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Post by ML on Feb 21, 2019 2:50:24 GMT
This quote from Tellez today and from Mathew of KJV says the same thing... That the more you want and have off this world, the more you get further from your real home.... as i scan through mainstream media... i see delusional people agreeing to blatant liars its incredible how can they be fooled that easily ( some of them knows and actively participate) i also feel (people are free to think that i am wrong of course ) that now....most Truth seeking guru's are well ensnared by their own theories/hypothesis because of their following.....they cant go against their baseline even if presented with hard truths because their main core of beliefs gets questioned and support might get affected so they stick with their theories. who knows maybe it was designed that way from the start? we dont know. .....a greater number wont make it... its getting crazier by the day. sorry for this gloom... now lets adjust that emotional trigger and be happy Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 3:52:49 GMT
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Post by ML on Feb 21, 2019 4:59:15 GMT
yes.
religion is there ultimately to ensnare men.
my take
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Post by ray on Feb 24, 2019 2:23:44 GMT
From Miron : Wes calls the father KHAN-ENLIL and the son ( step-son) he call Prince ENLIL. KHAN-ENLIL is a SIRIAN KING in command of the MIKH-MAHK Warrions serving the queen of Orion..... all from WPP
Wes seems to be the ONLY one who uses the name KHAN-enlil and ENLIl is Annunaki NOT Sirian so NO connection to Orion either.
At the moment I am just trying to sort out the CONTRADICTIONS and the illogical theories.
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Post by IW on Feb 24, 2019 12:41:35 GMT
From Miron : Wes calls the father KHAN-ENLIL and the son ( step-son) he call Prince ENLIL. KHAN-ENLIL is a SIRIAN KING in command of the MIKH-MAHK Warrions serving the queen of Orion..... all from WPP Wes seems to be the ONLY one who uses the name KHAN-enlil and ENLIl is Annunaki NOT Sirian so NO connection to Orion either. At the moment I am just trying to sort out the CONTRADICTIONS and the illogical theories.
I would think the best course is allow Wes (or anyone) their belief system intact.
Even though Wes has claimed an anonymous source, there is no verification on much of his "information".
He has done his research which is his WPP, and put together a belief based on this.
Every person who is a truth seeker goes through the same process and no one is going to be 100% accurate or logical.
It doesn't make him any better or any worse than anyone else.
Thanks Ray.
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Post by ray on Feb 24, 2019 20:13:30 GMT
Please don't take this unkindly Irish, but teachers realize that they are NOT doing any favor to a learner by not correcting inaccurate or false information. There is an accepted methodology for doing research and presenting it in print or other media formally or informally. The results of research are a theory or hypothesis but NOT a belief. Any researcher knows that a theory or hypothesis ONLY lasts long enough for another researcher to disprove it or modify it to better fit the evidence. A mathematician does NOT have an emotional commitment to the solution of a problem and neither does a true researcher have an emotional commitment to a theory but like math, a theory must be logical and as accurate as possible given current evidence.
All Research is FREE of value statements of the researcher such as "better" "worse than anyone else"etc.
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Post by IW on Feb 26, 2019 0:08:54 GMT
Ray,
I have no emotional connection to these postings. And whether or not you understand what I'm trying to say, I'm sure someone out there gets it and possibly benefits from it.
I am not injured or offended by what you think of me, it really is not a priority. For anyone to think someone is a genius, there most likely will be someone else who thinks that person a total pumpkinhead.
The main problem for you is that you are mostly talking academia (speak)
academia definition: 1. the part of society, especially universities, that is connected with studying and thinking, or the activity or job of studying: 2. the teaching, studying, and scientific work that happens in colleges and universities
This may apply for university, book writers, mathematicians or scientists. They may feel superior to the ones outside of this circle. This is what the matrix is all about. They do not look for "truth" but only speculate endlessly, with many results that other people in academia may find worthwhile.
This is not what we do here. A truth seeker does not go through the "methodooology". It is an innerstanding, a resonation from within.
Truth works from within first and if you lack that innerstanding, then all else will be a work of theory or hypothesis (and nothing else).
