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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 20:52:49 GMT
Just got alerted on FB by some friends of famous Doreen Virtue, New Age teacher switching to traditional Christianity and Bible teaching! WOW! She supposedly was changed when she saw Jesus appearing to her in a church a year ago. I guess it took her a year to "repent" and now she is doing free videos and gives a free book online to all those who will go to hell for staying in New Age teachings. From listening to another lady's video explaining what Doreen wrote I gathered that there are quite a few New Agers going to the traditional Christian side these days. Interesting! What does that mean? So basically it could be that Lucifer decided to instruct some, maybe many, New Agers by appearing to them disguised as Jesus, or by telling them to become Christians and worship god! That god is an external one of course (Luci herself) and they will be saved. Now we understand that god is Luci so would that mean that she wants them to understand that Jesus, aka the false one as Maitreya (false ascended master), will return soon (second coming) and to start expecting him and worship only him? Maybe too many went within to hear the Father/Mother's guidance and that's not good for Luci's business, so she is derailing the previous construct of New A. Maybe too many are questioning N.Age. So change of plan? When you read her expose of why it is very dangerous to follow N. Age teachings, you'll see a lot of "worship god" language. A lot of what she says is true of course, like she suggests there is a lot of truth in everything and a lot of deceit mixed up. Funny IMHO that she is telling people to leave one form of belief system because of demons in order to go to another one containing so many traps and demoniac language as JVP pointed out in his books. But that would be expected of someone as tricky as Luci, wouldn't it? Here is the attached article for your discernment: use doreenvirtue.com/2019/01/21/an-a-z-list-of-new-age-practices-to-avoid-and-why/Anyone's comments? Well even some of us here are being pulled in a Christian direction with the teachings of JVP and Angeliki. Both often quote and attempt to interrupt biblical passages. Both in different words tell us Christ/Jesus was "a" or "the" special one. So one could spend their life just investigating whether or not he was and to what capacity. What writings were true? Some after a while believe they are enlightened or they finally understand. Maybe they are. To be honest the deeper I go down the rabbit hole the less I know and the more I wish I never stuck my head down in it to begin with! I can direct you to well meaning sources that tell us to develop our occult powers. Powers that have been taken from us. Then some other well meaning source will tell us the exact opposite.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 23:36:51 GMT
Just got alerted on FB by some friends of famous Doreen Virtue, New Age teacher switching to traditional Christianity and Bible teaching! WOW! She supposedly was changed when she saw Jesus appearing to her in a church a year ago. I guess it took her a year to "repent" and now she is doing free videos and gives a free book online to all those who will go to hell for staying in New Age teachings. From listening to another lady's video explaining what Doreen wrote I gathered that there are quite a few New Agers going to the traditional Christian side these days. Interesting! What does that mean? So basically it could be that Lucifer decided to instruct some, maybe many, New Agers by appearing to them disguised as Jesus, or by telling them to become Christians and worship god! That god is an external one of course (Luci herself) and they will be saved. Now we understand that god is Luci so would that mean that she wants them to understand that Jesus, aka the false one as Maitreya (false ascended master), will return soon (second coming) and to start expecting him and worship only him? Maybe too many went within to hear the Father/Mother's guidance and that's not good for Luci's business, so she is derailing the previous construct of New A. Maybe too many are questioning N.Age. So change of plan? When you read her expose of why it is very dangerous to follow N. Age teachings, you'll see a lot of "worship god" language. A lot of what she says is true of course, like she suggests there is a lot of truth in everything and a lot of deceit mixed up. Funny IMHO that she is telling people to leave one form of belief system because of demons in order to go to another one containing so many traps and demoniac language as JVP pointed out in his books. But that would be expected of someone as tricky as Luci, wouldn't it? Here is the attached article for your discernment: use doreenvirtue.com/2019/01/21/an-a-z-list-of-new-age-practices-to-avoid-and-why/Anyone's comments? Well even some of us here are being pulled in a Christian direction with the teachings of JVP and Angeliki. Both often quote and attempt to interrupt biblical passages. Both in different words tell us Christ/Jesus was "a" or "the" special one. So one could spend their life just investigating whether or not he was and to what capacity. What writings were true? Some after a while believe they are enlightened or they finally understand. Maybe they are. To be honest the deeper