the immune system on a physical level, making one more susceptible to any disease/virus, even just the common flu/cold. Fear makes people act irrational, and then they are easier controlled, willingly giving up freedom, rights, etc. It activates the reptilian brain of pure physical survival instinct. It's easier to mind control people when they are in a state of fear. People then also start to police each other and keep each other in check. They can even become afraid of each other because of fear of getting infected. They turn into authoritarian followers to the extreme, following all orders, laws, and rules without questioning (most people anyway). They may also want to trigger a social/economic "meltdown", "shortage", and travel restrictions to keep "people in check" and then appear as the "saviors" to bring the "cure" (i.e. vaccine), create new systems, regulations, and laws they've been waiting to implement anyway but needed a "reason" to do so. In short, it's the Hegelian dialect of Problem-Action-Solution. If you look at the timeline since Y2K, you can see a lot of fear programs of things that would kill us all: 1999/2000: Y2K, 2001: Anthrax, 2003 SARS, 2005 Bird Flu, etc. The hidden forces feed off fear emanating from humans. The fear frequency acts as entry points for this interference and hence people are easilier controlled via ego driven thoughts (what-ifs) and emotional manipulation. All this happens outside any conscious awareness. So what we need to do when you sense fear is creeping in: reject it from your consciousness, litterarlly don’t believe any thoughts of fear or worry (they are not your thoughts anyway). This is the most important protection, regardless if the virus is real or not or whatever the agenda is. Their goal is to get you into a state of fear first and foremost. I had to remind myself of this, because I was day in day out obsessed with finding information about the virus. This will become counterproductive in the long term. It’s not about denial and living in a bubble of positivity. Stay aware “objectively” and informed to a degree without feeding it emotionally and then act accordingly, calmly with your intuition, discernment and reason intact. I like what Tom Montalk had to say about this: “The fear propaganda is an old trick to push 3D solutions to 3D problems while propagating hidden 4D attacks. Often the spiritual/occult damage from the 'solution' is worse than the physical problem itself. One thing I discovered regarding illnesses is that, besides fear drawing it in, anything that programs the subconscious will do so. For example, several times now I've gotten sick after looking at a photo of a virus and innocently dwelling on it in a daydreaming kind of way. The alpha brainwave is very suggestible that way. It's like a hypnotic command. Or similarly, thinking to myself "Gee, haven't had the flu/injury/accident in a while, that's great!" - then it happens. Why...? Well I'm momentarily thinking "flu", dwell on it in an alpha state, have a positive emotion of "great!" and then forget all about it and go about my day. That's the exact formula Manifesting/Secret/YCYOR (You Create Your Own Reality) people use. Occultists say it creates a thought-form that manifests into physical reality. Psychologists would say it's a form of autosuggestion. Either way, it shows that fear isn't the only thing that can draw something in. Another is saturation… If you're reading coronavirus news and forums virtually every hour of your waking life, you're saturating your mind with that and plugging into the energy field of others doing likewise, and the whole thing starts unnecessarily bleeding over into your personal corner of reality. Same with getting obsessed with aliens, demons, gang-stalking, etc. Ironically, the feeling of vulnerability from not being prepared can draw something in if the fear takes on a life of its own (literally), while the peace of mind from having basic security in place can attract more peace and security. And lastly, another opening can come from severe stress/deep emotional wounds that lead to symbolic illness. If I recall correctly, Rudolf Steiner said that, tuberculosis epidemics can be brought on by mass resentment by lower classes against the higher… Solution isn't denial, but being informed enough to take rational action while, on the energetic/subconscious front, staying focused on ideals like peace, wellness, and empowerment." The whole y2k scare was overeaction yeah. Fearful tactics are being used and fear is not good for sure. But on the other side there are still people not caring about it at all, and yes this is correlated with further disease spread. When people didn't stop going to restaurants here, the disease continued to spread at the rate it did. Now lockdown is being threatened. You can also see there is disease on the lose of sorts because see the correlation from people who come back from certain countries or even regions, the spread from person to person. That doesn't seem anything like a radiation effect or faking. Not to be fearful but protect yourself so other more vulnerable people are less likely to get it or jus slow the spread at least. There are another group of people preppers who are oh so excited because they have been preparing for so long whatever. The garbage (forces of darkness) is also a virus like thing. Fear and not knowing it's existence is part of what keeps it going as well as it programming for continued existence. It is entrenched in a network like structure using people as like a botnet. As well as using lost "souls" and elementals. If you get this corona virus it is probably gonna be just okay unless you are old with prexisting issues and even so fear won't help. So totally keep away from fear. Another note the paranoia mindset about 5g is quite unhealthy and is similar to the paranoia with aliens etc. I get very bad vibes from this. A lot of this involves pseudo science etc. Environmental stress effects are more subtle generally but magnified by the existence of the garbage in many people. By taking a certain stance to it you only empower it more.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2020 12:20:41 GMT
Just for fyi people have been burning down 5g masts. www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/technology-52172570Also www.bbc.co.uk/news/52168096""The idea that 5G lowers your immune system doesn't stand up to scrutiny," Dr Clarke says. 'Your immune system can be dipped by all sorts of thing - by being tired one day, or not having a good diet. Those fluctuations aren't huge but can make you more susceptible to catching viruses. "Radio waves can disrupt your physiology as they heat you up, meaning your immune system can't function. But 5G radio waves are tiny and they are nowhere near strong enough to affect the immune system. There have been lots of studies on this." It's also important to note another major flaw with the conspiracy theories - coronavirus is spreading in UK cities where 5G has yet to be deployed, and in countries like Iran that have yet to roll out the technology.'