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Post by IW on Feb 26, 2019 3:48:47 GMT
Please don't take this unkindly Irish, but teachers realize that they are NOT doing any favor to a learner by not correcting inaccurate or false information. There is an accepted methodology for doing research and presenting it in print or other media formally or informally. The results of research are a theory or hypothesis but NOT a belief. Any researcher knows that a theory or hypothesis ONLY lasts long enough for another researcher to disprove it or modify it to better fit the evidence. A mathematician does NOT have an emotional commitment to the solution of a problem and neither does a true researcher have an emotional commitment to a theory but like math, a theory must be logical and as accurate as possible given current evidence. All Research is FREE of value statements of the researcher such as "better" "worse than anyone else"etc.
We all start out equal but where we end up, is up to us IMO.
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Post by ty; on Jun 20, 2019 23:03:16 GMT
This quote from Tellez today and from Mathew of KJV says the same thing... That the more you want and have off this world, the more you get further from your real home.... as i scan through mainstream media... i see delusional people agreeing to blatant liars its incredible how can they be fooled that easily ( some of them knows and actively participate) i also feel (people are free to think that i am wrong of course ) that now....most Truth seeking guru's are well ensnared by their own theories/hypothesis because of their following.....they cant go against their baseline even if presented with hard truths because their main core of beliefs gets questioned and support might get affected so they stick with their theories. who knows maybe it was designed that way from the start? we dont know. .....a greater number wont make it... its getting crazier by the day. sorry for this gloom... now lets adjust that emotional trigger and be happy Thanks Funny, I had a thought the other day as I was pondering that saying in Matthew of " the last will be first". I was wondering if instead of meaning the last in economic status it was meaning the last ones who entered the matrix/simulation because they entered it with maybe an erroneous idea but still it was to help the ones who had been deceived by the great deceiver... Service to others instead of service to self? Also, yes, I can see with really wonderful people, true seeds, that they are still attached to the world, I see it in my family when I thought differently and I see it in very close friends of mine as well. One common thing is that they can't shake the hold that the world has on them, they are attached to people, things like houses, personal items, or countries, cultures, Earthly love, chocolate LOL, etc. I realize how difficult it is to truly detach from what we are used to every day. I see how not ready to exit most are because frankly they don't want to, it's not their utmost desire, it has been a realization that even when people have a desire to awaken, something is keeping them from a full awakening. It can be any distraction even spiritual. What I feel is that a true seed who has a very sincere desire to exit and to go back home to the F/M, HS, way beyond the cosmos, can only do so if Divine Grace has found him/her and he/she can see all the fake world with true Spirit eyes (with the help of the F/M, Higher Self) without judging anyone still attached and ensnared. It's all OK, there will be plenty of more opportunities presented at the end of the time loops. It's all accomplished anyway. At least the ones who will make it out will be able to come back as helpers for the ones who were misdirected, so each time loop there are more true seeds helping from behind the veil. It's so difficult when one doesn't remember anything. Truly the cards are stacked up against our real awakening and foremost desire to exit, not an easy accomplishment. So yes, unfortunately Miron what you are saying (very few will make it ) makes sense and one can only plant a seed in those who don't see how they can benefit from a total exit of the game. They don't understand that the only way to win the game is to NOT play! That's tough when most are addicted to the game.... J .V. Panella: The Time-Loop Chronicles *3 p.84:"All the true children are encoded to know the truth from within their divine Spirit. But the soul has been manipulated to cause them to forget. When the Father awakens them he does so by connecting to that which was encoded within them and once they make this connection, they will also recognize the truth."Hence, the Kingdom of Heaven is within us: the encoding, our link to the Higher Self's (or F/M) guidance. great post, very ture.
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Post by ML on Jun 21, 2019 0:16:14 GMT
Thank you ty;
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Post by Stranger2 on Mar 9, 2020 15:11:45 GMT
Ray,
This is not what we do here. A truth seeker does not go through the "methodooology". It is an innerstanding, a resonation from within.
Truth works from within first and if you lack that innerstanding, then all else will be a work of theory or hypothesis (and nothing else).