I go down the rabbit hole the less I know and the more I wish I never stuck my head down in it to begin with! I can direct you to well meaning sources that tell us to develop our occult powers. Powers that have been taken from us. Then some other well meaning source will tell us the exact opposite. "To be honest the deeper I go down the rabbit hole the less I know and the more I wish I never stuck my head down in it to begin with!" This made me laugh because I sometimes feel this way. I had a more spontaneous enjoyment of life before all of this, which perhaps really translates to more aspirations, more reasons to stay alive, less doubt. In actuality I think that it is important for us to go down this road. At the very least it forces us to live in the now and at most it has the potential to take us to a better place, which we might not have been aware of otherwise. Certainly no matter how comfortable a life may seem, there is always an awareness that something is wrong and of course the suffering of others serves to brings this into sharp focus.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 19:29:43 GMT
I often read online of people into some kind of paganism or new ageism and switching to christianity. In some cases they are saying the right sort of thing like new age religion is really actually evil and harmful and a trap. However they end up giving their power away to a God of some sort, and suspending further critical judgement. Christianity is appealing containing enough half truths to convince people to jump to it, a sort of bait. People have the inner feeling to connect with their deepest aspect but it gets diverted to a God which is really just the garbage in disguise. The garbage itself will calculate what is the best way to mislead someone. As soon as they feel someone is changing their mind they will change tactics. So when someone trully starts to wake up, they come and say, oh no new age religion was really wrong. I will show you what is right. So their want for change and critical thinking is diverted elsewhere.
I can sort of relate to this. Maybe before I started to realise more things (although I always was suspicious) I almost feel like I was more spontaneous and joyful (except I was probably not and just looking back with tinted lenses lol). Well really more just going in a different direction back then. Then things started to get weird and people in my environment made me go in this direction I guess along with inner nudging of a sort. But when I think about it this was what I really needed.
I changed much more rapidly than I ever did before whilst I learnt and went through a lot of things. And it was thanks to the experiences I had and information I found. I do miss not knowing about these things just doing things as I go along sort of thing, enjoying what was there without constantly finding flaws within it. I did not realise the things that went on in the world, and I still realise things happening in the world everyday that are not so nice. I improved so much even though I still went through a lot of bad experiences again but I guess it was unavoidable.
But gradually I am becoming better and back to enjoying things again. Often I have a lot of anxiety appear and as I gather it is a sort of direct interference from the garbage, although the healthier way is to just deal with it without overthinking that. Enjoy life, get outside in nature, do creative things, learn about the world whatever suits you best, helps to do a variety. Just avoid those people who will drag you down.
Yes the word enlightenment is defo very deceptive in the way it relates to light of some sort. I do consider enlightenment different to awakening however, as awakening can be applied more generally to realising things. Enlightenment as I read is basically a change of perspective. I will use what Philip G. says, although some Buddhist books are not too unclear about this concept either and do a good job. To paraphrase, It is when you percieve yourself directly as fundamental consciousness, so you are the space where phenomena and experience arise. It is more than just an intellectual acknowledgement, you can't force it but as part of awakening (maybe this could include enlightenment too however), self actualizing whatever it may come along or not.
I do not have experience of it myself lol
As for JVP I have looked into it before but never really liked it at all. He uses the word children which seems like a way of trying to infantilise people. Also just too many traditional christian terms, I think what words you choose to use is actually very important.
I guess if you read into it, there are important ideas there like how humans are taken for harvest? however too many inner alarm bells go off for me to read into that.
Angeliki was more readable to me but, still I saw things that seemed strange (I can't quite remember but there was a table of some sort on the site that seemed to have views that seemed significantly off to me). Some good things again. But really again true source of info and discernment is yourself ;P
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 21:59:30 GMT
I agree. I mean maybe we are offspring of the universe and maybe we are not the highest developed beings in the galaxy but to equate us with near helpless babies seems rather wrong. For me it seems like way to avoid developing ourselves.
