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Post by ML on Oct 9, 2019 23:57:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 1:56:47 GMT
I registered about 10 days ago but as of yet have not commented. I'm just not clicking with him like I use to. Evolution
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Post by ML on Oct 10, 2019 2:22:07 GMT
I registered about 10 days ago but as of yet have not commented. I'm just not clicking with him like I use to. Evolution I saw gs there minutes ago. It will be interesting to see your posts there Myka. haha
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Post by MaryLee63 on Nov 6, 2019 4:37:43 GMT
I just emailed questionaire form to John for access to his new forum 2 days ago. How long does it generally take to hear back?
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Post by IW on Nov 6, 2019 5:25:57 GMT
Hello MaryLee63. There is no saying how long it could be. It is a closed forum, but if you sent an application/questionaire, I'm not sure why they would not have at least given you a probationary acceptance already.
Hopefully a non-response does not mean a "no thanks". Good luck and Best wishes!
Just in case you wondered, no one here is in the know on the mechanics of JVP's forum.
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Post by ML on Nov 6, 2019 6:08:57 GMT
I just emailed questionaire form to John for access to his new forum 2 days ago. How long does it generally take to hear back? Hi there ))) I am not so sure. I think its best to message the administrators.
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Post by MaryLee63 on Nov 7, 2019 1:44:57 GMT
Thanks for the replies. I have had problem with my email before where twice 2 different people didn't receive email I sent, so not even sure if received. I would think if rejected, would tactfully be told so, not just silence. I'm just starting book 5 so will probably wait til further along and the weekend and try again, but maybe from my secondary email I don't use as often, and/or do the guest forum for a bit. Thanks again!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 2:20:23 GMT
Thanks for the replies. I have had problem with my email before where twice 2 different people didn't receive email I sent, so not even sure if received. I would think if rejected, would tactfully be told so, not just silence. I'm just starting book 5 so will probably wait til further along and the weekend and try again, but maybe from my secondary email I don't use as often, and/or do the guest forum for a bit. Thanks again!! A very polite suggestion. Join us here. No hassles I promise. And.. we are far more open.
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Post by ML on Nov 7, 2019 3:44:36 GMT
Thanks for the replies. I have had problem with my email before where twice 2 different people didn't receive email I sent, so not even sure if received. I would think if rejected, would tactfully be told so, not just silence. I'm just starting book 5 so will probably wait til further along and the weekend and try again, but maybe from my secondary email I don't use as often, and/or do the guest forum for a bit. Thanks again!! A very polite suggestion. Join us here. No hassles I promise. And.. we are far more open. I 2nd this.
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Post by ML on Nov 9, 2019 6:32:32 GMT
It is great news that John realized that he is in error with his previous forum policies. good job John!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 14:42:17 GMT
It is great news that John realized that he is in error with his previous forum policies. good job John! There is a new rule. No anon. He wants your "real full name" as a user name or at least at the bottom of your comment.
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Nov 9, 2019 14:47:28 GMT
Thank you for the message Miron. I have sent an email requesting access. It is nice to see that John has realised something was wrong. This is definitely different to what happened at the Wes Penre forum. Assuming I get accepted it will be interesting to feel if there is a different atmosphere and energy.
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Nov 9, 2019 14:52:11 GMT
It is great news that John realized that he is in error with his previous forum policies. good job John! There is a new rule. No anon. He wants your "real full name" as a user name or at least at the bottom of your comment. No judgement towards anyone here or any other forum where users have avatar names; I understand there can be numerous reasons why one would use an avatar name and as always I can only speak about personal situation. I have always felt I should use my real name (whatever that is considering the Justinian Deception) as using an Avatar for me always is fear based. So I personally have no problem with this new rule but at the same time I can see why some people would not like this.
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Post by girlscout on Nov 9, 2019 19:17:04 GMT
There is a new rule. No anon. He wants your "real full name" as a user name or at least at the bottom of your comment. No judgement towards anyone here or any other forum where users have avatar names; I understand there can be numerous reasons why one would use an avatar name and as always I can only speak about personal situation. I have always felt I should use my real name (whatever that is considering the Justinian Deception) as using an Avatar for me always is fear based. So I personally have no problem with this new rule but at the same time I can see why some people would not like this. Yup. I re-registered, as Mary, and am in now. I was going through my own tribulations that generated fear when I first joined these forums. I know more now. ; )
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2019 15:35:40 GMT
I have looked to delete my account there but as of yet not found a link to do so. That place for the most part feels very wrong. I will not participate in that forum again.