I totally understand what you are saying because I myself has been a spiritual seeker through all my life, as well as a scientist by profession. But here is the problem. Take any religion or any religious sect of the world, talk to any religious believer and try to understand his inner motivations and views (I used to be the one so I think I understand this mindset). Almost guaranteed that all of them would tell you that the truth of their religion "resonates" with them "from within" no matter how ridiculous the belief can be. So, there is something flawed in this approach. "Resonating from within" is definitely a key part of the spiritual exploration, but it is destined to failure if not accompanied with analytical and scientifically-oriented approach as well.
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Post by Mili on Mar 17, 2020 5:22:55 GMT
Hi guys , I just found this forum !
Im still looking how to stop playing this game and I still don’t have answers. I did read WPP and to be honest I liked the idea to go through the grid to khaa. Atm I’m so confused! I just don’t know what is the best option and what is really going on ! Lol ... I’m still so “stupid”/naive! , I read a lot about life and universe etc . And I don’t know nothing ! I’m tired to be manipulated by the system and to be manipulated after death and not knowing what is right and what’s wrong ! ! I was thinking if we coming from the source and we are source so why after death we do go/ travel inward and go back home - we don’t need to go to the khaa we Just go Inside our self ! I. Can some please tell me where is the esc button! I’m giving up ! Lol .. I don’t know the rules anymore !
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Post by Henrik on Mar 17, 2020 11:59:56 GMT
Hi guys , I just found this forum ! Im still looking how to stop playing this game and I still don’t have answers. I did read WPP and to be honest I liked the idea to go through the grid to khaa. Atm I’m so confused! I just don’t know what is the best option and what is really going on ! Lol ... I’m still so “stupid”/naive! , I read a lot about life and universe etc . And I don’t know nothing ! I’m tired to be manipulated by the system and to be manipulated after death and not knowing what is right and what’s wrong ! ! I was thinking if we coming from the source and we are source so why after death we do go/ travel inward and go back home - we don’t need to go to the khaa we Just go Inside our self ! I. Can some please tell me where is the esc button! I’m giving up ! Lol .. I don’t know the rules anymore ! My take: This is how many of us feel. In the end you can only trust yourself. I also have trouble figuring out if there is a net, or if the tunnel is the trap, or the net or a secondary net or this or that. Ultimately anything can be a trap. Ultimately you can only put your trust in "something" and hope for the best, a leap of faith. IMO the safest option is "yourself", meaning your innermost self, that vague "higher-self"-thingy. I'm being vague on purpose here, because it IS vague. Nurture your "sixth" sense, your connection to source, spirit or call-it-whatever and learn to "communicate" with it and use it to your own benefit. Everything else is secondary and will, hopefully, fall into place with the development of this skill, your intuition if you will.
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Post by Stranger2 on Mar 17, 2020 13:54:28 GMT
Welcome, Mili, and I agree with you and Henrik. Yes, the way to go is to discover your true Self, which is no different from my Self or anyone else's Self, we all share the same true Self, but only have fictitious individual separate selves. But if you leave the effort to find your core Self till after you die, that may be too late. If we want to go this way, we need to find out who we really are and do it in this life, so that we can escape there immediately at the moment of death. And that is quite possible, but finding the true Self takes a lot of courage because the process is like peeling the onion - dis-identify with everything that you previously thought you are - the body, emotions, thoughts, soul and so on to very deep levels, and those identifications are usually not easy to let go because we developed strong attachments and identifications with them.
The rules are simple: just quit playing and involvement with this Matrix game of dualities and seeming separation, and identification with "me" - a character of the game. Essentially, it's not about entering or not entering any portals or tunnels or nets, doing this would be just keeping wandering through the maze of the same Matrix which is designed only to confuse us and to set expectations that somewhere else in this Matrix the life is always easy and happy. Any Matrix game that has rules to tell you that you are a separate "character" (self) is a fake and it's always a package deal: once you dive into it you will get confused, forget who you really are and inevitably suffer at some point. And that is because once we have a sense of (artificial) separate self, the ego will inevitably develop around the sense of self, and the ego will inevitably get us into confusion, suffering and troubles. The "Khaa" is simply a collection of such duality games. But yes, you will get plenty of thrilling experiences in these games, that's why so many souls still choose to do it.
