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Post by ML on Aug 15, 2018 8:19:43 GMT
Did LUFICER/ENKI/YALDABAOTH got INFECTED by the ARCHONS?
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DID HE CREATE/PROGRAMMED THE ARCHONS??
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Post by Henrik on Aug 15, 2018 8:33:41 GMT
I really don't know, but if it didn't create the archons, where was the first cause? Another being created the archons? Where did corruption start. At the moment I just decided to put Lucifer as the one choosing corruption and putting in place the rest of the stuff -> archons etc.
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Post by ML on Aug 15, 2018 8:41:11 GMT
That was also my original conclusion.
but since Robert Stanley wrote about Lucifer venturing into dark matter world that led to him being infected by the Archons..... i got shaken with my initial thought.
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Post by Henrik on Aug 15, 2018 9:10:04 GMT
That was also my original conclusion. but since Robert Stanley wrote about Lucifer venturing into dark matter world that led to him being infected by the Archons..... i got shaken with my initial thought. Could be both? The infection was a corruption of Enki, not by another being, but by some "natural" process in a dangerous area that led him to create the archons? Edit: To use a poor analogy, he choose to stand too long out in the sun and got his brains fried, or in this case, his heart?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 10:39:22 GMT
Lucifer was/is royalty within the angelic realm (khaa)... He had grown all his life under the wing of his mother so he didn't get a chance to really grow on his own..if the WPP are to be taken literally...then because the queen valued him as his first born she wanted whats best for him and so would probably not let him get "dirty" enough before she starts dropping some wisdom on him...basically he didn't get enough hands on experience and this left a void inside him... He got spoilt so to speak..He felt entitled because of being the queen's son... he lacked that depth that other beings at his level have because of toiling through the "fields" of evolution... so by divine law to get anywhere he had to first learn those core truths first, not through the queen "telling" him but through experience... So by divine orchestration the drama unfolded, i think that the whole situation that led to his rebellion was all secretly a divine plan to bring about something brand new to the table of soul evolution... On the surface it was the drama as we're told (i.e he wasn't made 1st in command/heir or some other reason we don't yet officially know) but underneath it was a supreme plan from source himself...
I remember wes in his videos claims the queen was complaining that evolution was going super slow..star beings were taking long to mature spiritually hence she created our experiment and others like this one...But that very desire that had developed in her was probably a hint from source of what was about to manifest...hence source even dramatized it further through Lucifer as the vehicle to bring about a dimension tough as hell but which would guarantee evolution of consciousness in a much more rapid manner but painful nevertheless (ey a tooth for a tooth you know i.e duality..law of balance)... Of course in lucifer's mind he was probably thinking of revenge and whatnot but if you look at it from source's perspective it's perfect...it's exactly what the queen desired but couldn't "see" how it'd unfold... or because of her intense compassion she couldn't see it unfolding the way it did...but source did what he had to do...
And now look where we are, we're on this forum finalizing our last moments on earth...over the countless millions of years we're mature enough to graduate...this in higher dimensional time could have taken like 1000 times longer because of how slow time and how the "creation and destruction" cycle is slower... Here infancy to adulthood is say 25 years, there it could be 5000 years...so the structures within our consciousness develop faster out of necessity "evolve or die"... So us and many like us all over the world ( and other planets/dimensions too that are under lucifer) are in the phase we're in...and many (thousands) have left in the past before us i.e jesus, buddha, juliana of norwich, nicholas of cusa, rumi, john of the cross etc etc... and still more are going to leave..
Anyway to cut the story short...It's lucifer's inner impulse to revenge against his mother/orion that led him to do whatever was needed...including creating/manipulating the archons... The archons probably existed as beings just there evolving on their own, causing havoc here and there which is understandable for a being still learning...so if they were notorious gangstars it's only reasonable to assume lucifer would see them as great accomplices... Seeing that he had more advanced knowledge than them as an Archangel it was smooth sail in manipulating them.... So i think Lucifer manipulated them... But look at it from a grander perspective.... They all attracted each other for the unfoldment of this crueler reality that was about to emerge of which we're some of the victims (but not victims really but anyway lets take it like that)...
But thanks to them we're much wiser now and in a short time....i know know it was cruel...but nevertheless it had to happen....even the taking off in air of a sparrow from a tree branch isn't random...it's according to plan.. Everything fits into everything perfectly if you look deep enough...
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Post by IW on Aug 15, 2018 21:58:56 GMT
...i know know it was cruel...but nevertheless it had to happen...
Total bogus poop. Stockholm syndrome talking that we needed this and that this "had" to happen.
Sorry if this sounds rude, but not sorry that it stinks like poo.
You have free choice to go and pat the architects on the back or thank the goddess for making a fast track. Nuff said bout that.
It doesn't matter, because we are stuck in matter and this post as ninurta4 post keeps the whole oscillation going. Evolution was going too slow says the queen? Got to speed it up? More oscillation or less either way they don't care (both keeps the system going).
thanks to them we are much wiser...it's according to plan..
really? I say there wasn't supposed to be a plan, that the original plan was "no plan".
am I not going deep enough then? time out for me and into the corner I go.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 22:14:54 GMT
Once again I remind folks that everything we talk about is myth based. Yes I have said it before but never has anyone who studies the unseeable really ever proven anything impressive to my eyes. I have never seen anyone walk on water, part the seas or move a mountain. Sure there are strange and wonderful things to study and ponder but I for one will refrain from this moment on from saying "this is how it is" or "that was how it was" We are just a bunch of kiddies in the sandbox compared to what is beyond.
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Post by girlscout on Aug 15, 2018 22:27:29 GMT
There's also the Sophia myth that hints that the archons (and their narcissistic ways) were an accident when Sophia was so enamored with her creation she wanted to be NEAR it.