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Post by twelvestrand on Nov 12, 2019 11:56:40 GMT
I have looked to delete my account there but as of yet not found a link to do so. That place for the most part feels very wrong. I will not participate in that forum again. I think I see what you mean. John appears to be safe guarding his forum a bit excessively. "This forum is not accepting new registrations" With a total of 38 members? One could immediately get the sense of CULT. He also appears to have moved to southern Utah. Who controls that state. Hmm. Folks, has he been compromised? After all a forum is supposed to be open to discuss view points and topics. One can respectfully and politely disagree with another without hatred or contempt. I'd like to hear some of yalls thoughts on this....
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Post by girlscout on Nov 12, 2019 13:31:30 GMT
I have looked to delete my account there but as of yet not found a link to do so. That place for the most part feels very wrong. I will not participate in that forum again. I think I see what you mean. John appears to be safe guarding his forum a bit excessively. "This forum is not accepting new registrations" With a total of 38 members? One could immediately get the sense of CULT. He also appears to have moved to southern Utah. Who controls that state. Hmm. Folks, has he been compromised? After all a forum is supposed to be open to discuss view points and topics. One can respectfully and politely disagree with another without hatred or contempt. I'd like to hear some of yalls thoughts on this.... I think he’s experienced hatred and contempt and is tired of it. i think it’s common after a long, sincere effort/journey. My heart goes out to him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 15:34:16 GMT
I have looked to delete my account there but as of yet not found a link to do so. That place for the most part feels very wrong. I will not participate in that forum again. I think I see what you mean. John appears to be safe guarding his forum a bit excessively. "This forum is not accepting new registrations" With a total of 38 members? One could immediately get the sense of CULT. He also appears to have moved to southern Utah. Who controls that state. Hmm. Folks, has he been compromised? After all a forum is supposed to be open to discuss view points and topics. One can respectfully and politely disagree with another without hatred or contempt. I'd like to hear some of yalls thoughts on this.... I have no contempt or ill will toward John at all. When I say the forum seems a bit cultish it's just that there seems to be little level of free speech. That forum is based upon the experiences of the founder which seem to be locked into a level near law. At this point after reading the latest comments and statements from said founder my conclusion is that John is now channeling the being he calls father. Clear statements from the father to John. If you read the last one the father talks and expresses himself much like the old testament was written. He says there is no hot or cold. You either dive right in and become a full participating member of the forum or basically you are not one of them. I am in no way saying John is a bad guy or he is deliberately misleading folks. But it is his way or the highway it seems. He is the site leader and site guru. In the end what he says goes and all those there discuss his books or experiences based around his findings. See here we have no gurus and not many laws. We bounce ideas off each other and agree to disagree at times. A good thing really. Thanks for participating here Twelvestrand.
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Post by ML on Nov 12, 2019 23:35:02 GMT
I have looked to delete my account there but as of yet not found a link to do so. That place for the most part feels very wrong. I will not participate in that forum again. I think I see what you mean. John appears to be safe guarding his forum a bit excessively. "This forum is not accepting new registrations" With a total of 38 members? One could immediately get the sense of CULT. He also appears to have moved to southern Utah. Who controls that state. Hmm. Folks, has he been compromised? After all a forum is supposed to be open to discuss view points and topics. One can respectfully and politely disagree with another without hatred or contempt. I'd like to hear some of yalls thoughts on this.... to me his books together with Angeliki's are the very best. IF there was only 2 authors that i can pick then that's them. I will readily defend him against bashers.
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Post by IW on Nov 13, 2019 7:14:14 GMT
Marylee63,
Welcome!
I am wondering did you get a response yet? Keep us posted, hopefully it's good news.
I don't see the guest forum there. ?