Another problem of diving into the duality game is that it is like a black hole: it is very easy to jump in but very hard to get out and break free from it. Once we separate (in our own minds) ourselves from the unity of Self into separate selves/egos, the "enclosure" of the separate self becomes a trap, a black hole, with very strong gravitational attachment force distorting our perception of the world. We become totally addicted to our selves, and we see the world through the "gravitational lens" of the ego.
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Post by Stranger2 on Mar 17, 2020 16:18:36 GMT
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Post by Mili on Mar 18, 2020 22:43:27 GMT
Hi guys . Thanks for the respond! I appreciated it. I personally don't know yet how to listen or how to connect with my higher-self. I kind of learn to listen my 'six sense' by recognising if something feels right to me I will go there and if something feels off than i'm not going to go there- i'm not sure if this is the same us higher self. Sometimes i just stop and start look around me and i just say 'what the heck is going on' and my mind kind of wants to explode LOL. I really want to know who is the source and why this existence exist. whats the purpose. I think this is just one layer on the source- imagine how layers are out there. And I also think for the source everything is just a game/ mind game. I agree what Stranger2 is saying about ego and ID but why we have to go through all this trouble to find the truth. I really have no idea how to find true self, no actually my true self is i want to know whats going on. that's my true self atm.LOL I understand we are all under same umbrella and we all have same question-which is very interesting. I apologise for my bragging
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Post by Stranger2 on Mar 19, 2020 0:59:55 GMT
Hi guys . Thanks for the respond! I appreciated it. I personally don't know yet how to listen or how to connect with my higher-self. I kind of learn to listen my 'six sense' by recognising if something feels right to me I will go there and if something feels off than i'm not going to go there- i'm not sure if this is the same us higher self. Sometimes i just stop and start look around me and i just say 'what the heck is going on' and my mind kind of wants to explode LOL. I really want to know who is the source and why this existence exist. whats the purpose. I think this is just one layer on the source- imagine how layers are out there. And I also think for the source everything is just a game/ mind game. I agree what Stranger2 is saying about ego and ID but why we have to go through all this trouble to find the truth. I really have no idea how to find true self, no actually my true self is i want to know whats going on. that's my true self atm.LOL I understand we are all under same umbrella and we all have same question-which is very interesting. I apologise for my bragging Mili, you are among very few lucky ones who even bother to ask this question of "who I am". Well, a way to find your true Self is to dis-identify with everything that is not your Self. What is left after all that self-inquiry will be the Self. We usually think that we are separate selves possessing souls, identities, characters, bodies etc, all of that stuff "belongs" to our selves as we think. But find if all this stuff is really who you are, and if it is not who you are, then how do you find who you are? Are your thoughts you, do they belong to you? No, you are the one who experiences the thoughts, who are aware of them, they are not "you" but are simply some appearances in your mind. You are also the experiencer of the body, so the body is not you but just something you experience. So what or who is experiencing all that stuff, what/who is aware of it? It's just pure awareness. That awareness is exactly what you are, the Self. This awareness has no soul, body, sex, age, it has no limits, it does not change, it exists beyond time, it has never been born and will never die. And awareness, the ability to experience and to be aware, is of the same nature in everyone, so it is universal and is fundamental reality of the Universe, it is the One. Everything that happens in the world only happens in this Awareness like a dream or a fantasy, so it's not as real as we are used to think. What you usually think you are is only a character of the dream. But what you really are is this Awareness that is experiencing the dream. Well, we are just points of this Awareness watching the dream from different perspectives, but essentially the Awareness, the "substance" of the Awareness, is the same in all of us. But the point is not to take it as an idea and not to just believe in it, but discover it by yourself experientially as a fact. Western philosophers and scientists ( Donald D. Hoffman, David Chalmers) discovered it in the recent years, but that has been known to sages for millennia
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