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2020 13:30:53 GMT
It's also important to note another major flaw with the conspiracy theories - coronavirus is spreading in UK cities where 5G has yet to be deployed, and in countries like Iran that have yet to roll out the technology.' Even when it should appear that 5G is not dangerous (though there are quite some doctors and scientists pointing out to the dangers), then this argument doesn't take into account the 50.000 5G sattelites in the atmosphere, which may impact the worldwide population.
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Post by Stranger2 on Apr 5, 2020 16:35:14 GMT
Radiation from satellites, even from focused beams, is too weak compared to radiation from local base stations.
Radiation from both 2G and 5G definitely adds to overall pollution, including chemical and electromagnetic, weakening our immune system. However, being only 2 times higher in frequency compared to 2G, 5G can not make such dramatic impact as to cause a disease of the coronavirus scale. But in spite of the growing pollution, the average life expectancy of population in developed countries was growing over the last decades. Coronavirus is definitely real, my neighbor is a virusologist, he sees it under the microscope and can watch how it attacks the cells.
I think it is more useful to observe and understand how our egoic mind overreacts in fear and anxiety at the times of crises like this, and how it tends to fall into various paranoid states, conspiracy theories, hate and wars and so on. Times like this trigger the basic survival mechanisms of our egoic minds and turn human population into mass-scale states of irrational madness (not to deny that the majority of the population lives in the states of madness even during normal times...). But it is also a great opportunity for some of us to recognize, understand and transcend it. When we suffer more, we tend to seek the root cause of our suffering. But the egoic mind always seeks the root causes of its suffering everywhere else but in itself, it blames everything and everyone else other than itself for the troubles, from governments, businesses, elite and secret organizations, to neighbors and family members. If we do that, it is guaranteed that our suffering and confusion will only prolong. But if we turn inside to see if the deepest root of our suffering is actually in our own mind, then we will have a chance to recognize it and eventually may be even transcend it. Which root is simply our egoic mind and a distorted way in which it perceives the reality.
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Post by wornout on Apr 5, 2020 18:38:05 GMT
I'm sorry Stranger2,
But these recent experiences and ongoing ones of my daughter and I are not due to our our egoic minds overreacting in fear and anxiety. This is the reality of it all and we're not looking for scapegoats to point our fingers at and blame it all upon them. We each have our weaknesses, but the ones in power always play upon them and always try to create new ways to control us for their benefit and not for the people. This is a historical fact.
From my "Michigan USA - Disaster, Good, the Crazy and the Wacky News" Mar 28, 2020 at 10:26pm Thread:
"Wacky health update: I said recently, “Both my daughter and I have been experiencing for some time now, but it has become more intense of late, a ringing in the ears and pressure inside the ears and head and this is not air pressure changes. I’ve been experiencing this for years but this is the worst that it has ever been. This is one of the reasons that I suffer from the lack of sleep (for years now). I do believe that this is results from 4G, 5G, smartmeters , etc.” Well, it is EVEN MORE INTENSE NOW, even as I’m forcing myself to type & paste this together. It’s even effecting my missing teeth in my mouth along with increasing the pain in my spleen which I’ve been dealing with since the damn swine flu vaccine of 76. And it’s causing pains to come back in my daughters left ovary & causing her to become nauseated. I’m just listing a few for the both of us there is much more. This is not a cold virus, flu or whatever that they use as a cover. It could be very well a directed energy weapon piped in through the whole 4G 5G smartmeter networks all to make us sick This thing comes in like waves of energy with like an up and down cycle over different lengths of time all depending how much they turn the dial up or down I believe that they wanted us kept inside so that more people are contained in smaller spaces so that they are more affected by these negative waves of energy because they are stationary and not mobile."
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Post by Rick63 on May 10, 2020 17:58:33 GMT
I did a local inquiry of 5G antennas here in The Austin, Texas area and there are 2 down in Austin. The closest to me is about a 20 minute drive. Funny the only positive Corona cases are both in Austin. The link provided above by wornout from American scientific is concerning. That is not a conspiracy leaning publication and they are quite concerned about the damaging effects of 5G millimeter waves that will operate in conjunction with 4G waves. Few even know how damaging 4G is in the long term. I agree 4G is damaging as is 3G for that matter. All em is pollution so limited our exposure will have to become second nature if humanity can survive. I wonder if living underground can help? Also, having an RF meter to measure your em-environment at all times might be a smart thing to do. Not using smart phones would be another tactic. Use hard wired connections as much as possible.
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