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Post by IW on Nov 13, 2019 7:26:08 GMT
I think I see what you mean. John appears to be safe guarding his forum a bit excessively. "This forum is not accepting new registrations" With a total of 38 members? I'd like to hear some of yalls thoughts on this.... I think he’s experienced hatred and contempt and is tired of it. i think it’s common after a long, sincere effort/journey. My heart goes out to him.Hatred and contempt is all part and parcel of not agreeing nor abiding by the rules and constraints of the "rulers" of this world. Thankfully there is ALWAYS protection for those willing to do the work, as JVP has often said in his personal testimony.
As far as extra safe guarding, whatever he feels is necessary becomes necessary. No reason to argue whether its right or proper or whatever.
Just to let you all know most of us here love and appreciate Mr. John Panella.
There is no restriction on what people want to do, as long as it follows the principles of goodwill and compassion. All things work together for the good to them that love/to them that are called.
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Post by girlscout on Nov 13, 2019 14:15:53 GMT
Wonderful point Irishwome. I really had to work through ancient “unworthy” emotions just to forge my way through.
Maybe once a negative vibe is let loose, we all have to process the catalyst?
Just a thought. <3
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Post by IW on Nov 13, 2019 22:54:31 GMT
Wonderful point Irishwome. I really had to work through ancient “unworthy” emotions just to forge my way through. Maybe once a negative vibe is let loose, we all have to process the catalyst? Just a thought. <3 There is no doubt it feels very positive there initially with the constant praise and gratitude going on GS, but think about the booting of Miron and Hans recently and some others in the past month. Do you think it was positive and uplifting words going on behind the scenes that gave them the boot? They did not even get an explanation. No thought to how this might affect them. Those of us here are not anywhere close to perfection but acknowledge our desire for a closer relationship to the Father and Mother and Christ. People from all paths are welcome to come without fear of "retribution". True seeing eye to eye is not always possible but there is no boot out the door for not reaching full awareness. We immediately had put out all of John's work when we started our forum as we did with the Greek lady's work seeing it had the most truth of anything to date. But not judgemental if there are those not yet ready for the "meat". As an afterthought,I hadn't said it in a while. Thanks to Elisabeth for bringing us the Greek lady's work. There is much there that ties in with John's work. We welcome all those looking for the truth and working on their spiritual journey. Truth will lead you to more truth and there is no judgment on a stumble or two on the way. Thanks GS for your thoughts on this. <3
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Post by Hans Schokkenbroek on Nov 14, 2019 7:20:22 GMT
LOVE = JOY = PEACE = PATIENCE = KINDNESS = GOODNESS = FAITH = GENTLENESS = TEMPERANCE = LIFE ETERNAL
I believe we have the above intent on this forum and we have so far managed very well in keeping that great energy here. And thank you John for writing this great guidance in your books. I am not sure though where booting someone out without any notice and consideration on the effect on those people falls in the above category . Maybe empathy is also part of the good fruits? Having said that it takes guts for John to do what he did afterwards and I have accepted his invite to come back. No questions asked from his side and no judgements offered from my side.
The actions of JVP and his administrators come in my view from fear and thinking for someone else (with very good intentions). Both are in my humble opinion non serving. Protecting a forum should not be necessary. If you put the right energy into the forum then all will be well on the forum. If you feel you need protection you will automatically invite the very thing that you are trying to protect yourself from. If you fear your bag will be stolen you will attract a thief who will attempt to steal your bag.
But.... it is not up to me to judge. Since reading JVP and Angeliki the only thing I am focused on now is helping others to raise their awareness.
And yes.... thank you Elisabeth for bringing our attention to Angeliki.
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Post by IW on Nov 14, 2019 7:31:53 GMT
Hi Twelvestrand and welcome.
Glad to know you are reading up on stuff. I'm curious to know if John's forum is what you were looking for, but ended up here, since it seems to be closed?
Here is your comment/ twelvestrand Absolutely, in fact I am not taking a position of bashing the guy. I am just observing some points here. When you have a forum to discuss said information and its appears to be closed without any contact info or instructions to apply, its a head scratcher. Also Utah is heavily controlled by Mormons whom are involved in very nefarious things. Not suggesting he is. But this raises an eye brow as well. The air I have gotten lately about John is that he wants to be a gate keeper. That's all I am going to say. In fact I am going to finish his books because the higher fruits combined with faith are an excellent practice in integrating spirit to this world.