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Post by ML on Aug 29, 2019 0:10:31 GMT
EVERYTHING-IS-BULL-BULLSHIT! That i know! hahahahah ----- BUT......... There are things in this world that we are very sure of because of various reasons: 1. We experienced it and we felt it within our souls... not just the regular illusions that the PTSNB throws at us. 2. There is a spark within us that tells us to search for something. We dont stop until we are satisfied. we are only satisfied when we encounter an information that made our head seems to grow ten times bigger and we had goosebumps for many minutes. many times i ran around like a headless chicken when i 'learned' a new thing. we know its true because this un-explainable burst of energy we seem to generate within our body. --- we are spirits and even if we are confronted by 100% bullshit. we will find a way to find the truth that we need. now about this christian thing...the word Christianity alone tick off many people and for good reason too lol. the letters c-h-r-i-s-t-i-a-n is just a word if put together. replace it with another word that you like if you want too. but the important thing is the 'TEACHINGS'. the message. My take
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Post by ML on Aug 29, 2019 0:22:09 GMT
Just my conclusion the phrase "GIVING-AWAY-YOUR-POWER" is phrase created by the new age I've heard this many times and it is my conclusion that this is a very powerful phrase that we need to get rid off. I've heard it from Wes when discussing the DIVINE PARENT Panella is talking about. He thinks 'believing' in a parent is giving away your power but believing in a queen is not. I am not saying its wrong. its his conclusion. i just have a different one. --- looking at our current world.... Does a 5 year old boy needs taking care of or can he survive on his own? of course he cant....he's not mature enough.....as above so below.... so spiritually are we mature enough? if the boy is taken care of by someone who cares for him, does that mean the boy 'gave away his power' ? Thank you all for being here.
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Post by ML on Aug 29, 2019 0:26:42 GMT
As for JVP I have looked into it before but never really liked it at all. He uses the word children which seems like a way of trying to infantilise people. Also just too many traditional christian terms, I think what words you choose to use is actually very important.
I guess if you read into it, there are important ideas there like how humans are taken for harvest? however too many inner alarm bells go off for me to read into that.
Angeliki was more readable to me but, still I saw things that seemed strange (I can't quite remember but there was a table of some sort on the site that seemed to have views that seemed significantly off to me). Some good things again. But really again true source of info and discernment is yourself ;P
I agree 100% Thanks Griffy!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2019 8:33:48 GMT
Does a 5 year old boy needs taking care of or can he survive on his own?
of course he cant....he's not mature enough.....as above so below.... so spiritually are we mature enough?
if the boy is taken care of by someone who cares for him, does that mean the boy 'gave away his power' ? Thanks for reading. Mm I disagree with that though, kinda reminds me of what like some traditional type christians say to me (not trying to frame them as bad btw sometimes they say stuff that makes sense and I have had good conversations). So I will go off topic a bit but hopefully it helps explain. For example I ask them why the God of the Bible punishes so many people. They might say perhaps God can punish us because it is part of learning process and we are weak and unable to take care of ourselves. Like children need to face this same thing when they are younger, you need to do this etc. My problem is that apart from the idea of punishment (like those christian books for how to disipline children and doggies lol). Externally shaping someone using positive or negative methods is limiting. Positive is ofc preferable and can be a good thing! but even that can become abuse if used wrongly. It can be fine sometimes to reward people like this to create positive associations etc., but if the only reason someone is doing something is for the end reward i'm not sure its so good.
In the case of a dog being punished, it is not doing something because they think it is right, they are scared, it is not a great method of training. For their case you can and should use positive reinforcement, though in many cases lol maybe they do not enjoy activity, although it is a way of learning I suppose. In fact they haven't really learnt so much as create positive associations through rewards. Though some dogs ofc naturally enjoy things like chasing balls etc others don't and you have to train them, but perhaps forcing them to do something they really dont want to do for a reward is cruel (I haven't thought about this tbh lol and just typing it out as I go along). Though in a sense the dog is a perpetual child I suppose, most dogs do stay quite dependent on their owners unless they run away and escape lol.
Back to the thing about a child. I think also a child is not fully grounded yet, unable to physically take care of themselves and needs help to learn about the world. But eventually you start to become more independent and a lot of teaching them should be about, how to take care of themselves, rather than how to let someone else take care of you. Although we are all interdependent on society ofc and on others to some extent. But we aim to become as self actualized, even if for some people it takes a lot more. At least as humans anyway. There is actually a quote in christianity about doing away with childish things, and you could interpret it as growing and moving on, which is strange considering they use the word children so much.
Of course idea power being something given is simplified not exact at all, in fact it may have some downfalls, as you don't literally give that power away it is more you look to someone else. In a sense no power is transferred. I am interested however to hear more about why you think so.