There are theories abounding that Sophia is attempting to make a correction to this accident "as we speak".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 22:36:14 GMT
One could equate Sophia with the mother spirit, or flame from the mother spirit. I wish though there was a consistent history left for us. If anything my eyes have seen what seemed to be more dark than anything of beauty. In the end we all just left guessin some
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Post by duckie on Aug 16, 2018 0:05:30 GMT
"Total bogus poop" I'm going to have to use that in my next meeting.
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Post by ML on Aug 16, 2018 0:22:26 GMT
Once again I remind folks that everything we talk about is myth based. Yes I have said it before but never has anyone who studies the unseeable really ever proven anything impressive to my eyes. I have never seen anyone walk on water, part the seas or move a mountain. Sure there are strange and wonderful things to study and ponder but I for one will refrain from this moment on from saying "this is how it is" or "that was how it was" We are just a bunch of kiddies in the sandbox compared to what is beyond. Point taken Myka. Just for clarity and ease of communication. The early meaning of THE WORD MYTH is/was HISTORICAL FACT...
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Post by ML on Aug 16, 2018 2:25:29 GMT
Robert Stanley on Enki's infection?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 2:38:44 GMT
Once again I remind folks that everything we talk about is myth based. Yes I have said it before but never has anyone who studies the unseeable really ever proven anything impressive to my eyes. I have never seen anyone walk on water, part the seas or move a mountain. Sure there are strange and wonderful things to study and ponder but I for one will refrain from this moment on from saying "this is how it is" or "that was how it was" We are just a bunch of kiddies in the sandbox compared to what is beyond. Point taken Myka. Just for clarity and ease of communication. The early meaning of THE WORD MYTH is/was HISTORICAL FACT... Definition of myth 1 a : a usually traditional story of ostensibly historical events that serves to unfold part of the world view of a people or explain a practice, belief, or natural phenomenon creation myths b : parable, allegory Moral responsibility is the motif of Plato's myths. 2 a : a popular belief or tradition that has grown up around something or someone; especially : one embodying the ideals and institutions of a society or segment of society seduced by the American myth of individualism —Orde Coombs the utopian myth of a perfect society b : an unfounded or false notion the myth of racial superiority 3 : a person or thing having only an imaginary or unverifiable existence the Superman myth The unicorn is a myth. 4 : the whole body of myths a student of Greek myth
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Post by ML on Aug 16, 2018 5:14:52 GMT
I was not able to save it. I read somewhere that sometime in the early ages.. the meaning of the word MYTH was 'changed'.
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If we think about this.. It was a very effective suppression technique.
They dont have to go and delete everything that was written as 'history' by changing the meaning of the word myth. They effectively destroyed the whole history that was written at the time.
case : If the word 'HISTORY' would be slowly changed starting today to mean 'Imaginary events that did not happened in 3d'
...in 100 to 200 years what we know today as factual history would be considered as 'Imaginary events that did not happened in 3d'
My take, Thanks
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Post by IW on Aug 16, 2018 5:37:44 GMT
From what I remember, the meaning is similar to what Miron said.
At some point historical events began being called myth. Lots of indigenous or native cultures did not have written history. It was a verbal passing on of events, sometimes using a story for better retention.
Younger generations, separating themselves from the native culture, did not want old history holding them back. They changed their beliefs to match current times. At this point possibly the history became just "myth".
That's my take anyhow. Thanks.
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Post by Barbara on Aug 16, 2018 6:31:27 GMT
To my way of thinking, historical events are turned into myths. Case in point, historical character Enki (geneticist) akin to the likes of any geneticist around today (perhaps higher functioning, due to not being (as) genetically modified / degraded) is given godlike status (he may or may not have posed as a god during his incarnation, given the end times games and other 'total bogus poop'). Yaldoboath is to my thinking a name given to illusory thought forms that have become progressively more and more problematical for humanity (read Philip Goddard's hypothetical working model True Nature of 'The Forces of Darkness' and its interference and attacks). The 'Lucifer complex' appears to be facilitating a reenactement of the game / has inserted 'itself' into the game (hard to tell which). They could themselves have become 'garbage' infected (something along the lines of Devapriya saying 'The Divine Mother is holding the space in the light / Lucifer went too far down the dark path) or it could just appear that way. Anyway more story to add to the story No doubt the 'garbage' will spit out a distorted version at some stage.
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Post by duckie on Aug 16, 2018 23:46:33 GMT
Robert Stanley on Enki's infection?
Interesting! Avalon said the same thing!
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Post by Barbara on Aug 17, 2018 6:27:57 GMT
To my way of thinking, historical events are turned into myths. Case in point, historical character Enki (geneticist) akin to the likes of any geneticist around today (perhaps higher functioning, due to not being (as) genetically modified / degraded) is given godlike status (he may or may not have posed as a god during his incarnation, given the end times games and other 'total bogus poop'). Yaldoboath is to my thinking a name given to illusory thought forms that have become progressively more and more problematical for humanity (read Philip Goddard's hypothetical working model The True Nature of 'The Forces of Darkness' and Its Interference and Attacks. The 'Lucifer complex' appears to be facilitating a reenactement of the game / has inserted 'itself' into the game (hard to tell which). They could themselves have become 'garbage' infected (something along the lines of Devapriya saying 'The Divine Mother is holding the space in the light / Lucifer went too far down the dark path) or it could just appear that way. Anyway more story to add to the story No doubt the 'garbage' will spit out a distorted version at some stage. Sorry, re-posting to fix link. Hopefully it works now.
(From experience, the best way to navigate this site is to bypass the clickable index and go straight to the text... if you get lost use the Site Map. Also, you can find yourself in his other site, which can be confusing).
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