John's forum is not really about discussing said information. In fact that would be the quickest way to ensure a big old NO from him as far as joining. He has said that such discussions in and of itself proves that you don't "internally" understand what he has written, haven't read all through the series enough times, or are too lazy to work it out on your own--all reasons for him to NOT discuss said information. He calls this pearls before swine.
His forum is much more about Communion.
Our forum on the other hand discusses. We are a work in progress, no one is really a leader here. We all try to be kind to one another, although I probably have been the least kind in general and Miron the most kind. Working out a better understanding of our situation here and what to do is most seekers concern. The fact that most of us have "holes" in our awareness is just accepted. Growth takes time and effort.
Best wishes to you.
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Post by twelvestrand on Nov 15, 2019 15:51:44 GMT
Hi Twelvestrand and welcome.
Glad to know you are reading up on stuff. I'm curious to know if John's forum is what you were looking for, but ended up here, since it seems to be closed?
Here is your comment/ twelvestrand Absolutely, in fact I am not taking a position of bashing the guy. I am just observing some points here. When you have a forum to discuss said information and its appears to be closed without any contact info or instructions to apply, its a head scratcher. Also Utah is heavily controlled by Mormons whom are involved in very nefarious things. Not suggesting he is. But this raises an eye brow as well. The air I have gotten lately about John is that he wants to be a gate keeper. That's all I am going to say. In fact I am going to finish his books because the higher fruits combined with faith are an excellent practice in integrating spirit to this world.
John's forum is not really about discussing said information. In fact that would be the quickest way to ensure a big old NO from him as far as joining. He has said that such discussions in and of itself proves that you don't "internally" understand what he has written, haven't read all through the series enough times, or are too lazy to work it out on your own--all reasons for him to NOT discuss said information. He calls this pearls before swine.
His forum is much more about Communion.
Our forum on the other hand discusses. We are a work in progress, no one is really a leader here. We all try to be kind to one another, although I probably have been the least kind in general and Miron the most kind. Working out a better understanding of our situation here and what to do is most seekers concern. The fact that most of us have "holes" in our awareness is just accepted. Growth takes time and effort.
Best wishes to you.
Thanks Irishwome, I actually found this forum through searching for people whom had read Angelikis book, as I was thirsted to discuss with like minds. Let me say that I am very grateful to have found y'all. I started reading her book it in Oct of 2018 and finished early spring of 2019. I took my time to make sure the info was taking hold in my being. Completely blown away by the depth and profoundness. I actually found her book on an "in between lives" type article, mentioned in the loads of comments at the bottom. Tons of gems in those comments from various peoples opinions. I was skeptical at first, (I asked my self could this be more misinfo?) because the title of her book was very "blunt and concise" as no one has the absolute truth here in this world we find ourselves in. However, I was quickly turned around after checking her website out. Thoroughly impressed with the intricacies and nuances of her research. After reading the introduction of the book, she mentioned that the truth is scattered and fragmented, I whole heatedly agreed and continued to read in light of my astonishment of her well rounded research. Moving on to JVP, I discovered him through y'all. I started reading his books a couple of months ago, (I read several books and articles at a time as I get pushed and pulled by my thirst and inquisitiveness) as I am only just finishing book 2. Sorry if I seem knee jerky towards him, I love his message thus far. My concern, is that with over 10 years on my quest and journey for truth, I have seen so many people become compromised. Like seriously. I have been deceived before as well. It all started in 2008 with Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan from Project Camelot and EVERYONE they interviewed,.... I listened to. Mostly whistle blowers then new age stuff. They really shook my whole world and helped me to shift my paradigm. However, like most I've found they mixed truth and lies together as JVP mentions, what always happens to truth in this world, it becomes confounded. Anyway I digress, I absolutely and whole heatedly agree with his material. Some confusion might just be language or semantics if anything. When I saw this particular thread, it caught my eye, so I went to check out his new forum and found what I had mentioned above. That was my gut reaction, so I asked what y'all thought? On a tangent, I have been reading a book related to Angeliki's methodology and am very excited to say that I will be creating my own thread for all to discuss. Cheers and Happy Friday!
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Post by ML on Nov 15, 2019 18:05:29 GMT
On a tangent, I have been reading a book related to Angeliki's methodology and am very excited to say that I will be creating my own thread for all to discuss. Cheers and Happy Friday! absolutely fantastic mate. looking forward to it. Thank you!
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