Overall we need to cultivate that self power, if we look to others to do that we cannot do that so easily. Though yes sometimes we do need help from others to speed up the learning process etc, but I think for me the phrase, is mostly just in the context of avoiding "Dark forces", sources of confusion etc, we should not give power to these things. Even though I'm not saying that in some cases they do not help you learn too lol by giving bad experiences (or good depending on how you look at it). What I am saying is don't do deals with the devil. Using a tool even like a computer to help cultivate your own power is not a bad thing, using it to override your own good sense and judgement is probably not the best thing though what is best is something you determine yourself and varies depending on context.
The other problem is you see the inner power within yourself as "other" seperate from the self. Your deepest aspects (commonly known as higher self), are not seperate from you. Again the need to cultivate that power and look within yourself. Once you start looking at a "God" or similar you are now seperate from yourself and that is the problem. You are giving an opportunity for "outside" influences to manipulate you. (not truly outside but it is practical to regard them as so) Of course I respect whatever helps you at the current time. I am suspicious also of what new agers say, but I feel the phrase is a matter of context really.
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Post by ML on Aug 29, 2019 23:55:26 GMT
Mm I disagree with that though, That a 5 year old might survive on his own? ... well maybe.. we cant possibly know. but i am not betting on it. kinda reminds me of what like some traditional type christians say to me (not trying to frame them as bad btw sometimes they say stuff that makes sense and I have had good conversations). So I will go off topic a bit but hopefully it helps explain. For example I ask them why the God of the Bible punishes so many people. They might say perhaps God can punish us because it is part of learning process and we are weak and unable to take care of ourselves. Like children need to face this same thing when they are younger, you need to do this etc. My problem is that apart from the idea of punishment (like those christian books for how to disipline children and doggies lol). Externally shaping someone using positive or negative methods is limiting. Positive is ofc preferable and can be a good thing! but even that can become abuse if used wrongly. It can be fine sometimes to reward people like this to create positive associations etc., but if the only reason someone is doing something is for the end reward i'm not sure its so good.
In the case of a dog being punished, it is not doing something because they think it is right, they are scared, it is not a great method of training. For their case you can and should use positive reinforcement, though in many cases lol maybe they do not enjoy activity, although it is a way of learning I suppose. In fact they haven't really learnt so much as create positive associations through rewards. Though some dogs ofc naturally enjoy things like chasing balls etc others don't and you have to train them, but perhaps forcing them to do something they really dont want to do for a reward is cruel (I haven't thought about this tbh lol and just typing it out as I go along). Though in a sense the dog is a perpetual child I suppose, most dogs do stay quite dependent on their owners unless they run away and escape lol.
Dog is God spelled backward. lol. any teachings that venerates the word 'God' is off the mark in my book. [/div] Back to the thing about a child. I think also a child is not fully grounded yet, unable to physically take care of themselves and needs help to learn about the world. But eventually you start to become more independent and a lot of teaching them should be about, how to take care of themselves, rather than how to let someone else take care of you. Although we are all interdependent on society ofc and on others to some extent. But we aim to become as self actualized, even if for some people it takes a lot more. At least as humans anyway. There is actually a quote in christianity about doing away with childish things, and you could interpret it as growing and moving on, which is strange considering they use the word children so much.
all the answers are within you..... and specifically within your post. lol.
Of course idea power being something given is simplified not exact at all, in fact it may have some downfalls, as you don't literally give that power away it is more you look to someone else. In a sense no power is transferred. I am interested however to hear more about why you think so. Overall we need to cultivate that self power, if we look to others to do that we cannot do that so easily. Though yes sometimes we do need help from others to speed up the learning process etc, but I think for me the phrase, is mostly just in the context of avoiding "Dark forces", sources of confusion etc, we should not give power to these things. Even though I'm not saying that in some cases they do not help you learn too lol by giving bad experiences (or good depending on how you look at it). What I am saying is don't do deals with the devil. Using a tool even like a computer to help cultivate your own power is not a bad thing, using it to override your own good sense and judgement is probably not the best thing though what is best is something you determine yourself and varies depending on context.
The other problem is you see the inner power within yourself as "other" seperate from the self. Your deepest aspects (commonly known as higher self), are not seperate from you. Again the need to cultivate that power and look within yourself. Once you start looking at a "God" or similar you are now seperate from yourself and that is the problem. You are giving an opportunity for "outside" influences to manipulate you. (not truly outside but it is practical to regard them as so) Of course I respect whatever helps you at the current time. I am suspicious also of what new agers say, but I feel the phrase is a matter of context really. pow·er /ˈpou(ə)r/ Learn to pronounce noun noun: power; plural noun: powers 1. the ability to do something or act in a particular way, especially as a faculty or quality. "the power of speech" synonyms: ability, capacity, capability, potential, potentiality, faculty, property, competence, competency "my mother suffered a stroke and lost the power of speech" antonyms: inability, incapacity 2. the capacity or ability to direct or influence the behavior of others or the course of events. The word power alone is very controversial. lol. That is cool. others might not be as broad minded as you. they get easily convinced with this phrase... but people even know that they really have power to begin with. and this phrase make them think "A-ha! I have power. its not a good idea that i surrender it" lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 8:46:41 GMT
Nah a 5 year old human boy probs wouldn't survive (another species might), well it could maybe find a wolf mother and survive in the wild or even a chicken mother, but that it would still need some sort of guidance lol. But I would find that different from the issue as I meant of giving surrending power to something, specifically a God. Some people are more closed then others and can't see better but some have the potential to move to something better, but the belief in a God who controls their life, limits them. A child is progressing upwards, but a God is like a block in between, where they either may not grow anymore, or are limited in the ways they will grow. Btw I say God but it could be any non-physical type entity, whether it be devil who tries to make deals or a fairy who offers you some ultimate power or a goblin who causes chaos.
When I mean power for this context it is mainly the capacity to direct yourself. Which part of your life you put your energy in is also part of this self power, the freedom to choose.
So for me is closer to the first definition, it is the not being limited and stuck. Having your faculties and qualities fully there. Of course you do influence others as part of life. The people who are the most power hungry (in the bad sense) are probably the people who have least genuine inner power, although by nature humans like to control things. I don't agree with that power of attraction stuff, imagine this and that at least when it gets almost black magic like. New agers do say some good stuff too however, such as don't live in denial. And overall I think there is a hidden good message to be authentic and be careful where you put your energy. There is stuff in new age stuff that was attractive to me such as the way they would put together several religions so at one point I was into it investigating and such. Then I realised what it was thankfully.
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Post by IW on Sept 2, 2019 2:45:35 GMT
On a different note,
most people would equate the term child, become like a child etc.. to be something inadequate or immature and lacking logic, therefore needing a parent or guide. This very well fits in with religious "believing". To not trust yourself.
I believe the term to be like a child has much to do with how there are no guidelines, there is no box, there is no frame. It is an openness and freedom for anything. Most children do not see racism or division, they don't understand world troubles, what exists is what is being experienced in the moment. It is one heartbeat to the next heartbeat, having everything and nothing at the same time.
Most children are compassionate towards animals, have a love of nature, and sincerely want to be good/kind.
It is when the ego is fully developed that children as are adults, become childish, and selfish, with expectations and needy (never having enough) etc.. survival and fear become integral at that point// they have become one with the world and no longer one with themselves and their inner 'child'.
Just a few thoughts towards this great thread that I missed until now..
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Post by ML on Sept 2, 2019 3:42:36 GMT
The child's innocence is also something that is very hard to learn again. Because the nastiness of this world has already corrupted us. This world is our enemy. its a prison. being like a child is in the content of unlearning the nastiness of this world. "Giving away your power" new age phrase is a direct counter to "being like a child" of course i wont give away my power : 1. If my biological father suddenly appears when my body expires and tries to bring someplace then obviously i'd say wait a minute who tf are you really? 2. If a jesus like figure appears and wants to bring me to heaven....then i'll ask who tf are you really? real power is the truth. If you are able to give it away then its not the truth. giving away your power is being a mind controlled zombie. my take Every individual should adhere to how they understand this thing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 16:40:40 GMT
I think it is important to consider, that we all have that innocence inside us and even if life decides to make things harder for us, we can find it again if we know what and where to look. Unlearning the bad habits we gain through life is certainly important! Being like a child is a good proxy to that, but remember you yourself are not looking for an inner vulnerable injured child within yourself. Nor are you looking for something above and beyond yourself but just what is obscured. On another note, I think the most important thing to remember is to be true to yourself and connect with your deepest aspects. Be in tune with your real needs, and self-power. You can find what you need within but it is the getting to it, there are so many obstacles in the way you don't realise. But you strengthen that intent and you find ways to push through. love inside. I am still finding ways to really connect with myself and remove the trash that gets in the way.
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Post by ML on Sept 2, 2019 23:24:01 GMT
I think it is important to consider, that we all have that innocence inside us and even if life decides to make things harder for us, we can find it again if we know what and where to look. Unlearning the bad habits we gain through life is certainly important! Being like a child is a good proxy to that, but remember you yourself are not looking for an inner vulnerable injured child within yourself. Nor are you looking for something above and beyond yourself but just what is obscured. On another note, I think the most important thing to remember is to be true to yourself and connect with your deepest aspects. Be in tune with your real needs, and self-power. You can find what you need within but it is the getting to it, there are so many obstacles in the way you don't realise. But you strengthen that intent and you find ways to push through. love inside. I am still finding ways to really connect with myself and remove the trash that gets in the way. This thread has been on topic Thanks!
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Post by IW on Sept 9, 2019 2:16:02 GMT
This thread reminds me once again how short-changed we are using words and language to confer ideas. The terminology triggers so many, usually when I'm writing something I can see how it doesn't cover what I'm trying to say, but there isn't anything else to do to make it more.
Being innocent is NOT being a child, it has nothing to do with children really except they don't know, per being swiped. It is a state of being that allows all to exist freely, without being tied to any one thing rigidly. The freedom to NOT have a right or wrong, no law but only governance by self morality (not contained in this world btw).
When you don't "worry" about yourself because that self has not hardened so to speak.
I'm not so sure it's about regaining anything either, possibly more about letting go of garbage thought attachments (like so many bad habits).
I can't say that I agree that the nasty world has corrupted us as Miron hints at, rolling around in the dirt might make you dirty, but that's different than being the dirt. The spirit is not corruptible in that way, this for me is relatable to the good seed, bad seed thing, where what you are will eventually be visible (not that you changed into one or the other).
Anyhow sorry for the rambly post.
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Post by IW on Sept 11, 2019 5:13:53 GMT
Part of what I was looking for found here in the video, not sure how to explain it, but maybe you'll "see" what I mean.
Thanks Miron for your comment btw
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 18:45:29 GMT
Went through that link again. It's interesting how some of the things Doreen says are actually somewhat close to the "truth" (plz note I am not claiming any truth ha) or touches on it. Though a lot are really just pulled from those typical christian sites. There are a few examples of things that are not so wrong at all.
While it is not true they are demons as such, the garbage does a lot of pretending to be things for sure, for the purpose of misleading. Just how she missed that the Jesus who appeared in her church was also not part of the deception... Ouch. Both sides that appear to you are just same, well there is a good side but it's within you. So right here about how it is dangerous nor a source for truth. Yeah the drumming trance state is dangerous not demons again though. True that hypnosis is a harmful... though not quite from Satan I would say. Again the devil is on the same team as the so called God who tells you what to do. Yeah Reiki is harmful in the way it uses symbols for healing. Ofc I dont agree the bringing God into it stuff. Like the affirmations without god thing. Yes affirmations should not be about glorifying yourself but empowering yourself, but asking a God to do that for you is disempowering. And there is lots of other misleading stuff. The things about adding to the bible like does she not realise the bible used at least in part channeled texts. There is plenty of God preaching and being like stay away from cults while pretty much being in one lol Or the typical you are a sinner stuff. And watching Harry Potter is not bad ;P or saying omg haha Also could have gone further in condemning astrology etc (Edit : warning come to think of it there is probably harmful mind programming in the original link and even in the extracts perhaps dont look at it too long . Only for context. but since this is the typical Christian programming i'm sure some people have immunity to parts of it already. link to a practice to help connect with self )
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Post by ML on Sept 13, 2019 1:10:58 GMT
when replying to most threads. I just read the actual post and starts my thought process from there. same with this thread. moments ago i was encouraged to go to the link after Grif's last post. and WTF??? This article was written by an author that is totally ensnared She was 100% like my person in early 1990's ....a devout "Constantin bible Christian" sorry for not going to the link immediately. That is just my take on this article Thanks all
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Post by ML on Sept 13, 2019 1:19:14 GMT
I saw this. from that article.
Please let me reply on it...
That is true. but let me help in completing this. The author is also being controlled.
agree 100%
Yes
No no no no ... no prayers.
If you feel that you need to pray then you can... but
There must be no names in your thoughts. not even words. Go inside of you and feel. The kingdom is within you.
If you are talking to a God then that is already a compromised position. it is impossible to understand the truth about Jesus in this position.
"to turn away from anything that’s against your will" and salvation are two opposing thing.
again. Jesus and Amen are two opposing entities. The aether cannot resolve this thing. thus it creates stagnation. trap/prison. its a deception.
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